Primal, bosses, and their battle system

Referring to primal battles, dungeon bosses, why are the fights so routinely rehearsed as to where if I don't follow step by step actions of a video strategy guide, players usually quit? Wouldn't it be nice if battles were more "real-time" at the moment decision making then just robotically rehearsed. :confused:

I advocate the idea of having a primal mode, where the primals execute their attacks in a random but potentially doable order. That would truly demand some skill. (Especially of a random-order attacking Titan, that would be my favorite)

As long as the bosses have fixed skill rotations this wont happen.

Think about how many people can't kill these fights now and they're scripted. It would be fun, but I would never pug it. Not even if there was a fire

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Originally Posted by Braxton

Think about how many people can't kill these fights now and they're scripted. It would be fun, but I would never pug it. Not even if there was a fire

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Mostly you are right, but a lot of that I don't blame on people not not being able to do it, but Internet connection and so forth. Have a random battle would be fine if given enough reaction time to react.

Whilst i partly agree with OP idea but it can be problematic since rng will take big majority factor to kill the boss.
In example, bomb comes with landslide in bad timing, Table flip after Table flip, Tamult after Tamult.

And even they are currently scripted, ppl still can't kill them.

Honestly, it's like playing nes genesis and snes games again. R-type or battle toads or contra. Where it's not your twitch reaction that matters but how well you can memorize patterns. Makes the victories feel a little hollow. It's more about how well you know the choreography than your ability to play the game.

My point of what I'm making is to have more strategies being made of how the fight should be handled then just routine pattern following since were in parties of players.
This would make parties play more than just having players quit because someone doesn't already know the standard boss pattern.

There's a smidge of this already, where there are multiple preconceived strategies that the group decides on before going in. As far as true fluidity, that's unlikely to happen anytime soon, sadly.

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Originally Posted by tOnni3

, Table flip after Table flip, Tamult after Tamult.

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This is why ICD's exist.

OP Y U NO REALIZE that titan's ex bomb patterns is already randomized?

I liked the randomness of Ifrit Extreme in 1.0, minus the horrible lag of course.

He had some abilities that were predictable, and some that were triggered at random. Eruptions spawned somewhat randomly, with no warning trigger (like using Inferno Howl as he does in 2.0). There was a special timing to eruptions during nail phase, though, and they rotated from person to person in a sequence. His four body dash didn't always appear in roughly the same spot (as it does in 2.0). You had to be REALLY reactive the moment he jumped. If you got hit by dash, you had a powerful dot put on you that needed to be dispelled. The first Inferno Ifrit used after dropping back down would turn you into a human bomb (similar to the Searing Wind mechanic in ARR). I thought that fight had enough randomness to be a challenge... to an extent, it couldn't be rehearsed, but the dps checks were so tough that each dps was assigned a set of nails to AoE around to get them down in time. Again... the lag made the fight nearly undoable for me (very frustrating), although I did beat it. If they had a fight like that without the lag issues of 1.0... I think it would be fun. I was really disappointed with how easy Ifrit Extreme is in ARR.