WHM Protect Question.

So I recently started playing WHM and have it about ~I75 and have noticed in CT that the protect icon on player list is sometimes different. The honeycomb displayed will be tighter and if I cast over this the honeycomb display is more spread out. I think this has to do with protect potency? Something about more VIT in my gear gives protect and stoneskin more defense or something? Anyone have any idea what I'm talking about? Can't find any info about this and I'm sure I'm not the only one that has noticed it. Any help would be appreciated. TY

If it looks like 3 larger hexagonal shapes, that is proshell (WHM protect that enhances def + magic def) from the ability you got at lower levels.

If it looks like more (maybe 8 or 9) smaller hexagonal shapes, that is just protect, from a SCH that only buffs defense. You should always overwrite that with your better protect.

edit: Idk if there is any difference in the physical defense from either protect, or if there is even anything that affects potency. But that "proshell" is a level 16 CNJ only trait.

Are you maybe confusing Protect with Enhanced Protect? Protect is usually from people cross-classing it (e.g. SCHs) and looks dull, whereas Enhanced Protect comes from CNJ/WHMs with the Proshell trait and looks brighter/larger.

How did I not notice this despite levelling white mage and scholar...? o.O

same what people mentioned above

have another tip for you too

stoneskin nullify 10% dmg of target max HP ( cross class ) while WHM get stoneskin enhancement that make stoneskin nullify 18% dmg of target max HP

so also overwrite stoneskins not just protects with many hexagons icon

the tighter one should be casted by other non-whm players, maybe sch =) only whm/cnj can give the enhanced protect (a trait named proshell). And stoneskin too, whm/cnj have Graniteskin which can absorb 18% damages of the target's maximum hp, and other jobs' stoneskin only got 10%.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

How did I not notice this despite levelling white mage and scholar...? o.O

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People are rarely looking at buffs/debuffs but as a healer you really should. :P

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Originally Posted by BunnyChain

People are rarely looking at buffs/debuffs but as a healer you really should. :P

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This. As someone who leveled WHM first, seeing the dull protect icon quickly became one of my biggest pet peeves. >.>

OK ya sorry I had it mixed up switched to sch and added protect as cross-class and casted it and it's the tighted protect icon and whm has a more spread out icon. ty for the help. never played sch, played smn instead.

I won't bother explaining the differences, since all the posts above me have already done so, but I just want to reiterate that as a WHM, you should be handling all the prots and stoneskins for your group unless there's another WHM with you. Even if the scholar in the party prots and stoneskins people, just override it with your more effective version.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

I won't bother explaining the differences, since all the posts above me have already done so, but I just want to reiterate that as a WHM, you should be handling all the prots and stoneskins for your group unless there's another WHM with you. Even if the scholar in the party prots and stoneskins people, just override it with your more effective version.

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Pretty much this.

I get annoyed at SCH who decide to start buffing the party as I'm working my way down the list with Stoneskin or if I asked for a min before buffing. Your SS and Protect are worthless when I'm buffing, so stop it! Learn the differences between the classes already! (I've had too many geared SCH in post-50 content say that their buffs are as good as mine...how do these people not read?)

The main question has already been answered but I just want to add some extra info.

Protect gives a +15% defense bonus. This is true no matter who casts it. They are always equal. The CNJ Proshell trait gives their buff an additional +15% magic defense boost. The difference in the symbol is for whether the mdef boost is present.

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Originally Posted by BunnyChain

People are rarely looking at buffs/debuffs but as a healer you really should. :P

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Of course I look at buffs (and by extension debuffs), but the changes in the icon are minor and I've always cast Protect on the team at the beginning of a dungeon or boss fight regardless. Knowing the difference isn't something that comes up often and when it does it's inconsequential since a good WHM should be casting Protect if only to renew it.

Scholars please, look to see if there is a whm in your group before you cast buffs, it just leads to confusion and people getting crappy buffs.