Give us an option to stop low level characters from sending us /TELL

after burning my lifetime saving on the over-priced housing, these damn tells feel extra annoying, so can we please have the option to disallow low level characters from sending tell to us?

Do you mean to say you burnt your irl savings on housing?

I am sorry to ask this but I have to....

what has your buying an over priced house(nobody put a gun on your head to do so) anything to do with low levels (that probably need some help or whatever) sending you a tell ?..you always have the option to block them. Besides how is that the fault of low levels if you spend all your money in a house ???

ok I need a coffee..some people should really remember they were low levels and probably very happy to get some help from.....perfect strangers ...ohh wait of course not how silly....

Mei

A repeat but this is my idea:

Players cannot send tells to anyone not on their Friend list, Linkshells, or Free Company until they reach level 15 (or any other number).
However, players may respond to tells sent to them regardless of level.

But it'd also be a good idea to allow players to set up custom filters to automatically block tells.

How about having an option to turn off tells from anyone below level 50?

Or allow you to have options for it. Friends only, FC only, both, none, all.

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Originally Posted by Elim

How about having an option to turn off tells from anyone below level 50?

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O.oa

uhhh why?

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Originally Posted by Krokov

O.oa

uhhh why?

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o_O Well...ya know...for the whole point of this thread...

Less chance of getting RMT spam...

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Originally Posted by Krokov

O.oa

uhhh why?

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I'd definitely use it. I don't have any friends that aren't 50.

I believe OP is posting about gil sellers and turning off tells from their multitude of level 1 characters.

Realistically though, this would increase the amount of players having their accounts hacked by gil sellers instead.

That being said, I'm pretty convinced most of the attacks are on people trying to buy gil by placing their details on RMT websites.

I doubt it'll increase the amount of players getting their accounts attacked, unless it somehow increases the number of people out there that are foolish and reckless with their account information.

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Originally Posted by Elim

How about having an option to turn off tells from anyone below level 50?

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If one of his classes is not 50 or if his current class is not 50?

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Originally Posted by Felis

If one of his classes is not 50 or if his current class is not 50?

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S/he would be able to /tell you if s/he had a 50 in any class. Assuming it can be programmed that way.

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Originally Posted by Elim

S/he would be able to /tell you if s/he had a 50 in any class. Assuming it can be programmed that way.

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But RMT can bot their way to 50 in DoL. In fact, they're doing it as we speak :x

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Originally Posted by Elim

S/he would be able to /tell you if s/he had a 50 in any class. Assuming it can be programmed that way.

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Unfortunately it doesn't look that way, the level information of other classes is not sent (to cut down bandwidth usage), you only see it when checking search info, where it is pulled directly from database. Programming /tells to pull all levels of the player from database would cause massive server load with all the /tells going on, so it's not happening. This if players had the option to block <x levels, if always blocked, no option, then the client can just refuse to send /tell, as your client is aware of all your levels.

Either way, it would need more than 1 option and I'm in favor of whitelists, friend only, FC only, none, all and combination of the first three.

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

But RMT can bot their way to 50 in DoL. In fact, they're doing it as we speak :x

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Yes, that's why I said it would be less of a chance, not completely get rid of them.

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Originally Posted by Sove92

Unfortunately it doesn't look that way, the level information of other classes is not sent (to cut down bandwidth usage), you only see it when checking search info, where it is pulled directly from database.

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That sucks, but makes sense. It wouldn't bother me much to switch to one of my 50s in order to /tell some people though.

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Originally Posted by Fadigre

I believe OP is posting about gil sellers and turning off tells from their multitude of level 1 characters.

Realistically though, this would increase the amount of players having their accounts attacked by gil sellers instead.

That being said, I'm pretty convinced most of the attacks are on people trying to buy gil by placing their details on RMT websites.

