RMT auto suspspension idea

We been talking on vent and I thought of this crazy idea...

What if you make a script that if say 400 people blacklist an individual they get a 3 day ban pending investigation. This is just a generic number so that its not abused. It could be 700-100 so that some FC just dont get pissed at someone who left and decide to be spiteful... Just an idea to cut down on the tells we see regularly.

Easily exploitable.

"HEY GUYS, BLACK LIST MAID MARIAN JUST BECAUSE LOL"

If I had to choose between getting some RMT tells and having easily exploitable sweeping nets from the developers that could very easily take away legitimate players ability to log in, I'd rather have the RMT tells.

SE should just limit the amount of people you can /tell in an hour. RMT works by sending /tells in mass numbers, normal players don't do that.

What I'd really like is a right click -> "report for RMT" option. I'm glad they made it easy to black list the RMTers but it still takes a while to report them and if you've gotten four in a row it can take a good while to fill out the form.

Edti: ^ Sometimes I'll have entire conversations in /tells so I'm not sure that would be the best idea.

well how about come up with an idea to make it so its not exploitable so the teams can take their time to work on other things like expansions, current bugs etc

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Originally Posted by dcdistro

well how about come up with an idea to make it so its not exploitable so the teams can take their time to work on other things like expansions, current bugs etc

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If such a way existed, it would have been found in other MMOs by now. You will never be 100% rid of RMT, without removing player trading/economy and such. And the harsher you try to crack down, the more innocents get hit.

Even in EVE where you can buy in game currency completely legit(sort of, not directly), there is still RMT.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Easily exploitable.

"HEY GUYS, BLACK LIST MAID MARIAN JUST BECAUSE LOL"

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would 700-1000 people actually do that though?

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Originally Posted by Gramul

would 700-1000 people actually do that though?

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I have a feeling that the person who shouted "Let's black list so and so just because lol" would be the one to get blacklisted. And even then… I highly doubt it would be enough to trigger the suggested script.

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Originally Posted by dcdistro

We been talking on vent and I thought of this crazy idea...

What if you make a script that if say 400 people blacklist an individual they get a 3 day ban pending investigation. This is just a generic number so that its not abused. It could be 700-100 so that some FC just dont get pissed at someone who left and decide to be spiteful... Just an idea to cut down on the tells we see regularly.

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The SE GM & Support's Staff is limited resources and of course they're human too. I don't think they're able to do massive ban and investigate it within few days alas they just set range gil received / gil sent number and it will take more than 3 days to manually investigate each of the suspect player. Not to mention the RMT accounts, botter and farmer, at least several thousand or more than that.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

would 700-1000 people actually do that though?

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Do you know how petty this community is? Back in 1.0, Rokien was treated viciously on these boards. Can you honestly tell me you wouldn't expect him to be black listed by a ton of people just for the sake of it?

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Do you know how petty this community is?

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Not nearly as much as other communities I've belonged to.
700-1000 people is a LOT. Even 400 is a lot. I doubt that many would just go ahead and blist someone because some random stranger said so. But everyone blocks RMT bots.

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Back in 1.0, Rokien was treated viciously on these boards. Can you honestly tell me you wouldn't expect him to be black listed by a ton of people just for the sake of it?

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They did have reasoning behind it though. It was poor reasoning based on his repeated ideas met with less that excitable reaction and eventually rotted into a mire of spite, but it was reason none the less. Having someone just requesting someone be blisted, especially when we know about the consequence, would make it far more unlikely to happen.

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Originally Posted by Gespenst

What I'd really like is a right click -> "report for RMT" option. I'm glad they made it easy to black list the RMTers but it still takes a while to report them and if you've gotten four in a row it can take a good while to fill out the form.

Edti: ^ Sometimes I'll have entire conversations in /tells so I'm not sure that would be the best idea.

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And not only if they had an option to click on the name of an RMT and select "Report for RMT (or spam)" it would put them on ignore for the duration of your logging in. It won't fill up your blacklist and you won't be bothered seeing their spams in any of the various forms of chat. That, I would like to see.

