Twintania! ISIS! Turn 5 strategy!

Hi,
If anyone is still having trouble with turn 5, I have written up a detailed guide of the mechanics in the fight and how we (ISIS) deals with them.
www.isisfc.org
http://isisfc.org/forum/m/14432477/v...urn-5-isis-way

Our method isn't perfect but, we usually one shot twin each week. It is very detailed, so it is a bit long. Critique our strategy if you like or w/e, I hope this helps groups who are still struggling on it a bit :)
We do a method at the start I haven't seen any other groups do, which I feel makes the hard enrage trivial! (Not sure if anyone else does this too?)

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Really good write-up. :) Saw a few things I'm going to make sure to point out to my raiders tonight to hopefully get us some further progress on Twin! Thanks~

Tips:

- When you hit Twin's 13min hard enrage timer a Paladin can survive with Hallowed Ground up. She'll keep on using Profusion until the Paladin is eventually killed but some fights are so close that this can mean a win or a loss.

- The person who is in 2nd place on the hate list will NEVER be targeted by Conflags, Fireballs, or Stunned and killed by Dreadknights. The people near the very bottom of the hate list are targeted far more often then someone in 3rd as well. As such, it's very important your Offtank (Paladin) is 2nd on the hate list during the Twister phase so he is never insta-killed when Dreadknights spawn; thus letting him Shield Bash (if he dies he won't have TP for shield bash anymore.) Similarily, you can make your Offtank last on the hate list during the Conflag phase so your DPS are hit by Conflags and Fireballs less often to increase total DPS in this phase.

- Tell your party to stop DPS when Twin gets to 60% HP. Wait for her to conflag someone, break them out of the conflag, THEN finish Twintania off and enter the next phase. Otherwise, she'll start her dive bomb phase while 1-2 people are still trapped in a Conflag.

- Twintania's first set of Dive Bombs are easy enough to dodge but the second set can be chaotic due to the three snakes. The easiest way to survive the second set is with a counter. The moment the first three Snakes spawn there is exactly 45 seconds until she starts her second set of dive bombs. Having someone keep track of this really increases party survivability. (Can even look at the current raid timer and just add 15 seconds. Time is 14:13 when Snakes spawn. Dive Bombs will start again at 13:28.)

Just a few things we learned the hard way.

A Warrior can also survive 1 Aetheric Profusion using Thrill of Battle if they're topped off or Holmgang if they aren't.

Strag is real nothing at this point since video has come out 3 month at least. The key is each job need know what they doing. For tank, Ot is key.
For DPS, Blm is key. Healers both need know when DS will come. My suggestion is don't use single tank. Even many group can pass it with single tank but that stag is much worse and unreliable than two tanks. Most new people have issue on divi bomb. The key for divbomb is everyone need stack well. If your group can't stack well, issue will come.

I have video links as well. I found video's are real nice until you get into a fight. At the same time a video shows you how experienced people handle a fight and they make it look easy. The write up is a complement to our weekly video's we put up.

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I have video links as well. I found video's are real nice until you get into a fight. At the same time a video shows you how experienced people handle a fight and they make it look easy. The write up is a complement to our weekly video's we put up.

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Like the job you did with the written strat. New age MMOs everyone is so wild about "let me watch a video of the fight under prefect farm conditions!! This will explain things!!"

Written strats if well done (like yours) explain everything step by step in a concise way and don't lead to false beliefs about how easy or difficult something is. I think the only thing I'd really add to your write up is some specific information about the mobs and their abilities in terms of hp/damage. "Liquid hell hits for XXXX damage and leaves a circle of fire on the ground that does XXXX a tick" "Asclep has X hp and will hit for about 1000-1500 a swing + tail rattle (or whatever its called) for 2000-2300"

Just that kind of stuff I personally like to see but that's just me. It mattered a lot more in EQ when the damage things did determined which class to use as tanks etc etc.

Thanks! I will look into updating it based what people here tell me!

Look forward to hearing from anyone who is able to complete twin based on my write up as well!

Nice guide.

alsodangerzone

alsoalso Wouldn't this be better in the Dungeons section?
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/648-Dungeons

Thanks Zaft. I did the video recording for our Youtube channel, I also tried to leave in our voice comms as well in the videos. Some folks want to hear how effective groups communicate and we're more then happy to help the community in any capacity that we can. We posted here, simply because we think we have some great resources that can help folks, that may just be surfing the general forum.

If any of this will help folks with their fights, then it was time well spent to us! :)

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Originally Posted by Galactimus

- Tell your party to stop DPS when Twin gets to 60% HP. Wait for her to conflag someone, break them out of the conflag, THEN finish Twintania off and enter the next phase. Otherwise, she'll start her dive bomb phase while 1-2 people are still trapped in a Conflag.

