Why not unlock myth and BC now?

It would give people a reason to login for more then 2 hours on monday night. It's not like theres any content left to hold back. Just let us prep third and fourth jobs for 2.2. Please

It's my Mythology and I need it now!

I was actually thinking the same thing, if it were up to me I'd have unlocked it in 2.16 to get people geared and hyped up for the next four turns of coil (and maybe that way I could finally get some coil drops - I've only ever seen boots (which I don't need) and a belt)

so once the world first for turns 6-9 happen we should just unlock all content cause it's pointless? that's not how it works once new content comes out the old is unlocked.

No mr hyperbole, but bc hasn't been new content for many months. there is so little to do, if they want to keep people interested for another month+ they need to give us something to work on besides undercutting the market board to hell and back.

And they are going to give it in a month. You clearly show no interest about basics on both the game's mechanics and development. You just want your shiny things, right now! The rest doesn't matter!

Not now, just because you copypasted the same babbling that other people on their moments of tears do. It's like, really the same old things. Think of your own at least.

Oh wait.

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Originally Posted by Lance_Uppercut

It's my Mythology and I need it now!

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It's your mythology, use it when you need it.

You talk as if this gear would just drop into our laps for free, all I want is to be able to work for something on my char more then one day a week. The entire point of content lockout is to extend the lifetime of the game between patches. Its job has been done, new patch is coming, theres no reason to hold out at this point.

Sure, that's why they will unlock content when patch is released ? We're talking about 3 weeks here... If you have mastered everything, there is no need right now for you to gear alt classes you won't play for new top content in 3 weeks.

Just unsub until April when it comes out. It's what I did. Why bother with lockouts and caps now when in a month I can just farm it all.

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Originally Posted by Red_Panda

It would give people a reason to login for more then 2 hours on monday night. It's not like theres any content left to hold back. Just let us prep third and fourth jobs for 2.2. Please

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Coil 6-9 is still not ingame

TBH this is the problem with announcing the removal of caps and lock-outs at all, it just makes the stagnation before the patch even more acute as people see little point to cap out every week and then threads like this are made.

It would be nice to be able to spam Coil 1-5 and myth over the next couple weeks to get various alt jobs up to i90 as something to do before 2.2 hits. Once 2.2 hits, there will be much more content than Coil 1-5 and Myth, so it won't matter. Currently there's nothing to do, and post patch there will be plenty to do regardless of it they'd uncapped myth in 2.16.

Why not just echo buff all the content, give everyone 50 in all classes and crafts, go ahead and just award everyone all achievements, give you 10 retainers, put 5 million gil in everyones pocket, and award every FC a full furnished house just for being an FC while we are at it.

i can see and agree with what the OP is saying.

it wouldnt damage the current state of the game to unlock myths, as the gear will be inferior in 30 days. why not let us get a head start on gearing up our ALT's that arent yet geared. personally i just started working on my 5th full I90 class, and all classes are Ilevel80+.... really wouldnt hurt anything to unlock at this point.

Lol I would be happy if they just unlocked vanity now. That would give me something to do

Clearly at this point they are pushing all possible content (new and old) to end of March, closer to ESO's official release. So that you are more likely to play here than play there.

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Originally Posted by Senfei

Why not just echo buff all the content, give everyone 50 in all classes and crafts, go ahead and just award everyone all achievements, give you 10 retainers, put 5 million gil in everyones pocket, and award every FC a full furnished house just for being an FC while we are at it.

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Wanting to do Coil more than once a week, since there's nothing else left to do pre-2.2, is totally exactly like that. Perfect analogy.

I understand why they didn't unlock myth/coil before 2.2, what I don't understand is why they left the loot lockout on CT and didn't remove that in 2.16. Once 2.2 is released, no one is going to touch Labyrinth anymore anyways. And it would have given people something to do before the update while keeping i90 gear locked until 2.2.

Oh well, another nonsensical decision by SE keeping i80 gear locked when i90 will be unlocked in less than a month.

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Originally Posted by DMooseJ

It's your mythology, use it when you need it.

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if you have locked up myth tomes but you need loot now??

They generally cannot just "unlock" features from an upcoming patch early. Software development doesn't really work that way, not for a project as big as an MMO.

I mean, sure they could do it, but it would not be a quick snap-their-fingers kinda thing. It'd take some amount of time and effort, which would be much better spent working on actual content for the new patch.

Why not just release 2.2 right now? Hell lets cut to the chase and just release 2.3 since people are going to rush through the 2.2 content a week after it's out anyway.

Unlike the topic, which is actually a reasonable question.

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Originally Posted by PlanckZero

Why not just release 2.2 right now? Hell lets cut to the chase and just release 2.3 since people are going to rush through the 2.2 content a week after it's out anyway.

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Do you have any more terrible suggestions? If so I would like to hear them.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

what I don't understand is why they left the loot lockout on CT and didn't remove that in 2.16. Once 2.2 is released, no one is going to touch Labyrinth anymore anyways.

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This is something that I think will have to happen with the release of patch 2.2. Why would anyone run an raid to get 1 piece of ilvl 80 gear per week when they can run an raid to get unlimited ilvl 90 gear per week? I mean, sure people will still need to gear up for coil, but really what percentage of the player base is that? Now, I am fine with waiting till the end of the month for the patch, however once that hits, SE basically makes CT worthless.

