Job specific mount

Yoshi-P said we gonna get a mount next patch. /joy

He didn't actually say that - he said something like 'if it seems like tanks are still being ignored after the next patch they'll consider adding a Job mount for tanks'. Considering everywhere I turn I see plenty of PLDs and WARs in AF2, there's clearly not a shortage of tanks (and for the record, my main is PLD, so I don't need such a carrot-on-a-stick to encourage me to tank, I do it because I love GLA/PLD). :)

DPS wait 2 hours to que up
Healers can wait as little as 30 mins
Tanks almost ALWAYS que up instantly.

There is definately a high demand for tanks. A few have AF gear, but does that mean they play on those classes? Not really. I use my Scholar to do dungeon runs and I am going to use my Tomes to buy Summoner Gear since Summoner is my main class and I do Scholar since Healer is faster to get into than DPS.

A mount will not make me start on the tank jobs though. I don't like them and the mount won't be enough of an appeal to start them. If we get a DoM Tank I'll reconsider slightly. May raise it but I'll never use it for group play.

All people will do is level the tank for the mount and then go back to playing their regular class.

IF the mount is included at all, since it wasn't a definite statement. OP this is how bad information starts.

well there will be alot of more tanks just remember that they will be new and cut them some slack

A lot of these bandwagon tanks just don't have the common sense and mentality to play the role of a tank, and I'd rather they stop and go play a different class than continue to give tanks in general bad rep and hate. It's nothing more than a demotivater for the rest of us to just drop the job altogether and go play something that isn't looked at with so much scrutiny and disdain under a magnifying glass. Just look at what CT attracts on a regular basis: A veritable cesspool of some of the worst tanks and trolls imaginable.

So please, don't incentivize every player to hop on tank just to make our lives worse.

So I'm assuming you are smartish and don't want the GOOD dps/heals to swap to tank. That makes no sense. But if someone is bad at heal/dps can you trust them to tank well? Nope. SO who gets to tank then? The people who already are... Those who are bad and are too slow to realize that they are bad, Those that are good and enjoy the class. The mounts will change nothing. Tanking is just not as popular as healing or DPS because it is somewhat a thankless role (though my recommendations somewhat disagree...), it doesn't have meters or tangible records of how well they are doing. So people don't like it because it's not really self validating all that easy. Mount... won't help.

IF they make a tank specific mount, it would be a nice gesture and a hat tip to the role.

Should they do it, I think it would be great to have it potentially as a result of getting a certain commendation amount. Then again, they'd have to split up the commendations received based on the role you got them in (DPS, tank or healer). Which would require a rework and zero-out of existing commends. Possible, but not probable.

But it would still be a nice gulf-clap acknowledgement to tanks in general. And then turned in to a slap in the face if anyone could use it in any role.

Just my two-cents on a rumor/potential-being-thrown-around thread.

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Originally Posted by AlrikRouge

Should they do it, I think it would be great to have it potentially as a result of getting a certain commendation amount.

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Given how they added the unicorn for CNJ, I think it's a lot more likely that they think that class specific mounts should be based off of class levels. Of course, the problem that I have with this is that you get the unicorn at 30, when you can become a WHM (earlier, in fact, if you haven't leveled up ACN yet) which prevents it from really being a "healer" mount because it's not available to SCH, and only requires you get to level 30, which is ridiculously easy to do (before you even get your full suite of abilities even).

What would work better would be adding a new tank mount but have it require level 50 in either GLA or MRD (or completion of the level 50 WAR or PLD job quest) and then require completing certain content as a tank, such that it's more like a "relic mount" than a "role mount" (armored Warhorse for PLD; battle bear for WAR). Have it require beating all of the Ex primals (or whatever the equivalent would be) as a PLD or WAR and you'd see a lot more people flocking to tanking to start gearing up for the content and actually *do* the content. You can't really beat the Ex primals as a tank without knowing how to tank so it would actually require people to learn how to tank in order to get it. Once someone has learned how to tank and geared up the role, there is a much stronger chance that they'll continue to tank than if they haven't since there's the investment already.

Even so, offering a job/role mount is probably one of the least effective ways to encourage people to play tanks. It's a one-off benefit so people could just complete it and never touch tanking again. The most effective mechanisms need to require people to regularly perform the role, like the "needed role" bonuses, or offer an entirely new experience (e.g. new classes/jobs).

