Request: Beginner Scholar Macro Help

I just unlocked Scholar and am hoping to find a way to simplify my hotbar. I've noticed both of the fairy modes, Eos and Selene, have the "basic attack" "Embrace" along with sharing the same number of skills. To save hotbar space I'm wondering two things.

First, is it possible to create a macro that combines both of the "Embrace" commands without sacrificing too much casting time so I can save a hotbar slot?

Second, would it be possible to do the same for the other skills? I realize the other skills for each mode aren't the same like "Embrace" is. Still if possible it would be nice if I could create a macro that alternates casting a different command depending on the mode I'm in.

Finally if anyone has any tips/suggestions on UI management and macros (fyi I'm pretty new to macros in general) for Scholars I'd love to hear it!

Here's what I use, which works for both pets when set on Obey. It also works when they're on Sic, but you do get some error messages pop-up on your screen which I just consider incentive to always use Obey.

Physick
/macroicon Physick
/ac "Physick" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

Adloquium
/macroicon Adloquium
/ac "Adloquium" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

Leeches
/macroicon Leeches
/ac "Leeches" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

Lustrate
/macroicon Lustrate
/ac "Lustrate" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>
(*For all of the healing ones above, I just use <t> and select each target I need to heal using function keys, or clicking on their name in the party list. I don't bother with fancy <mo> and <tt> options here since i find it much simpler just to target them manually. I also don't have a separate macro just for Embrace, since you can either press the button on your pet bar, or just start your basic Physick and move slightly to interupt yourself while your pet continues to cast Embrace.
These should work as-is for both fairies, but you may find that Eos will cast embrace with this macro but Selene doesn't. I think this happens on the PS3 for example. If that happens, then try adding the word 'pet' without the quotation marks after <t> on the Embrace line. Alternately, you could add an additional line with '/pac "Embrace" pet Selene' as the command.)

Eos Buffs
/macroicon "Whispering Dawn" pet
/pac "Fey Illumination" pet
/pac "Whispering Dawn" pet
/pac "Fey Covenant" pet
(*This one needs a bit of explanation. If Fey Illumination is on cooldown, then press it once for your AoE regen buff. If it is off cool-down, then press it twice - with a slight pause to allow for casting time - for a stronger AoE regen. I.e. just activate the macro until the icon shows it is in cool-down. Pressing it an additional time while it is in cool-down in either case will buff your party's magic defence. I always use this macro in conjunction with Rouse to get the best effect. I keep Rouse outside of the macro, however, since it gets too complicated otherwise and also to be able to use with Selene without all the extra stuff.)

Selene Buffs
/macroicon "Fey Glow" pet
/pac "Fey Light" pet
/pac "Fey Glow" pet
(*Just press this every time you see your party's AoE speed buff fall off to maintain them 100% of the time in alternation.)

Silent Dusk
/macroicon "Silent Dusk" pet
/pac "Silent Dusk" <mo>
/pac "Silent Dusk" <t>
/pac "Silent Dusk" <tt>

Eye for an Eye
/macroicon "Eye for an Eye"
/ac "Eye for an Eye" <mo>
/ac "Eye for an Eye" <t>
/ac "Eye for an Eye" <tt>

Virus
/macroicon "Virus"
/ac "Virus" <mo>
/ac "Virus" <t>
/ac "Virus" <tt>
(*The above three utility macros just prioritize the target you want them to cast on. If you have your mouse cursor over a valid target's name, then it will cast it on them first. If not, then it will cast it on your current target if valid. If your current target isn't valid (e.g. a player for Virus) then it will cast it on their target. This is mostly useful for debuffing the party's main target without having to take your target off of the tank.)

I don't have a macro for Speedcast raising, but only because I've been lazy about making one. It wouldn't save any space on my bar anyways, since Speedcast needs to be there on it's own as well. Another thing you could consider doing is adding a party chat command in the Virus macro to let people know you cast it and on which target, since it's easy to miss in the list of buffs and can help prevent wasted casts by other players. I don't do this because I find party chat commands to be a bit annoying, although very situational use of them can be useful.

If you want Selene and Eos's ability to be bound to the same keys without using the pet hotbar (so you can use macros and remove the pet hotbar), set eos's abilities on hotbar 1 and when you summon Selene, put in your macro something along the lines of /hotbar change "num". This will change hotbar 1 to whatever hotbar you want while still retaining the same key configuration. Eos's summon should be /hotbar change "1" that way it will put it back to one when eos is summoned and do nothing if the hotbar is already on 1.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Physick
/macroicon Physick
/ac "Physick" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

Adloquium
/macroicon Adloquium
/ac "Adloquium" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

Leeches
/macroicon Leeches
/ac "Leeches" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

Lustrate
/macroicon Lustrate
/ac "Lustrate" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

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Putting Embrace together with Physick/Adloquium/Leeches/Lustrate in my opinion restricts you too much. I mean, yes, a lot of the times it is nice to cast them both on the same target. But on occasion it is nice to be able to cast them both on different targets. With your fairy you can effectively count yourself as two healers, (granted the fairy is a bit less potent), but if you know how to balance your spells/abilities right, is much more efficient to let Embrace have it's own slot.

