The REAL Real Problem with SE

They don't delete/lock all the crybaby posts titled something along the lines of "The Problem with SE".

Srsly, why don't all you post in the same thread about your problems so 99% of the General Discussion board isn't covered in your hater crap. If you don't like the game SO MUCH that you have to create another complaining thread that five other people have made, unsub.

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Originally Posted by BrandoH

They don't delete/lock all the crybaby posts titled something along the lines of "The Problem with SE".

Srsly, why don't all you post in the same thread about your problems so 99% of the General Discussion board isn't covered in your hater crap. If you don't like the game SO MUCH that you have to create another complaining thread that five other people have made, unsub.

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So they can make a post about unsubbing. We can't win this one.

Pot to the kettle.

/10 char

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Originally Posted by Despite

Pot to the kettle.

/10 char

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^^^^^^^^^^ this

Hypocrisy is rampant on these forums, why expect anything different?

Just going to leave this here:

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Originally Posted by BrandoH

If you don't like the game SO MUCH that you have to create another complaining thread that five other people have made, unsub.

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Corrected, to show the paradox of this (dare I say it?) complaint.

People who complain are people who feel strongly enough to do so.
People who just plainly dislike the game, and had no great expectation for it, don't complain. They just (as you suggest) unsub.


Now consider the hundreds of people who complained about one thing or another at some point, on the forums.
Be it about content, the lack of it, the too hard or to easy difficulty, the technical problems, the community, the music, the amount of miqo'te characters, the lockouts, the removal of lockouts, or even the color of armors...

Do you really wish all those people to stop playing/giving their money to the company developing and running your game?


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Originally Posted by BrandoH

^ This guy knows.

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The fact that there is little moderation on these forums and that the form of said complaints (and replies to them) isn't always apropriate doesn't change the paradox (and probable thoughtless-ness) of the OP message.

OP is wrong. The REAL problem with S-E is that they aren't Squaresoft anymore. ;)

They have been putting out worse games after they merged.

I think people who complain a lot seldom ever go about it constructively. There's no "I don't like this feature, could you change it?", it's usually "This feature sucks, so I'm going to threaten to unsub in an attempt that you care enough about the business of an individual person of minimal industry importance until you get rid of it."

It's extremely discourteous, rude, and assumes a hell of a lot. The game has problems and not everyone thinks the problems with the game are the same. On the one hand, there are people who are complaining, right now, that 2.2's content is completely invalidating all the work that had been done by them in 2.1 whereas many people in 2.1 and prior have often complained about how they've literally done everything there is to do in the game and there's no point in playing. There are some people who are crying foul about the rebalancing of content to better suit lower-skilled players, whereas before that, people were also complaining that much of the content was way too hard.

...and in at least 99% of instances I have seen in this forum, at least one person says they're going to unsub.

Now I don't have a problem with people having problems with the game. That's natural. But it's the way they go about conveying their problems that just screams immature and childish that I just don't appreciate, and if BioWare's community forums are any indication, I'm pretty sure that the immature and childish nature of the posts complaining about things is the singular reason why community reps seldom, if ever, post or even look in General Discussion. Their attention is mainly divided between Technical Support, Bug Reports, and the Event forums, because those are usually the most important boards in the entire forum to ensure the game is functioning properly for everyone.

But since this is post is more than two sentences long and doesn't contain any indicators of blinding rage, such as excessive use of caps or exclamation marks, I bet most folks will just ignore this entire post. Still posting it anyway because I don't feel like deleting it, though.

^ This guy knows.

Yo.

Hater thread? Ignore. It will eventually get buried. Responding in any way just adds to it. The ppl that DO post in it most likely share that poster's mentality. They can go ahead and complain to each other.
As for so many complaint threads it buries the ones that actually should get some attention-- this is where SE's forum moderation is severely lacking. It's just how things are. They're not going to change anything unless it directly affects their revenue, and there's no way the vast majority of ppl are going to stop FFXIV based on whining that seem abundantly rampant across these boards.

As it is though, general discussion is less that, and more a place to submit irrational, and illogical grievances in the supposed form of "suggestions" that are clearly non-constructive. It's effectively destroyed much of the charm this franchise has, and I'm sure for that reason alone lots of players make an effort to avoid this place.

Edit: HakuroDK's observations are pretty much spot on.

Two things. One is that there are well thought out and good constructive criticism posts out there and two it was the weekend so you got a bunch of people spewing nonsense from more traffic on the boards.

Ignore them. They'll either unsubscribe from the game or suck it up and keep playing.

Please don't be mean to the things I like, it makes me feel insecure that I might be invested too much in a thing that others perceive as imperfect and I'm a perfect human bean so I'll keep saying the thing I like is flawless, look at how cool and collected I am by taking the opposite side of the argument against these haters, it clearly gives me the moral highground and instantly makes me right and the best person, maybe one day I'll shake one of the team's hand.