Twintania killing

The feeling I got when clearing Twintania was definitely the best feeling I've had in the game so far. I hope turns 6 through 9 are just as intense.

How did other folks feel when killing her? Watching her health slowly drop, dodging Liquid Hells, hoping to god that everyone pulls off Hatch correctly... it was quite a rush.

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Originally Posted by ufufu

The feeling I got when clearing Twintania was definitely the best feeling I've had in the game so far. I hope turns 6 through 9 are just as intense.

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Agreement: Twintania is the fight in this game that one gets a rise on that first clear. The amount of coordination, the multiple skill checks involved, and the overall choreography of the fight is just well done. Knowing Yoshi, turn 9 is going to be Kephess, Pandemonium Warden, Aboslute Virtue, etc level of fun.

I have yet to clear Twintania, but have been practicing hard. I hope I can get that same feeling too, when I eventually clear it.

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Originally Posted by juniglee

I have yet to clear Twintania, but have been practicing hard. I hope I can get that same feeling too, when I eventually clear it.

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Query: What part are you stuck on? From someone who has cleared it multiple times, this one would be happy to assist with any questions you may have.

I always get excited in the egg & liquid fire phase, it's a real rush when she hits 30%. Totally GG and you know she is gonna die.

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

Query: What part are you stuck on? From someone who has cleared it multiple times, this one would be happy to assist with any questions you may have.

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Thanks for the help. My party currently gets past dive bombs, but never seem to have enough DPS for snakes. Right before the blue boom, the big snake isn't dead, and for whatever reason, half the party wipes, even while in Neurolink. Only the OT and melee(s) have stacks.

We're currently working on it, we have at least one member who's cleared Twintania a few times. It's a learning process but we'll get there :)

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Originally Posted by ufufu

The feeling I got when clearing Twintania was definitely the best feeling I've had in the game so far. I hope turns 6 through 9 are just as intense.

How did other folks feel when killing her? Watching her health slowly drop, dodging Liquid Hells, hoping to god that everyone pulls off Hatch correctly... it was quite a rush.

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Now imagine an entire game like this...

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Originally Posted by juniglee

Thanks for the help. My party currently gets past dive bombs, but never seem to have enough DPS for snakes. Right before the blue boom, the big snake isn't dead, and for whatever reason, half the party wipes, even while in Neurolink. Only the OT and melee(s) have stacks.

We're currently working on it, we have at least one member who's cleared Twintania a few times. It's a learning process but we'll get there :)

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Statment: This one's static was having the exact same problem until a few changes were made. One, have the DPS bring both Higeas (small snakes) to 50% only then focus fire Asclepeus (Big Snake). During the second Dive Bomb Phase, have your BLM(s) use Manawall and just eat a divebomb if targeted and continue to damage the Asclepeus while the rest of the group is kiting the divebombs off, be careful though as while the BLM is immune to the damage from the divebomb, the rest of the group is not if the BLM is targeted so position carefully.

Statement: When the last 2 Higeas spawn, group them all together and caster LB2/3. With 2 both the 50% Higeas should be dead and the others will have 2 stacks on them making them easily killed as well. The Asclepeus should be by itself now with 4 stacks on it at ~65%, have your scholar switch to cleric stance, as WHM can easily solo heal the tank, and blast it down with all CD and damage that can be mustered. If done right all the snakes should be dead 6-7 seconds before Aetheric Profusion goes off.

Twintania is the only fight that I know of that makes you work for the kill as a team and forces you to use every skill and ability imaginable.

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

Statment: This one's static was having the exact same problem until a few changes were made. One, have the DPS bring both Higeas (small snakes) to 50% only then focus fire Asclepeus (Big Snake). During the second Dive Bomb Phase, have your BLM(s) use Manawall and just eat a divebomb if targeted and continue to damage the Asclepeus while the rest of the group is kiting the divebombs off, be careful though as while the BLM is immune to the damage from the divebomb, the rest of the group is not if the BLM is targeted so position carefully.

Statement: When the last 2 Higeas spawn, group them all together and caster LB2/3. With 2 both the 50% Higeas should be dead and the others will have 2 stacks on them making them easily killed as well. The Asclepeus should be by itself now with 4 stacks on it at ~65%, have your scholar switch to cleric stance, as WHM can easily solo heal the tank, and blast it down with all CD and damage that can be mustered. If done right all the snakes should be dead 6-7 seconds before Aetheric Profusion goes off.

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Thanks for the advice. I adviced my DPS to use Mega Potion of STR HQ too, we need all the DPS we can output. Probably going to have practice on Sunday, since it's Chinese New Year period for my static, they're probably off celebrating and getting drunk!

I feel like I'm at the point where I haven't got past the blue boom, but I can somewhat confidently handle Phases 4 and 5 as the off-tank.

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Originally Posted by juniglee

Thanks for the advice. I adviced my DPS to use Mega Potion of STR HQ too, we need all the DPS we can output. Probably going to have practice on Sunday, since it's Chinese New Year period for my static, they're probably off celebrating and getting drunk!

I feel like I'm at the point where I haven't got past the blue boom, but I can somewhat confidently handle Phases 4 and 5 as the off-tank.