I keep Physick/Embrace right next to each other, but on separate buttons just for that reason.

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Originally Posted by Classikal

Putting Embrace together with Physick/Adloquium/Leeches in my opinion restricts you too much.

I keep Physick/Embrace right next to each other, but on separate buttons just for that reason.

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I agree, and do the same thing. I use :
/macroicon "Embrace"
/pac "Embrace" <mo>

This allows me to Embrace a target I an mousing over quickly while casting a heal on a separate target. With a roused fairy this can effectively allow you to put out a good bit of split healing.

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Originally Posted by Classikal

Putting Embrace together with Physick/Adloquium/Leeches/Lustrate in my opinion restricts you too much. I mean, yes, a lot of the times it is nice to cast them both on the same target. But on occasion it is nice to be able to cast them both on different targets. With your fairy you can effectively count yourself as two healers, (granted the fairy is a bit less potent), but if you know how to balance your spells/abilities right, is much more efficient to let Embrace have it's own slot.

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You can do this even if you macro Embrace to your heals, it doesn't restrict you at all. Just have a separate keybind for Embrace only, and quickly tap that before pressing your regular heal. Combine with mouseover macros for faster target switching. Because the fairy will have already started casting, the Embrace line in your Physick/Adloq/whatever macro won't run. This allows you to keep the benefit of having the fairy spam heals in-sync with you while also allowing you to easily split heals when necessary.

If for whatever reason I need to split heals frequently for a particular section of a fight where both tanks are taking damage, I just fall into a pattern of "mouse over first target, tap Embrace, mouse over second target, tap Physick, repeat".

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Originally Posted by Classikal

Putting Embrace together with Physick/Adloquium/Leeches/Lustrate in my opinion restricts you too much. I mean, yes, a lot of the times it is nice to cast them both on the same target. But on occasion it is nice to be able to cast them both on different targets. With your fairy you can effectively count yourself as two healers, (granted the fairy is a bit less potent), but if you know how to balance your spells/abilities right, is much more efficient to let Embrace have it's own slot.

I keep Physick/Embrace right next to each other, but on separate buttons just for that reason.

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As mentioned, this is what I do if I need to split heals. As you mentioned, it's only on occasion you need to split your heals, and this works just fine for being able to do that.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

I also don't have a separate macro just for Embrace, since you can either press the button on your pet bar, or just start your basic Physick and move slightly to interupt yourself while your pet continues to cast Embrace.

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Also, about half the time Embrace is on cool-down anyway since the casting times don't line up, so splitting healing doesn't even require this half the time.

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Originally Posted by Ninix

You can do this even if you macro Embrace to your heals, it doesn't restrict you at all. Just have a separate keybind for Embrace only, and quickly tap that before pressing your regular heal. Combine with mouseover macros for faster target switching. Because the fairy will have already started casting, the Embrace line in your Physick/Adloq/whatever macro won't run. This allows you to keep the benefit of having the fairy spam heals in-sync with you while also allowing you to easily split heals when necessary.

If for whatever reason I need to split heals frequently for a particular section of a fight where both tanks are taking damage, I just fall into a pattern of "mouse over first target, tap Embrace, mouse over second target, tap Physick, repeat".

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This is exactly what I do. Gives you complete control. You can split heals whenver you want, or have the double heal whenever you want. It's a win win.

Im playing on a PS3 controller, so I do not have the option to <mo>. That being said, im more used to beefy heals on single targets with WHM. Macroing Embrace to chunk my heals in exchange for being able to heal multiple targets isnt necessarily game changing, its just a preference.

Im currently lvl 34 on my scholar, If youre trying to save hotbar space, I would recommend

Embrace on your single target heals (explained before)

DoTs all on one button. This does have its downfalls, but its helped me more than its helped me. i can explain further if need be.

Swiftcast Res

again my SCH is only 34, so this is just my 2 scents. much better help above me

is there a way for Pets to move back to original location after being knocked back? Esp during Titan ex, is extremely annoying having to re-position the pet everytime.

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Originally Posted by chumsy

is there a way for Pets to move back to original location after being knocked back? Esp during Titan ex, is extremely annoying having to re-position the pet everytime.

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I didn't position my pet for titan ex anymore nowdays, what you do is, just cast sustain if your selene/eos is in low HP. Additional aoe healing from your healer partner should be able to keep the fairies alive until the end of the fight.

In addition to the ones listed, I also macroed Whispering Dawn into Succor, so that my AoE healings cast together.

Kinda surprised no one mentioned this...(or maybe I didn't read close enough)

Pet Embrace Macro

/macroicon "Embrace" Pet
/pac "Embrace" Pet <mo>
/pac "Embrace" Pet <t>

Pet will first attempt to heal your mouse over target, if any, else it will heal your current targeted player. I bind this to my mouse button four but if only 3 button mouse avil (wheel being button 3) I bind this to my left arrow key then the corresponding pet actions to my up, down and right arrow keys. I find it easier to hit mid combat leaving my a/w/s/d undisturbed.

Other targeting options you can use

<f> - focus target
<tt> - target of target (good for Selene silence)

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