By the time 400 people BL him, that RTM probably already changed 6 accounts.

Aion does that, depending on how many people blacklist x char. It flags it and the gms check it out. Buuutt there's still a ton of bots. I don't know if that's because the system or because the GMs are like non existent there.

Why the auto-suspension? Just have it auto-flag and it's immune to abuse.

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Originally Posted by dcdistro

well how about come up with an idea to make it so its not exploitable so the teams can take their time to work on other things like expansions, current bugs etc

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Nope, you can't.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Easily exploitable.

"HEY GUYS, BLACK LIST MAID MARIAN JUST BECAUSE LOL"

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If you want to get Ride of player xyz then just shout "i just saw that xyz is a botter"

And probably enough ppl. would report so SE must block bis account for investigations.

Sorry for my Bad english.

Wow had a great addon that had certain words/sentences build in and it would hide the chat from those people combined with a function you could set it to auto report these people.
Made all the difference in the world.
I wish more mmo's would like the community would make addons/mods that seem handy while the devs focus on actually making content/fixing bugs.

Make it only count toward pple get blacklist while private someone and if someone did get blacklist over 30 pple from private someone he/she deserve ban regardless rmt or not

Make it to be an option available ONLY from your chat log when you click the name of the RMT that /tell spammed you.

That whay you don't flag random innocent people... unless it is someone sending lots of tells to different people and for some reason they all decided to report as spam.

Also, don't insta ban. Make it so that the spammer loses all chat privileges except /say until is checked by a GM.

Oh, and the reports must be in a short time frame... like an hour or so. Like, lets say 200 reports within 1 hour. That way if there is a very annoying but legit player who gets flagged for spam every now and then, won't get muted by cummulative reports throughout his continuous years of playing and annoying people. (Dunno if that sentece made sense).

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Originally Posted by dcdistro

We been talking on vent and I thought of this crazy idea...

What if you make a script that if say 400 people blacklist an individual they get a 3 day ban pending investigation. This is just a generic number so that its not abused. It could be 700-100 so that some FC just dont get pissed at someone who left and decide to be spiteful... Just an idea to cut down on the tells we see regularly.

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Doesn't matter anyways, RMT delete their char within an hour after spamming.

the more you report the more come back when i first moved to my server there was hardly any it was nice and peaceful in the last 2 or so weeks it has just exploded I've blisted over 80 yet SE little rmt spat every maintenance doesn't seem to be working to well. its never going to stop i look at it as if 1 person just 1 buys $30 worth of gill theres 2 months of spamming the tells with different affjss asjdjd names.. I'm all for the idea of certain amount for tells per min or whatever might help alleviate the issue

Make it so blacklisting someone would blacklist the account (all characters created for it).

I guess they do delete their characters every hour but do they make new accounts every hour? If anything it would slow down the spam I suppose...

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More intelligently.... They could automatically suspend someone for sending 50+ tells to different people in under a minute. Unless you're a gold selling bot, there is no reason you would ever do something like that. Mass tell spam should get you an pretty instant suspension on the account.

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Originally Posted by Akirakogami

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More intelligently.... They could automatically suspend someone for sending 50+ tells to different people in under a minute. Unless you're a gold selling bot, there is no reason you would ever do something like that. Mass tell spam should get you an pretty instant suspension on the account.

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An FC leader may send tells to his 50+ members if he wanted to announce something privately to those members only...

I wish this was resolved somehow. Right click, blacklist is a quick fix but it doesn't solve the problem in the long run. Also, the reporting process is too involved to go into while I'm in the middle of crafting, gathering, or questing.

SE should just investigate heavily blacklisted players... actually; they probably already do.

Or they could set up system to flag words that are commonly used in those RMTs. Most Tells I get from Gil sellers have the word "Gil" in it and even "coupon". If you flag certain words you can narrow down who is doing what and using that data you can further locate accounts that are doing this. That system could be setup to help GMs quickly locate Gil sellers even if they are only shouting stuff on a character for an hour and then delete it and make a new one.

Actually, SE should look specifically at my black list. Every single one was an RMT tell or shout.