Well as we all wait for this new Patch for ARR I see that we will be able to spam Coil 1-5 and also getting new gear and get Echo Buff of some sort . We tend to over look what has been happening to the game I have played in 1.0 the first day of it coming out when tanaka I have seen alot of pro's and con's when tanaka was running things . I do not think he had the vision of having content completed primary in Instance. With Yoshida we have lost a lot in this game with tanaka we did have some sort open world content and yes you can say they came after yoshida took over but fact is yoshida in 1.0 was working off of tanaka game plan all he did was lessen the latency and add some decent content at the time but now all we do is instance everything now we can get to the meat of the topic
Few days ago instance servers went down and the world was at a stand still because of 90k yes they did a maint. fine and dandy but we were left to just either log off and or play other games . Many High level FC's have either had members leave due to the fact we are never going to get off this ride . I'm Not the best writer in this game hell if you read above i have run on sentences and other grammar issues but that does not escape the fact that we are tired of going into an instance every day in and out .
grind WP for myth waiting on a game we can be excited about . The Patch by my guessing should be out March 22nd (Speculation) and hoping an Expansion on the year aniversary of ARR . The only thing that would make this game better to play would be more open world content because with all this instance model is not working for those who have come from 11 in the new wave of subs that are wanting something more. not saying i want 21-24hr spawn times etc but give us something to compete over give meaning to being an Free Company . All that an FC is to me is a way of buying a house in game .
To devs
HNMs dont have to be on insane timers
Bring back
Tiamat,Fafnir,Nidhogg,Jorm,Vrtra
AND THE BIGGEST REQUEST I HAVE BEEN HEARING AROUND TOWN !!
Bring back content like Sky and or SEA to ARR the monsters dont have to drop gear they can drop crafting items .
Crafting please make this worth while with HNM's give them mats that they can then craft into armor or other items in the game . Make crafting something other then another class you level (I know there is this plan to get craft up to 100 and specialize but make it worth something .
Boost the Economy Community Content with Common sense
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03-04-2014, 01:13 AMAmageWhen Instance Servers Go Down [Dev]
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03-04-2014, 01:45 AMDoki
The can't bring back content that never existed in the game >_>
They've already said they plan to add that sort of content in an expansion eventually though, just like it was expansion content in 11. -
03-04-2014, 01:47 AMSkies
Goddamt, now instead of seeing the instance servers going down you want the main server going down instead?!
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03-04-2014, 03:13 AMQuiz
Its almost like you completely forgot stone vigil
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03-04-2014, 05:12 AMWHS
I'm not sure how to say this but here goes. I am tired of instance mostly content. Tired enough to leave? not yet but getting there. I don't know what to suggest at this point but it is pretty boring to just have instance servers of content only. I'll bide my time for now and see how things go. Something needs to change for the better and adding more instance content is not the answer for me. Maybe others will be fine and that's ok. Just not me.
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03-04-2014, 05:29 AMNekodar
Nidhogg has already been referenced in some questlines, so that one is likely to show up eventually.
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03-04-2014, 06:12 AMRhasYou do realize that those expansions happened over time and not until the game was out in the US for... how many years?... before they pieced it together to what it is now. Those places developed... over time... *oh no! he's trying to make sense!* Even when the expansions first released, those places didn't get fleshed out immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amage
How long exactly has 2.0 been out now? Give the game 3-5 years... like with the content you are talking about... just like we had to wait in XI. There is no instant gratification as content actually takes time to develop. -
03-04-2014, 06:28 AMRhashttp://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...49#post1910149Quote:
Originally Posted by WHS
Looking at the idea being suggested, a fun way to get users to explore the world more without the use of Aether travel, I just wanted to say that we are looking into more content focused on getting players out and about.
You can imagine that Treasure Maps were created as the first idea in this vein and we're currently thinking about how to expand on that idea!
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From the sound of things, they are looking at more open world content. -
03-04-2014, 06:30 AMMarishi-TenYoshi had nothing to do with 1.0-1.23b. He may have added some (extremely) minor content ideas, but the dev roadmap was already in place for that year. When the fiscal year resets, the devs have to submit their roadmap of what they want to do, when the wanna do it, when they think they will have it complete, and how much it costs. Once the roadmap is approved it's then locked into place for the year. From there, the devs then break their workload into quarters and order them on a scale. They then assign team members (they have the man hours already planned) to perform the functions (this is called the SPRINT cycle) with weekly check ins to ensure you are up to goal or ask for assistance if they are lagging behind. Yoshi joined in the middle of the roadmap. He had very little he could do/say to alter 1.0. Everything up to 1.23b was Tanaka's vision being implemented.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amage
Gotta give credit where credit is due.