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I can tell you right now, this is not the case. I have been playing MMO's for almost 10 years and never once bought or even thought of purchasing gil, but yet, each day i log into FFXIV i'm greeted within a minute with an RMT advertisement. This is beyond rediculous @ this point. This should have been resolved months ago. Why isn't there an option to "Black list and report"? Takes way too long to report each offender, so i just block them and don't even report anymore. :(

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Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath

I can tell you right now, this is not the case. I have been playing MMO's for almost 10 years and never once bought or even thought of purchasing gil, but yet, each day i log into FFXIV i'm greeted within a minute with an RMT advertisement. This is beyond rediculous @ this point. This should have been resolved months ago. Why isn't there an option to "Black list and report"? Takes way too long to report each offender, so i just block them and don't even report anymore. :(

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What isn't the case? :confused:


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Oh, I see. I meant having their accounts hacked.
I can see why that would be confusing.

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What isn't the case? :confused:


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Oh, I see. I meant having their accounts hacked.
I can see why that would be confusing.

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Sorry, i should have clarified, it's late and i'm sleepy, please forgive me! :)

What sort of community would a feature like this create? An elitist one that discriminates against low level players. Not everyone under level 50 is RMT. All you have to is right click and block someone. It takes less than a second.

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Sorry, i should have clarified, it's late and i'm sleepy, please forgive me! :)

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It's cool, I didn't actually write the word hacked at all in my original post, it's early and I'm sleepy :p

I had a idea how to stop the /tell- they should give us a option that we can click on/off

On option, Free Company, Linkshell and people on friends list can send /tells.

Off option, it would be as it was before where you can get tells from anyone.

Either that bring over the filter from final fantasy 11 also there is already a option to shut off tells in general but that can be a problem when you cant see people you know send a tell which is why the On option would be nice.

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

What sort of community would a feature like this create? An elitist one that discriminates against low level players. Not everyone under level 50 is RMT. All you have to is right click and block someone. It takes less than a second.

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You sir, are making a great point.

The main purpose of this thread I feel is to block RMT spam and general spam altogether.

We currently have two options.
#1 Block as many RMT spammers as we can until BL fills up. Then suffer.
#2 Change chat setting and do not display /TELL whatsoever.

A method a friend and myself have adapted is to simply chat via Linkshell.
We've got enough linkshells to have a dedicated personal chatroom, and simply turn off everything we don't want. Shame about legitimate /TELLs get filtered.

This is one of my main issues with FFXIV:ARR and would love some solution to it.

~Don't stop people who aren't friends from messaging, this is insanely useful to Free Companies.

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What sort of community would a feature like this create? An elitist one that discriminates against low level players. Not everyone under level 50 is RMT. All you have to is right click and block someone. It takes less than a second.

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The OP doesn't care about such players, he's happy in his own little world with his elite friends.

@OP: turn off /tells and use FC/LS chat since I expect your circle of friends is pretty small and all will be in one or other such groupings.

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Originally Posted by Nuinn

But RMT can bot their way to 50 in DoL. In fact, they're doing it as we speak :x

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RMT do not use the same characters to spam tells as they do to gather. They keep the contact between the two characters to an absolute minimum, to avoid detection.

Do you honestly think having it vs. not having it will make any difference in how many low level players the OP will talk to? I highly doubt it.

Doesn't /busy stop tells?

Problem is the tells but the rate these RMTs spammers can use it. There needs to be a limit to how many tells min.

If you continue not reporting RMT it will never get less.
Just ignoring them or deactivating the chat all together can not be the solution you are looking for.

Shiva has become a pretty calm server, regarding RMT activities. In about one week I do receive 2-3 /tells, I report em, BL em and go on. You all should do so too.

Raising the level at which you can send /tells will likely not result in any change in account hacking. I'm pretty sure folks in the business of gilselling are not necessarily the same folks who hack accounts; to assume so is akin to assuming that someone who sells marijuana is also into human trafficking. And, as folks have pointed out, doing so would not stop RMT tells, only delay them; leveling a DoL job to 50 is very easy to do via botting.

Right now, the blacklist system we have isn't too bad; as was mentioned, it takes only a second to add someone. For those worried about filling up their blacklist and then being helpless - try unblacklisting a few of your early ones. I can virtually guarantee that you will no longer receive /tells from those accounts. They may not be deleted, but they HAVE been banned (which is not the same as a deletion).

