Exponential increase of trolls in CT

I noticed, that in the last 2 weeks, the troll groups from CT has increased exponentially, it's becoming impossible to reach KB and making this, the most raid dungeon ever. More than Twintania

It's something we can do against this?, like reporting all 8 from the troll group?

You take a full hour as healer to CT duty and find everytime you try it, trolls ruin it.

Don't queue alone and it'll never take that long. But yes, you can report everyone in the troll group if you want.

Just another aspect of human nature .. the fact that jerks exist everywhere .. that SE totally failed to take into account when designing this fail of a raid-group-building system.

Don't worry SE is working on it, I just got back from 2 week ban, I aint trolling CT EVER AGAIN

Maybe they need to work on the commendation system a bit more and make it so being nice is more fruitful .

or implement another side to the reputation system....like negative votes, or the option to avoid playing with that person in the future. if they were on an avoid list, they'd find it harder and harder to find queues as their trolling continues and people begin to add them to their "do not play with this guy" list.

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Originally Posted by odie

or implement another side to the reputation system....like negative votes, or the option to avoid playing with that person in the future. if they were on an avoid list, they'd find it harder and harder to find queues as their trolling continues and people begin to add them to their "do not play with this guy" list.

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Negative votes would be abused by trolls.
An avoid list would be nice though, but it could also backfire so that you're the one not getting into a group instead of the one you want to avoid.

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Originally Posted by Narcissus

Don't worry SE is working on it, I just got back from 2 week ban, I aint trolling CT EVER AGAIN

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2 weeks that's harsh but for a good cause.

There aren't more trolls, the game's full of them.
Most are dorment but under the right conditions they wake up and get up in yo' face.
Not cool.

CT brings out the worst in everyone.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

CT brings out the worst in everyone.

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I must agree, I do not consider myself a quiter but CT was the first and only dungeon where I decided that it was worth the 30 minute penalty.

Roll on 24 man premades.

Anyone know if this is coming in 2.2? Maybe I'll ask in general live letter questions :o

Last Night was the first time ive had any trouble in CT I was actually booted from the dungeon because my war had less then 8K hp, now mind you I've main tanked the entire thing when no one else would step up but the level of douchebaggery in CT has increased to a point I don't even like to run it anymore. Whether it's the troll who runs ahead of everyone and locks them out or people telling you that you suck even though the only gear they have is a +1 relic and their normal AF, it's just not worth it anymore.

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Originally Posted by Grailer

Maybe they need to work on the commendation system a bit more and make it so being nice is more fruitful .

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Agreed. This sounds like a solution.

( Please look forward to it. )

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Originally Posted by Fadigre

There aren't more trolls, the game's full of them.
Most are dorment but under the right conditions they wake up and get up in yo' face.
Not cool.

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LOL.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

CT brings out the worst in everyone.

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Cause it's based on the worst system ever.

Faceroll mechanics that can be done while taking a nap (literally, almost =P) yet suceptible to wipes caused by -notsosmart- people (or trolls). Long and annoying. Boring due to the earlier reasons and little rewards as those items are really well, they are not worth it. Capped system (that's ok) + shitty rewards = Meh! If you add to that a glitched system where you might accidentally get locked out because well, you didn't do anything too fast and everyone dropped.

PUGs finders are very bad for large groups, they are already bad for small groups (4 here, 5 anyone?). Now multiply that by 6. You get 6 times the shittiness that you had! (Oh yeah math! :P)

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Originally Posted by Tyvek

Last Night was the first time ive had any trouble in CT I was actually booted from the dungeon because my war had less then 8K hp

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Really? 8K is way more than you should ever need in CT. I've tanked everything in there easily at 7.5k. Even King Behemoth can be tanked easily with 7K hp, and half competent healers.

Recently ran a ct with our friend who was a new 50 but we were truly apprehensive because of the troll issue. He got lucky and we had a smooth quiet run. But will it be next time, had 2 trolly runs before this one.
It makes u wonder if it is worth it at all.

Try to get your CT runs in as early as possible. In my experience, the longer you hold off running CT from each week's reset the more likely you'll get the troll groups. This has been especially true for the Friday through Sunday experience as the majority of them have their loot but are in thre for easy tomes or helping a friend out.

Also, a lot of people want to talk trash in alliance chat. This needs to stop. Trash talk just creates opportunities for people to troll.

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Originally Posted by Aethaeryn

Don't queue alone and it'll never take that long. But yes, you can report everyone in the troll group if you want.

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Not true. I spent well over an hour in queue with a full group.

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Originally Posted by Grailer

Maybe they need to work on the commendation system a bit more and make it so being nice is more fruitful .

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This is human nature, SE can't fix people that are so bored and depressed with their lives they need to troll in a video game.

The troll groups are actually happening because of this:

http://i.imgur.com/aWegkeZ.jpg

and this:

http://i.imgur.com/Xqd55HB.png.

They troll in order to meet these objectives.

I don't even know how anyone can enjoy it after a few runs.. As a tank my job is usually dummed down to either clicking a tower during behemoth fight or watching for claws in the last fight.. Just so boring :\

Was there ever a good reason as to why we can't simply queue for CT with an entire premade alliance? Is that supposed to be an option in the future?

I'm a tad surprised they didn't have that an option from the beginning since they obviously know how to make that work (XI dynamis, abyssea, etc..). Are they afraid the loot system would somehow be abused? Maybe I'm dense, but I'm failing to see how that could be done with the strict 1-item per week rule.

Newest big thing in CT: During holy the whm from one team spams medica and the giants from both the pts run off coked and lobbed to death to go fight said whm's pt only to have the pt with the giants yelling at the alliance about hate.. Fun times..

PLEASE...SE...let us have a full pre-made 24 person group. No more trolling! No more waiting for queue.

Have one of you ever considered the causes of this? I've noticed something that could be the cause of CT wipes: people don't take the time to explain the fights anymore.
Do you want some facts that probe this:
*Wipes on the first boss because dps stack skeletons or tanks do not position them well
*Ppl that die because the eliptic meteor on KB
and so on
When this happen and ppl start diying, some players begin to get angry and some other start trolling as well
Please, take the time to explain fights and this will be no more a problem. The first "generation" of adventurers that lurked CT since the begining stopped doing CT because they already got their full gear. These people were the same ones that taught the second generation how to run CT, now that the third generation is running CT, the second is rushing and doesnt care to explain the third one, so one or other began to troll due to the frustration for not being able to complete the dungeon

Last run I did of CT , people were spamming abandon ship , someone was trolling , healer was semi afk for entire run but was typing trash talk in chat instead of healing . We completed the run but I really didn't enjoy the experience at all tbh.

People are getting bored...