I sincerely hope they listen, but I'm not banking on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amage
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03-04-2014, 07:50 AMAmageI have been playing Since Release of this game Not ARR 1.0 matter a fact i been playing since beta I am not beating the door down nor demanding anything just stating that this game would be gone if this does not changeQuote:
Originally Posted by Rhas
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03-04-2014, 09:38 AMNoahlimitsYou're basing that the game will be gone if your problems aren't changed... off of what? Because a few of your FC members are leaving the game? I think you over value what effect a few people you know leaving the game will have.Quote:
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03-04-2014, 09:55 AMAmagei MEAN MANY FC'S well those who arent large like bg etc etc . People are tired of spamming the same content over and over and the new content is more of the same .Quote:
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Ask Yourself this if your Inn had a market board and you already have duty finder beside questing that you and your FC can do ?
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03-04-2014, 10:00 AMSarcasmMisser
And those people want the content you are suggesting? How about you show some evidence.
Here's SEs evidence to the contrary: 1.0 was an unparalleled flop in sales while ARR managed to earn them an operating profit last quarter. Legacy players making a chorus of forum posts is not a convincing rebuttal. Face it most mmo players are fine with the formula ARR follows. -
03-04-2014, 10:24 AMTears-of-Death
1.0 players are in the minority. Who cares what you did years ago is just like an elderly person talking about how they had to walk to school in a foot of snow. Nobody cares except for those who did it and think we should all be subjected to bad game design to appease the people who are still bored.
If you want what the game originally had then perhaps you should have had more friends play it in 1.0. Now just deal with it and cry less.
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03-04-2014, 01:55 PMAmageReally this is why this gaming community is trash . I never said because i played the game 1.0 that i want this to be 11 or not . What I am Saying is that we as a whole would be better off with open world content. If you want to continue and spam ak wp HM CT Coil everyday fine go ahead you pay your 9.99 like i do . Also to your comment .Its not 1.0 or players of FFXI saying this content is and will be a benefit its also people who dont want to feel like they are just another grunt going through the motionQuote:
Originally Posted by Tears-of-Death
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03-04-2014, 01:56 PMAmageAnd 1.0 was a flop because the game had like no money for advertisements . So those of you who play this now should be greatful that the 1.0ers paid for this game and supported it so not 1.8 million people can playQuote:
Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser
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03-04-2014, 02:19 PMLuso
I liked how there were open world dungeons back in XI. Running into other parties out there farming or leveling up.
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03-04-2014, 03:00 PMSarcasmMisser
Haha yeah clearly the problem with 1.0 was the lack of ads, all those articles about it back on gaming sites at launch was a dream.
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03-05-2014, 12:09 AMTupsiExisted in 1.x.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doki
Wait what? Stone Vigil has legendary Wyrms that not only drop end-game loot but also required 18+ people to kill initially? Where is this Stone Vigil?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quiz
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03-05-2014, 01:20 AMAmageWell You Did say Sales correct and me working retail if you don't put ads you wont get "Sales" Now what your talking about is the world in 1.0 was not the best but it was something where you had to try in leveling parties to get xp you had to do BR to include your party what do you do now Combo with your self that's like Yoshida handing you a box of tissues and a bottle of lotion and saying here you go patch .Quote:
Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser
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03-05-2014, 09:06 AMAmage
Keep it alive
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03-05-2014, 09:37 AMQuizHe said implied jormy wasnt in the game. Final boss of stone vigil!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupsi
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03-05-2014, 11:27 AMAutymnfyres------------------Quote:
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Truly, thank you Skies...I raspberried - out my soda when I read your quip. So damn funny ^-^! -
03-05-2014, 11:32 AMAutymnfyresYup.>>>>>>>>>>Quote:
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What exactly has been happening since the first release of FFXIV? Did they do that release, identify the challenges needed/plan of attack to get going on and the.... STOP? Pretty sure the interim of time from then to now is...