I'm not against the notion of setting up a system of /tell filters (such as the friend-only, FC-only, etc system mentioned), but I think it would be kind of sad for people to use it, since it would filter out good-natured and honest /tells along with the gilsellers. It may not come up often, but I don't mind helping out if someone randomly asks me for crafting advice when they see me crafting, for instance, or wants to know where I got a piece of gear from.

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Raising the level at which you can send /tells will likely not result in any change in account hacking. I'm pretty sure folks in the business of gilselling are not necessarily the same folks who hack accounts; to assume so is akin to assuming that someone who sells marijuana is also into human trafficking.

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There is however a direct correlation between account hacking and RMT, it doesn't have to be the RMT groups that hack accounts, hackers will compromise the accounts, then sell said accounts to RMT. Restrictions on /tell activity would make compromised accounts much more valuble to RMT, therefore they put their prices for accounts up, making hackers want to hack more accounts to make more money.

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Originally Posted by Zaels

A repeat but this is my idea:

Players cannot send tells to anyone not on their Friend list, Linkshells, or Free Company until they reach level 15 (or any other number).
However, players may respond to tells sent to them regardless of level.

But it'd also be a good idea to allow players to set up custom filters to automatically block tells.

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Yeah and we need to reach level 5 to use emotes. and level 10 to use the marketboard and level 13 to use /say and level 25 for /shout and /yell


An MMO where people are allowed to talk to you, what an insane idea. NOBODY wants that.

If you people want to play alone, buy an offline game and play that. Shut yourself in, no telephone, no going outside, you might have to interact with someone.

Ugh I'm on the fence with this idea. On the surface it sounds like a great idea. I get /tell's from Gil sellers just like anyone else. It's become a blind reaction of right click add to blacklist. I don't even think about it much anymore. So, taking the one or two times that I do that when I'm online away would save me about 5 seconds of annoyance?

However, I'm not to keen on the idea of restricting speech/tells/says/shouts/yells of anyone. It hurts the new players who are trying to start out either solo, or with friends/family. Sure they would know each others character name when they start off, ie like coordinating what server they want to start on, and just add each other to their friends list. But that just feels off? Something about joining a brand new game and being muzzled just doesn't seem like a good fix. I don't know really what I'd suggest as a fix.

Some of the best conversations I've had in the game were from random people sending me tells about one thing or another. RMT is annoying but I don't think this is a good "solution." For people that have a lot of issues with RMT, maybe move to a legacy server. I've been playing since launch and my blacklist is only at 60 out of 200.

Lets be more antisocial guys, really its the solution.

Blocking low levels is not the answer. It sounds really tempting, but it's not a good idea. So for example, i was running around Uldah and a new player /tell me to ask me where a certain spot was in the city because I was standing near them. I showed them, they said thanks, and left. Interactions like this would be blocked if we blocked low levels. I wasn't going to add the player to my friends list to talk to them, or how would i even know if they wanted to talk to me in the first place?

We can't be antisocial just because of RMT. RMT would just bot to 15 or 20 or whatever level and continue to spam. We would only be harming new players. I suggest doing what i did for now...i have a macro that just blacklists the last person to tell me. I stuck it on my hotbar and anytime a RMT /tells me, one click and done. The only thing I could see to fix it would be making the reporting easier somehow and make sure that the GMs respond in a timely manner to get rid of them.

You can make it a slider.
do not accept tells if player doesn't have a level of XX

"We are sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause and ask to continue with your cooperation"

Aion has a game option to stop any mail from characters lower than lvl 10, m sure something could be figured out.

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Doesn't /busy stop tells?

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Yep, Was a saniity saver in the first months XD

Blocking based on levels. No thanks. As always happy to give advice to low level players who appraoch me in game. BListing account instead of the character? Oh yes! One it would stop spammers, spamming, the deleting/remaking another char to bypass the blist. Also would give repercusions to anyone making alt chars to grief or troll XD