DL vs CT question.

Hello all. SMN is my main and that's getting all my af2 when I get tomes so whenever I run CT that goes to my PLD. When my SMN hit 50 I already had a DPS and Healer role so I wanted a tank at 50 so I can be a triple threat :P Don't let my thread title fool you. I know it's obvious that CT armor is better than DL. My problem is Sat I got the PLD boots from CT and today when the week reset I got the body armor. I have 2 CT armors that I'm not sure I can wear because the DL gear is one of those 2 piece sets. The body is also the helmet and the pants are also the boots. I still have some of my lord and hoplite gear lying around. Is it better for me to downgrade one section of armor to upgrade the other or am I going to have to wait till I get more CT gear or af2?

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Well, in terms if ilvl it's the same. One part upgraded from 70 to 80, one part down from 70 to 60. Main stats (STR and VIT) should total up, but of course secondary stats will be different.

Nonetheless it shouldn't really matter for secondary stats. I would personally go for it because CT body + CT boots looks definitely WAYYYY better than the fugly DL..

I would go with whatever raises your primary stats. Unless you are going to coil with it, then make sure your accuracy is good as well.

In terms of raw stats: [i80 legs/body (CT) + i60 feet/head (Lord's/Hoplite)] > [i70 legs+feet/body+head (DL)] > [i60 legs/body (Lord's/Hoplite) + i80 feet/head (CT)].

If you go for full CT gear, you will lack a lot of accuracy for coil. Best to do is mix both sets and never go under 470 (you will have some miss but nothing serious).

I don't do coil much because of my shifting work schedule and when I do I bring my smn. It has better gear and my fc already has some good tanks. I just use pld for faster duty finding when I do roulettes or ct. I do agree the dl armor does look kind of ugly. I don't use my pally for anything that gives it acc problems so I guess I can go switch things out.
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If you want anything else than look on your tank, avoid CT gear at all cost. it's total garbage and should be banned from every challenging end game tank gear. DL gear was sufficient for month. there is no need to take CT if you intend to tank at high level

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

If you want anything else than look on your tank, avoid CT gear at all cost. it's total garbage and should be banned from every challenging end game tank gear. DL gear was sufficient for month. there is no need to take CT if you intend to tank at high level

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Not sure I understand this. Why avoid CT gear?

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Originally Posted by Ketch

Not sure I understand this. Why avoid CT gear?

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Probably because only one piece of it has accuracy. Still, that doesn't mean it's not viable, but you do need to be mindful of it (if you use full CT gear, you won't reach the accuracy threshold for Coil).

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Originally Posted by Ketch

Not sure I understand this. Why avoid CT gear?

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as said above, because this set is afwully akward for accuracy, and thus is terrible for the coil. You'll miss like 30% of the time on T1, the easiest, and this often results in a wipe. T2 will be your limit with CT gear.

CT gear seems ok for EX primals though, but I have no accurate datas for that as I already hit the coil cap

Ok, but all endgame in not Coil. Was saying it should be banned from all endgame an exaggeration?

Also, DL body gives no Accuracy to begin with. Even for Coil, there's no reason to avoid CT body/helm.

Personally:

DL Body, Legs, Hands on my Paladin and only upgraded my accessories to iL90 via Myth & Allagan.

This put me around iL80/82 and with enough HP and accuracy to work through to T4 without accuracy issues on my PLD.

Once I got the main body from Turn 1 I bought the Myth head - the only piece from CT I'd considering is Breeches of Light since Valor Leg slot will take two weeks of Myth.

Darklight + il80/90 Accessories is the better route - in my opinion.

Valor pants and warrior of light boots are a good combo to replace DL legs

I did this as well.... Never even bought the DL Flanchard.... Simply not worth the grind IMO, however this was my main also. So I was able to pick up the Valor boots, and the DL Heavy armor at the same time. Also I currently Tank in Coil with Light Armor you'll be fine.

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Ok, but all endgame in not Coil. Was saying it should be banned from all endgame an exaggeration?

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He's being dumb. CT gear is better than DL as long as you're reaching the accuracy cap. And there's little reason to not have CT gear instead of DL pieces that have no acc. on them at all.

Because I already have a second class and could get the Warrior primal weapon I skipped all of the DL except a couple accs and went straight to myth+CT stuff. Depending on where you stand with myth it shouldn't be too hard to work around DL.
In the name of being efficient I certainly wouldn't spend philo on DL unless it had acc or you really need it.

CT PLD gear is terrible as a full set, but is insanely usefull when you want to balance your char. If you equip a full CT gear, you'll lack accuracy. But if you use it to balance your gear, and just equip one or 2 pieces at a time, it's fine.