While I would like a class specific mount (why did the conjurer get one?!?! wtf!?! rawr) it really wouldn't help the situation. Instead of tanks being around the level 40 range as Yoshi quoted it would be tanks around the 50 range, assuming that's when you unlock the mount. Being a tank is a thankless job and more often than not we gather hate from enemies and real hate from party members alike. Just think back to some of your worst ct runs and you get the picture.

Besides the instant que times is the bonus of being a tank in my book. But I really hate when some people abuse it.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

which prevents it from really being a "healer" mount because it's not available to SCH...

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That's because they only needed to incentivize people to get to level 30 as the ONLY healing class pre-30. Once you get to the 30+ dungeons, there are 2 healing classes to queue up instead of one. So actually the level 30 req does make it the "healing" mount because you played the only pre-30 healer to the point they needed you to : D

This time, they want to incentivize tanks to do stuff like WP and AK and Haukke HM and CM etc, so they will probably have to make it something like a mount that costs 2000 Philo tomes that is only purchasable after you get an achievement unlock of getting a tank Job to level 50.

All that non-sense aside. What do you think it would be?!!? Maybe like a big mountain bear for warriors and a Warsteed for the Paladin?

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Originally Posted by Ehayte

a Warsteed for the Paladin?

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i hope not :(, i mean it makes perfect sense and would be cool i just think we got the tank AF chocobo armor for the "warsteed" role, so giveing us a armored horse is umm blah. But again it makes sense

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Originally Posted by stanrir

i hope not :(, i mean it makes perfect sense and would be cool i just think we got the tank AF chocobo armor for the "warsteed" role, so giveing us a armored horse is umm blah. But again it makes sense

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Good point - maybe PLDs can get 2.0 WARs as their mounts . . . since that was pretty much the relationship back then.

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Originally Posted by stanrir

i hope not :(, i mean it makes perfect sense and would be cool i just think we got the tank AF chocobo armor for the "warsteed" role, so giveing us a armored horse is umm blah. But again it makes sense

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Its probably gonna be a turtle or something:\

I want a lion mount for paladin, its a noble animal and paladin is a noble job. Plus lions are badass.

Or, you could just make a tank class that appeal to a different crowd than the current tanks.

DoM tank sounds awesome in my mind. Either heavy armor mage, or robe wearing class that depends on buffing magic to stay alive. Maybe even tanking by summoning illusions and disoriented mobs to reduce incoming damage.

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Originally Posted by megaman

I want a lion mount for paladin, its a noble animal and paladin is a noble job. Plus lions are badass.

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Spoiler alert: Nobility is a status inferred upon the lion by misguided animal lovers, it is no more noble than a house cat is noble.

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Originally Posted by WhaleBiologist

Spoiler alert: Nobility is a status inferred upon the lion by misguided animal lovers, it is no more noble than a house cat is noble.

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That's okay, I'm a little biased anyways since lions are my favorite animal :D. I just think it'd be freaking awesome to charge into battle on a lion (I doubt it'd ever happen) but hey I can dream right?

How about a tank mount that we can use during battle.

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Originally Posted by WhaleBiologist

Spoiler alert: Nobility is a status inferred upon the lion by misguided animal lovers, it is no more noble than a house cat is noble.

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Well, they are pretty despotic...

Big numbers that DPS can generate is always more entertaining than tanking for many players. I have tanked in several games and I love tanking and plan to do it here on my Warrior when I hit 50 and then probably my Paladin. I find Warrior more fun, but I really like the look of Paladin gear and swords. I will probably have both maxed before too long. As far as a mount, maybe it can be less a mount and more like clas specific Barding for the Warrior and Paladin respectively. I love the chocobo, and ride it more often then not.

I think there are three reasons why people don't play tank classes:

1. You need to understand dungeons before you enter. You need to know boss mechanics and trash pulls. This isn't hard, but people are really lazy.
2. You cannot zone out and follow the crowd while playing a tank (except ct :P)
3. People have high expectations for tanks, if you die or make a mistake people freak out because it often wipes the party. Meanwhile DPS can die 2-3 times per fight and no one says anything. Much less stressful.

A tank mount should be an actual tank, with tracks and a turret and everything!

I think a great incentive to get folks to level a tanking job would be to arrange things so they always get quick entry in duty finder queues!

...owait, we already have that... and it STILL hasn't encouraged more folks to level tanks... No, I don't think a mount is gonna cut it.

(That said, I wouldn't turn up my nose at a new mount. :3)