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Opinion: Snakes is the hardest phase of the fight, Twister and Egg bomb phases are much easier, once you regularly get past snakes, you are only a hop skip and a jump from clearing it. Good Luck!

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

Query: What part are you stuck on? From someone who has cleared it multiple times, this one would be happy to assist with any questions you may have.

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Love how you seem to talk like HK-47.

I was really happy when i killed twin for the first time, it was the only boss missing from clearing all game content. Also the first big boss i killed in any mmo, not counting some bad games with glitches. Felt like going to wow launch where i didnt get a good shot at mc/onyxia since i had to quit quite soon, and no on was really raiding.

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

Agreement: Twintania is the fight in this game that one gets a rise on that first clear. The amount of coordination, the multiple skill checks involved, and the overall choreography of the fight is just well done. Knowing Yoshi, turn 9 is going to be Kephess, Pandemonium Warden, Aboslute Virtue, etc level of fun.

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PW & AV are not what I'd call fun.

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

PW & AV are not what I'd call fun.

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Objection: Both Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden were great fun. The game was more outsmart the devs than legitimately kill the boss for the longest time and that is what made those fun.

Twintania is a challenging fight, but for a final boss, it lacks style and design which makes it a forgettable experience. The arena looks incredibly bland, bad music and for a flying creature, her moves are lame. In comparison, the Crucia dragon fight from Rift had it all - challenge, style, great design and music. I hope they make the final boss of Turn 9 to be memorable in all categories, not just one.

I admit to get the feeling "Finally done!"
But... its not the feeling "Something accomplished"

First, it is Teamplay and you need 7 others, in add mechanik does not allow mistakes (or not much mistakes)... frustration!
Secund, you improve untill reaching a point where you cant any more and have to rely on others, thats the point where it becomes a burden to go again, again and again... no progress!

In Sum, it is true, you will get a good feeling, but because repeating the same over and over again it just feels like "oh yea, what? finally... whatever!"
You are in a condition where you dont care any more if you win or not...

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Originally Posted by juniglee

Only the OT and melee(s) have stacks.

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That's an issue as well. Melee shouldn't be getting stacks at all. Either they're positioned wrong, or the snakes are.

Should be something like OT | Snakes | Asclepius | MT + Melee.

Melee won't survive Twintania's return with stacks unless they're heavily stacking vit. And if they're stacking vit like that, they're sacrificing a lot of potential damage.

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

Objection: Both Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden were great fun. The game was more outsmart the devs than legitimately kill the boss for the longest time and that is what made those fun.

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Outsmart as in the use of exploits and game glitches?

My FC and I are working diligently to get her down. I will probably cry genuine tears of joy when we do. I love the fight, it is so fun, but it is really challenging.

yeah i know the feeling spent about 7-9hrs on her sunday to have her at .57% then cry WTFFFFFFFF REALLY then a few more tries later we got her down it was well worth it im so happy :)

Most groups I have run with fail at snakes phase mostly due to failure at stacking up tightly for the 2nd set of divebombs. I've seen the blue boom maybe three times, and half the party dies. QQ. With not enough time to devote to a static group, I suspect I will be waiting for "easy mode" to finnaly down this fight :/

Getting her down to 60% is probably as far as we're getting for now, but the feeling I got from just that was amazing. This was also with just me and another guy in my static knowing the fight and we had to yell at everyone what to do, and our main tank was away so we had to improvise with the tanking.

Sounds like fun.

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Originally Posted by ninthfantasy

My FC and I are working diligently to get her down. I will probably cry genuine tears of joy when we do. I love the fight, it is so fun, but it is really challenging.

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Good luck!! I hope you guys get her down while the challenge is still there. :) Training wheels will be coming soon...

I'm also hoping my static can down her before the nerf. We don't have a lot of time to practice so it's slow going. Still wiping to the 1st fast conflag if not before then. Sigh*

When we got her down, I was cheering so loudly that my wife came out of her Art studio and tossed a house shoe at me. Lol. But needless to say, that win felt pretty good.

I was happier when I got my second kill. My first kill was me subbing for my FC's group 1 who already had it on farm. My second kill was actually a full pug, no one knew it eachother and it was meant to be a practice, but we killed her after a few attempts. the mumble was filled with cheers of joy and drama for like an hour and my headphones blasted when we got the kill lol..
later we formed and now we're a static group who has it on farm :)

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

Statment: This one's static was having the exact same problem until a few changes were made. One, have the DPS bring both Higeas (small snakes) to 50% only then focus fire Asclepeus (Big Snake). During the second Dive Bomb Phase, have your BLM(s) use Manawall and just eat a divebomb if targeted and continue to damage the Asclepeus while the rest of the group is kiting the divebombs off, be careful though as while the BLM is immune to the damage from the divebomb, the rest of the group is not if the BLM is targeted so position carefully.

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Thanks for the protip! My static is stuck on this part as well and we will try these methods during tonights practice.

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Originally Posted by BHolland

Now imagine an entire game like this...

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dark souls 2 is out in march :P

Wouldn't know, haven't downed her yet. I only know the feeling you get after spending hours with groups who can't get past dive bombs while you /facepalm every time your group fails.

I'm very much looking forward to killing Twintania as well. We're kind of stuck at divebombs right now, which is frustrating. >_<

I do wish there were more fights in the game like this though.