Join in progress feature in DF.

Why is it that when I tick Join in progress because i want to join in progress I get invites for new pt? Perhaps some people may want to join new pt but please could the feature be so if it is new party only if the join in progress is left unchecked or maybe there could be two checkboxs, one for new party and one for party in progress.

And how many would pick the "start a new party" instead of the "Join party in progress only" option if it exsisted? (hint: no one lol)
And how many parties would be in progress if there is no one to start them? (hint: 0)

In other words, it doesn't make sense to have "Join only parties in progress". Because then no one would be STARTING parties...

The tick is there to verify the player agrees to also join parties in progress, not to make sure he joins party in progress only.

They should change the text :

"In case someone is stuck in a duty missing party members I don't mind helping them"

even so people will still complain : Why can't I join just to roll for loot and kick everyone so I get everything?

If you get everything you will have nothing more to do.
If you have nothing more to do you will quit.
If you want everything so fast just quit playing it's the final ultimate end game.

No rest for the self-entitled, is there?

Serious question or is the brain farting OP?

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Originally Posted by Synapse

Serious question or is the brain farting OP?

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so when you are in duty and somebody leaves you would rather go through the rest of the duty without a replacement? i think not... also more often than not the replacement would have cancelled about 8 or 9 opportunities to start from the beginning.

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Originally Posted by Razzle

And how many would pick the "start a new party" instead of the "Join party in progress only" option if it exsisted? (hint: no one lol)
And how many parties would be in progress if there is no one to start them? (hint: 0)

In other words, it doesn't make sense to have "Join only parties in progress". Because then no one would be STARTING parties...

The tick is there to verify the player agrees to also join parties in progress, not to make sure he joins party in progress only.

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There are plenty of people who want to start from the beginning to get the loot of the first boss, if somebody drops after boss one plenty of people would want loot off boss 2 and so on. How many people want to fight the same bosses that dont drop the item 15 times to get to a last boss for him to not drop it again? hint: no one lol

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Originally Posted by Venom

There are plenty of people who want to start from the beginning

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Originally Posted by Venom

How many people want to fight the same bosses that dont drop the item 15 times to get to a last boss for him to not drop it again? hint: no one lol

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You do realize these are conflicting statements....right?

Boss 1 and 2 in CT take what? 15 minutes to complete? Tanks, which seem to be the only role that complains about the JiP feature get instant queues most of the time. So, to get to the point you want to be, it will take you 15 to 20 minutes. DPS have to wait for the queue to pop for 30+ minutes before starting at the beginning.

Seriously, just do the whole dungeon and stop complaining. If you're ok with an in progress group, tick it off and click to join. Declining 50 times in a row because you only want the last boss is annoying for everyone else trying to start a new group. If the DPS can wait for 30+ minutes for a pop, then you can spend 15-20 clearing the first 2 or 3 bosses.

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Originally Posted by Codek

You do realize these are conflicting statements....right?

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not conflicting if you don't just cut small segments from the whole statement. anybody can edit other peoples posts to make them look foolish. The point is plenty of people start from the beginning and don't complete the dungeon. People just seem to be missing the point. Some people want to join in progress so they do tick the box but get endless new parties. This isn't some kind of troll thread... it is a serious issue where when people tick in progress and 90% of these parties are not in progress.

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Originally Posted by Venom

not conflicting if you don't just cut small segments from the whole statement. anybody can edit other peoples posts to make them look foolish. The point is plenty of people start from the beginning and don't complete the dungeon.

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I'll take that as an agreement.

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Originally Posted by Venom

How many people want to fight the same bosses that dont drop the item 15 times to get to a last boss for him to not drop it again? hint: no one lol

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What about the people who DO want the items off the first bosses? Screw them with longer queues because some entitled ass does not want to put forth the effort to help others?

I check off in-progress to help groups that lost people because selfish pricks bailed after they did not get their drop on a early boss. I have been seeing this more and more in the last month. After damned near every boss we have to wait a bit and replace 2-3 (or more) people that jump ship.

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Originally Posted by necrosis

What about the people who DO want the items off the first bosses? Screw them with longer queues because some entitled ass does not want to put forth the effort to help others?

I check off in-progress to help groups that lost people because selfish pricks bailed after they did not get their drop on a early boss. I have been seeing this more and more in the last month. After damned near every boss we have to wait a bit and replace 2-3 (or more) people that jump ship.

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some people who want the item from first boss often just quit after first boss and then somebody joins who needs item from 2nd boss. this isnt screwing anybody..... plenty of people already doing that actually.

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Originally Posted by Razzle

And how many would pick the "start a new party" instead of the "Join party in progress only" option if it exsisted? (hint: no one lol)
And how many parties would be in progress if there is no one to start them? (hint: 0)

In other words, it doesn't make sense to have "Join only parties in progress". Because then no one would be STARTING parties...

The tick is there to verify the player agrees to also join parties in progress, not to make sure he joins party in progress only.

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I would. I very much enjoy starting from the very beginning with a new set of ppl. ;o I find that dropping into an in-progress party where you're suddenly supposed to be acclimatised to the others and instantly be ready for whatever they were in the middle of, is a bit disconcerting. However, of course that's just my opinion on it. Basically I would never join an in-progress party. Doesn't it make you wonder why that party would be seeking a replacement? To the extent that, I wonder what was going wrong for a person (or more) to leave. ;x Yes, sure, ppl d/c or just log off with no warning whatsoever, but I find that to be rare. :< In comparison, I prefer getting to know my party members from the start. *shrug* That's just me. :-)

I wish there was an option to skip farming entirely and just have a get "Get loot" button.

It's not possible. All it would take is too many healers or tanks selecting In Progress Only and the DF system would cease to function. Forming new parties would be almost impossible, creating a paradox where people are only trying to join existing parties, yet existing parties can't be created.

You could say plenty of people would make new parties, but we've all experienced tanks fishing for new parties. It exists. It's real.

you do realize tanks spamming find in progress queues until they get the exact progress they want is really screwing up duty finder for a lot of people?

It's actually getting severe enough to a point where they may even need to lower the info to simply "party in progress" without saying how far and adding a penalty for not accepting

The reason is because the feature in question, is an option to increase your chances of getting a party. It's not a feature to get rewards for doing one fight whilst the rest of the group would possibly get nothing for doing the entire dungeon.

If you don't have that box checked, you will only get new parties.

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Originally Posted by Nihility

you do realize tanks spamming find in progress queues until they get the exact progress they want is really screwing up duty finder for a lot of people?

It's actually getting severe enough to a point where they may even need to lower the info to simply "party in progress" without saying how far and adding a penalty for not accepting

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Honestly what they need to do to stop this is not show progress, not show which roles have said they are ready (just the white icon as with an in progress option) and have a penalty much more severe than a 30 min lock out if they drop instantly.