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It obviously depends how your DPS is, but it has become common not just in my group but many other groups I know to just race dps during conflags and breaking the neurolink right after the 3rd conflag. Fireballs and DS often end up horribly mistimed, but you can react and deal with it and it saves having to hold DPS.

The one thing we adjusted when we hit enrage at 12% health left was, that we never held back DPS. We go all out, all fight and deal with mechanics as they happen.

We now finish the fight in just under 11.5 minutes, allows for a comfortable finish.

Exactly. When we first started getting through some of the first phases, we were holding back a bit, just to make sure everything was timed just right. We have a locker room in our forums where we put old videos, failed attempts, and review them, just like a major sports team. We wanted to perfect our game.

While watching them, we noticed that there were times when we were more worried about making sure we had the mechanics just right, rather then just dps'ing twin to push her through her phases. Now, we push damage to her at all times. Unless there is something going on right now that we need to react too, all times you should be laying down the beatstick. It works for us.

Great guide! ^^

In your video, whats that alarm that goes off with every dive bomb and twister, and that yoda quote with every hatch? Not those 3rd party apps you aren't supposed to be using right?

lol, if you're gonna use em' Yoshi said "use discretion." Posting how to video while that app is active isn't very discrete.

It is a phone application/widget with oddly timed text messages :)

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It is a phone application/widget with oddly timed text messages :)

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I hear people that require oddly timed text messages during Twin, are pretty terrible at the game.

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Originally Posted by Serdapi

I hear people that require oddly timed text messages during Twin, are pretty terrible at the game.

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I wouldn't know, I am on PS3.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Really good write-up. :) Saw a few things I'm going to make sure to point out to my raiders tonight to hopefully get us some further progress on Twin! Thanks~

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Let me know anything was particularly helpful or if you kill her!

The guide from your scholar helped me improve a lot. Kuddos to him.

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Originally Posted by High_Timesw

It is a phone application/widget with oddly timed text messages :)

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I'm pretty sure I've heard it before, and it wasn't a phone application. It's not a parser as well, but only a tracker. http://i.imgur.com/1Vx8MXz.gif As if that matters anyway.

Pretty neat guide you have there.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

The guide from your scholar helped me improve a lot. Kuddos to him.

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Awesome, I'll be sure to let him know. He'll be happy it helped!

Will there be a guide for the ranged DD or melee DD? I kinda wanna help my FC mates! The guide is already so awesome and improved them a bunch!

Thanks for all the time in effort you guys put into making this guide, i'll definitely be showing it to my FC buds for when we make our next attempt. :)

P.S. I see there's a SCH PoV, hopefully your WHM can make one too. :3

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Originally Posted by Rahsch

Will there be a guide for the ranged DD or melee DD? I kinda wanna help my FC mates! The guide is already so awesome and improved them a bunch!

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Great question! The guide is pretty long, but at the bottom are several links done by our members. We strived to do it phase by phase with pretty good detail. We have tank, healer, blackmage and archer up there. I'll keep working on getting our monk to do his!

I like to see Coeurl represent, keep it up Isis!

This FC has a solid group that downs T5 weekly! I vouch for any advice and guides this group creates!

Thanks so much for this guide! Our bard was having trouble with divebombs but is able to dodge them now by moving left instead of straight out like you guys suggested. We downed T5 for the first time last night!

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Thanks so much for this guide! Our bard was having trouble with divebombs but is able to dodge them now by moving left instead of straight out like you guys suggested. We downed T5 for the first time last night!

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Nice! Congrats! It is a great feeling.

Just to add, tonight we'll be streaming our attempts tonight (probably around 8pm EST) at http://www.twitch.tv/consolabledc if you want to see our strat in action.

I'll post a little bit later once we get closer to narrow down the start time.

We are currently replacing our warrior, so we will not be streaming until our replacement is experienced enough.

We are currently looking to replace our WHM for 2.2, Please visit out site and apply if interested. www.isisfc.org

Hey finally got some more members to write up their parts... got our second grp trough so new tank one as well from (MT and OT) perspective.

New BRD, PLD, MNK and a WAR one in progress atm.

http://isisfc.org/forum/page/1/m/144...urn-5-isis-way

Warrior will be complete soon. Wanted to say thank you for the community for all the support! We are glad the guides help. If you all have any suggestions feel free to ask!

Our live streams can be found at: http://www.twitch.tv/isisraid
Our YouTube channel can be found at: http://www.youtube.com/user/ISISraid

We do our Coil runs on Monday Nights and Archive the broadcasts! Feel free to jump in tonight and say hello, ask any questions you want, or just join in the hiliarity!

For those interested, we'll be streaming our coil runs tonight at:

www.twitch.tv/isisraid