Quick question about accuracy requirements.

Specifically I'm talking about warrior, but if its different for paladin it would be nice to know. For each turn of coil, how much accuracy do we need as a tank? My google-fu has failed me and i cannot find a concrete answer. Any info is greatly appreciated.

472 for T1
476 for T2
480 for T4
483 for T5
iirc.

This is basically for 100% hits. it is doable with less but this i what most parties require/recommend.

Taking this off the DRG compendium so I can't promise verified or not.. but considering you would be a tank, I would simply guess all you need to worry about is frontal cap.
Required ACC is:
Flank = 458
Rear = 435
Front = 476+

Thanks guys, this helps a lot.

huh, dont think there is a change in frontal/rear/flank accuracy. dodge is flat stat that is applied to a monster. dont know how this would be divided into 3 different catgories based on position.

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

huh, dont think there is a change in frontal/rear/flank accuracy.

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You're wrong. Test it yourself if you want.

Hit a level 50 training dummy from the front with 341 accuracy. You will miss eventually. Hit it from the side/rear and you won't miss.

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

huh, dont think there is a change in frontal/rear/flank accuracy. dodge is flat stat that is applied to a monster. dont know how this would be divided into 3 different catgories based on position.

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I think the positional accuracy is rather plausible thou. We tried dropping our accuracy casually and our tanks reported far more misses than other melee DDs (they were other RoH was a miss or so) and somehow seems to point that since tanks are front facing, they really need some 482 accuracy for T5.

Meanwhile as a Bard, there were times I accidentally forgot to swap my Elfin Bow to Artemis Zenith and stuff and I ran T1-T4 with 416-45X accuracy before, doesn't seem to cause me misses either.

So these days I just clear T1-T5 with about 45X-46X accuracy or so.

For easy and no serious about accuracy

Lowest accuracy you should have is 470-475

If you want the best of best, want to hit everything perfect, enmity problems (due to miss and lose combo)

You will need 483 - 485

But I will tell you this, I win twintania many times, nothing out of control with my accuracy 473, I may miss but not miss like blinded, in the end is that matter, I win

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Originally Posted by Altimis

But I will tell you this, I win twintania many times, nothing out of control with my accuracy 473, I may miss but not miss like blinded, in the end is that matter, I win

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Tank thread.
OP is a WARRIOR main.

They do NOT want Inner Beast to miss on Twintania or the snakes.
=~482 Accuracy for T5, no exceptions.

A PLD can get by on less, Warrior needs to be capped always otherwise their damage mitigation suffers.

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Originally Posted by Instrumentality

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And how long did you test this theory? 100 hits? some people can go thousands of hits with below average accuracy and never miss a shot. Some confirmation from SE would be needed because as far as I am aware position does nothing to affect dodge rate. And why would it? accuracy requirements should be shared across all classes. And the dodge rate does not state Front = X, Side = X, Rear = X. Any game ive ever played uses dodge rates from any angle. It certainly is plausible but i just dont see the logic in it.

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

And how long did you test this theory? 100 hits? some people can go thousands of hits with below average accuracy and never miss a shot. Some confirmation from SE would be needed because as far as I am aware position does nothing to affect dodge rate. And why would it? accuracy requirements should be shared across all classes. And the dodge rate does not state Front = X, Side = X, Rear = X. Any game ive ever played uses dodge rates from any angle. It certainly is plausible but i just dont see the logic in it.

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This has been tested and confirmed by a multitude of people. Go search the dragoon rotation reborn thread, there are dozens of pages discussing the matter.
Although tbf this doesnt really belong here in the tank section, as you are always going to attack from the front anyhow.

475 for turn 1-4, 484 for turn 5. No accuracy outside of Coil. Dual Haken is a lovely thing till you get the Allagan Axe. Get it.

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Originally Posted by ChaozK

This has been tested and confirmed by a multitude of people. Go search the dragoon rotation reborn thread, there are dozens of pages discussing the matter.
Although tbf this doesnt really belong here in the tank section, as you are always going to attack from the front anyhow.

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Agreed. On Twintania when I go on my MNK alt I never miss with 460 acc, except front facing a snake (cause of movement or tank turning). There is definitely solid confirmation going around that positional accuracy is at play.

Warrior should be around the low to mid 480s as people are saying though.

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Originally Posted by Maelwys

Tank thread.
OP is a WARRIOR main.

They do NOT want Inner Beast to miss on Twintania or the snakes.
=~482 Accuracy for T5, no exceptions.

A PLD can get by on less, Warrior needs to be capped always otherwise their damage mitigation suffers.

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Well, I said If you want everything to be hit perfectly, you will need 483-485 as I said in my post you quoted cutted.

I think I answered OP for question he asking

Maybe you need accuracy 500 to read my entire post? (xD this one is kidding, no serious)

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Originally Posted by Traek

Agreed. On Twintania when I go on my MNK alt I never miss with 460 acc, except front facing a snake (cause of movement or tank turning). There is definitely solid confirmation going around that positional accuracy is at play.

Warrior should be around the low to mid 480s as people are saying though.

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Without straying too OT, I think positional accuracy is relevant throughout the entire game. I've noticed the trend while working on lower level classes, have misses when solo (front facing) but not during fates and dungeons (from rear/flank). Just my own experience since I started paying more attention.

for T5, try to get 475-483, even if you go as OT. (you never when MT gonna get 1 shot by twin DS combo, best to be prepare lol)

Just something i threw together int he spur of the moment, but it does meet the acc requirements listed, and its all pre-T5 loot for those who havent cleared it yet (myself included) http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LW42

You can hit 485 accuracy without a single piece of loot from Coil as I show here: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/LW48 The only requirements is the Dual Haken from EX primals.

if you have gil to spare, buy HQ stuffed cabbage, it will boost 20 acc easy

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

475 for turn 1-4, 484 for turn 5. No accuracy outside of Coil. Dual Haken is a lovely thing till you get the Allagan Axe. Get it.

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That's the plan.

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

And how long did you test this theory? 100 hits? some people can go thousands of hits with below average accuracy and never miss a shot. Some confirmation from SE would be needed because as far as I am aware position does nothing to affect dodge rate. And why would it? accuracy requirements should be shared across all classes. And the dodge rate does not state Front = X, Side = X, Rear = X. Any game ive ever played uses dodge rates from any angle. It certainly is plausible but i just dont see the logic in it.

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You could do a million billion hits crom the rear of a level 50 training dummy with 341 accuracy from the rear. Do the same from the front with 341 accuracy and you will miss hits. There are multitudes of people in the dps subforum and posting here in the tank forum confirming it.