...a couple of years. Yea.
Quit asking for instant gratification ya bunch of wretches...give it about four more years and come back and check it out once you have children and wanna show the little ones a grand ole time. Be reasonable. Don't ask for everything to be done NOW. -
03-05-2014, 03:33 PMRhasNo, it was a flop because it just wasn't finished on release, nor did it really start getting more than a finished type feel until after they started charging money again about a year later.Quote:
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The only thing there was to do in 1.0 at launch was.. grinding. Nothing but grinding. No real quests, limited story. In essence, it was just plain boring. It was released more as an "alpha" state where you didn't even have any meaningful gameplay. Not because they couldn't advertise. -
03-05-2014, 03:42 PMRhasIf they kept the same game engine they could have had plenty more by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autymnfyres
But, they chose to pretty much start from scratch again meaning 2.0 is in a similar state as when 1.0 launched. They didn't even get all of the 1.0 converted into 2.0 as it was which is why it will take time as of 2.0 launch. Everything from 1.0 is gone, pretty much recreated from scratch. You can't even count the 1.0 time since its not the same game engine. 2.0, the basis for the current game start has been out for months. Not 2+ years. -
03-05-2014, 03:51 PMRicky
If you want 11 play 11, this game is going to be a gear treadmill where your effort resets every 6 months instead of every expansion
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03-05-2014, 10:57 PMAutymnfyres
WHEN did they 'throw' out the 1.0...and start on the 2.0? Did they occupy themselves with other parts of the business and just let 1.0 sit there for say, 18 months and then start on 2.0 like maybe three, four months ago?
So unlikely.
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03-06-2014, 10:07 PMRhasIt may be unlikely but its true. 2.0 only happened because of the the staff changes and Yoshi took over (after there last roadmap ended and they were free to do so), You may have not been there but as soon as yoshi was in place, he sent out that long survey on what to do with the game. Yoshi rebuilt the game from scratch due to the survey information at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Autymnfyres
2.0 production didn't even come into being until later than December after 1.0 was released.
betas
1.0 Game Release
Game falls flat on its face
Tanaka steps down
Yoshi takes over
game goes free until they "fix it"
yoshi send out questionnaire trying to decide what to do with the game
december/january hit and results are tallied
2.0 decided and starts planning phase in side by side development of 1.0
content that was already roadmapped from 1.0 (tanakas era and set in stone) starts taking shape
quests implemented
other stuff added
end of the next year starts charging once again
2.0 concept art starts showing up
more things added/changed
dalamud falling starts taking place setting up for 2.0
end of the era
game goes down
2.0 starts being fully developed now that 1.0 content is no longer relevant
time passes
betas
2.0 released.
All in all they rebuilt the game in a couple short years and had nowhere the time invested as in the original 1.0. If you mean 2.0's development as about 2 or so years as a long while, then I can agree with you. But I don't personally consider about 2-3 years to reconvert a game into a new game engine a long time heheh -
03-06-2014, 10:22 PMAlkimi
While I still believe that open world HNMs can stay in XI where they belong, I wouldn't mind something similar to the ZNM series that existed in XI's ToAU expansion. It would be something to get players back into the open world.
For those unfamiliar you would farm up a certain number of Zeni (in XIV's case it could just be tomestones or something) and then buy a pop item from an NPC which you could then use to pop a notorious monster in a specific location. Once you had defeated three certain Tier 1 NMs you would trade the 3 items you got from them for a Tier 2 pop item and so on, all the way up to Tier 5 which was Pandemonium Warden. It did require a certain amount of NM grinding (especially to get T4 or T5 pop items). T1 could generally be soloed by certain jobs, T2 required 2-3 people, T3 a full party, T4 a full alliance and T5 needed entire linkshells (in it's original form anyway).
I just think something like this would make the world feel more alive, with players fighting tough NMs out in the open world for people to see. FATEs don't really achieve this. SE have said they are looking into more open world content but I guess we'll see what they bring. -
03-07-2014, 12:22 AMAmage
I'm not demanding anything I was just saying thing to add to the game other then the same instance battle . were getting Leviathan this patch going to be same stuff we done before but with water . and then coil 6-10 same stuff get locked out if your friends are on t6 you cant help them they have to suffer with pugs
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03-16-2014, 10:28 AMAmage
keep it alive