I don't think coil will be unlimited drops i think you'll be able to get loot in each turn like CT, once a week. It sounds like they are allowing us to farm for that 1drop instead of fighting that RNG. Unless i am totes wrong, but I've not seen anything to state otherwise.

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Originally Posted by ErnestoGiovanni

I don't think coil will be unlimited drops i think you'll be able to get loot in each turn like CT, once a week. It sounds like they are allowing us to farm for that 1drop instead of fighting that RNG. Unless i am totes wrong, but I've not seen anything to state otherwise.

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Totes wrong.

I do not think it has been stated anywhere that coil 1-5 drops are going to be unlimited. I think they are going to be a 1 per week lock out just like CT for each turn. So you can farm each Turn for the piece of gear you need which in turn will help you gear faster if you can find competent parties.

No I think you will be able to loot on everything in coil with no restriction, dont need to wait a week. With no cap of myth, there doesnt need to be any lockout on coil 1-5 either. They are helping everyone catch up with any i90 they don't have yet, because i100+ is coming to be the new thing to work for.

Well at least it's only 3 more weeks of suffering, there's also going to be new myth crafting mats so everyone would just stockpile myth beforehand and crash the markets even faster than they already are the instant 2.2 hits, if people aren't already saving their myth for that.

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Originally Posted by Mikedizzy

I do not think it has been stated anywhere that coil 1-5 drops are going to be unlimited. I think they are going to be a 1 per week lock out just like CT for each turn. So you can farm each Turn for the piece of gear you need which in turn will help you gear faster if you can find competent parties.

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No, read the Q&A again, it's full unlock:

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Q: Will the difficulty of turns 1-5 be eased? And will the weekly lockout be removed?
A: Since we’ll be adding the second installment of the Binding Coil of Bahamut, which exceeds the difficulty of the first installment, we'll be removing all the limitations on the first five turns of the Binding Coil. The weekly limitation will also be removed, so you can take on the first five turns as often as you like

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And in another separate Japanese interview, it is also confirmed that myth tomes weekly cap will also be unlocked. Basically all i90 related content will relegate to Darklight status because they will raise the new item level cap with new set of BC loots, Leviathan weapon and new tomestones.

I literally laughed out loud when I read this.

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Originally Posted by Lance_Uppercut

It's my Mythology and I need it now!

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

And in another separate Japanese interview, it is also confirmed that myth tomes weekly cap will also be unlocked. Basically all i90 related content will relegate to Darklight status because they will raise the new item level cap with new set of BC loots, Leviathan weapon and new tomestones.

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Not likely, as much as you like to read into it. Every single pre-90 dungeon would be fully obsoleted for all purposes except LotA. They would completely destroy all uses of WP, PS, CBHM, and HMHM -- all of them would never be run at all for any reason. AK and HM primals would be run-once for relic quests. Gearing in i90 would take a weekend, and all content in between would be rot.

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Originally Posted by Gamemako

Not likely, as much as you like to read into it. Every single pre-90 dungeon would be fully obsoleted for all purposes except LotA. They would completely destroy all uses of WP, PS, CBHM, and HMHM -- all of them would never be run at all for any reason. AK and HM primals would be run-once for relic quests. Gearing in i90 would take a weekend, and all content in between would be rot.

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Please remind me how LotA will be useful at all? Also, yes, every single dungeon before it will only be useful for vanity.

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Originally Posted by Mikara

Please remind me how LotA will be useful at all? Also, yes, every single dungeon before it will only be useful for vanity.

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I can't think of any dungeon gear that I would want for vanity outside coil/ct >.>; a good majority of it looks pretty lame :"/

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Originally Posted by Mardel

I can't think of any dungeon gear that I would want for vanity outside coil/ct >.>; a good majority of it looks pretty lame :"/

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Actually the noble glasses look pretty cool for bard. Just saying. =P

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Originally Posted by Mikara

Please remind me how LotA will be useful at all? Also, yes, every single dungeon before it will only be useful for vanity.

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Fresh 50 to BCT1-5 progression. As soon as you hit 50, you hop into CT, then a Saturday later, you're ready for BC.

Or, you gear yourself in DL gear, and jump straight into farming T1 (and T2 if lolenrage is still around)for allagan / myth. By the time you have good enough gear you can jump straight to T4/T5 which means you have complete circumvented any reason into stepping into the hell that is currently LotA.

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Or, you gear yourself in DL gear

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Farming the tomes for Darklight takes much longer than gearing in superior and quicker CT gear and filling out the holes with the tomes you got from CT. I get that you hate CT and all, but it just doesn't make sense do something that gives you just tomes when you could do something that gives you tomes and free superior gear.

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Originally Posted by Gamemako

Farming the tomes for Darklight takes much longer than gearing in superior and quicker CT gear and filling out the holes with the tomes you got from CT. I get that you hate CT and all, but it just doesn't make sense do something that gives you just tomes when you could do something that gives you tomes and free superior gear.

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Except they haven't said anything about removing the lockout on LotA yet (and if they have, I completely missed it). Meaning sure, you can still get 1 free piece a week, but honestly it's still quicker to just pass up LotA entirely.

Also, why bother even running coil/ct to gear up. You can just buy crafted i90 come 2.2 w/o having to run a single dungeon XD