Nightmare Mount Drop Rate higher on Ifrit-EX ?

I've done over 70 runs of Garuda-EX by now - have 4/5 rings and have never once seen the Nightmare whistle drop here.

I haven't done Titan-Ex as much yet, but have not seen it drop there yet either.

Within my first 15 wins of Ifrit-EX, I've seen the Nightmare whistle drop 3 times already.

Anyone know if there is a higher drop rate on Ifrit-EX for the mount or noticed a similar trend?

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. If Ifrit is the toughest and it still has a reasonably low drop rate, sounds like it would be the most fair way to distribute a prize based on skill and luck.

I still have yet to do the EX Primals. No one in my FC is ready for them.

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Originally Posted by Skyhound

I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. If Ifrit is the toughest and it still has a reasonably low drop rate, sounds like it would be the most fair way to distribute a prize based on skill and luck.

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Titan-EX is really the hardest of the 3 EX primals but Ifrit is the last one to unlock, so I'm guessing if there are differences in the drop rate, the rate would increase more for later primals in the chain.

Seen 3 mounts drop from Ifrit, but none from the other 2.

I have indeed noticed a higher rate on Ifrit, seen 5. Garuda I've seen 4 and Titan I've seen 1. Probably all the same drop rate and we're just being paranoid though :P

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Originally Posted by zPanda

I've done over 70 runs of Garuda-EX by now - have 4/5 rings and have never once seen the Nightmare whistle drop here.

I haven't done Titan-Ex as much yet, but have not seen it drop there yet either.

Within my first 15 wins of Ifrit-EX, I've seen the Nightmare whistle drop 3 times already.

Anyone know if there is a higher drop rate on Ifrit-EX for the mount or noticed a similar trend?

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Observation: Having merc'd many EX primals, this one finds the most drops from Ifrit/Garuda.

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Originally Posted by AdamuKun322

I still have yet to do the EX Primals. No one in my FC is ready for them.

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You really contributed to this discussion!

On topic: I've seen it twice from ifrit and once from titan in over 200 runs. Seems like a really low drop rate. ; ;

lmao^
I've seen it drop 5 times from ifrit, 0 from the others.

I've seen it once in garuda and I've been farming her since 2.1 release. ;~;

Same exact chance as everything else. The drop rate is as normal as any ring/earrings/bracelet from the 3 primals. I have seen it drop from Garuda 6 times in 50-65 kills.

Mine dropped at titan ex... but I rolled a pathetic "7" on it..

seens 2 in titan, 3 in garuda, 1 in ifrit

source : have been clearing and helping primalx for weeks

been doing since 2.1, garuda killed over 80 times and seen twice. titan and ifrit, probably 30-40 kills each, never seen mount from them. i saw mount in one of my first garuda kills, and then once again yesterday, and i rolled one number lower than another person. i wish i knew him url so i could key his car or make out with his girlfriend. hopefully he washes his hands

killed garuda 140 times and never saw it once :(

im the worst unlucky one in eorzea

then i really gave up on getting it

I personally feel the same, i have farmed titan for my item maybe ~20 times, but no nightmare. Ifrit definitely lesser than 20, but i have seen it 3 or 4 times.

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Originally Posted by Kimura410

been doing since 2.1, garuda killed over 80 times and seen twice. titan and ifrit, probably 30-40 kills each, never seen mount from them. i saw mount in one of my first garuda kills, and then once again yesterday, and i rolled one number lower than another person. i wish i knew him url so i could key his car or make out with his girlfriend. hopefully he washes his hands

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I got worse then this... Im myself at about 150 garuda kills,( took me 29 solo heal attempt for ring after being outrolled 6 times). About 20 titan kills and 70 ifrits. Havent seen it drop once and im still farming because i miss caster ear and bracer and healer ear... Getting really boring or always doing those.

I wish we had confirmed numbers. Bump btw. Major bump.

Well this explains my confusion at poster #3. I hope they eventually got to do them. :D

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Originally Posted by zPanda

I've done over 70 runs of Garuda-EX by now - have 4/5 rings and have never once seen the Nightmare whistle drop here.

Within my first 15 wins of Ifrit-EX, I've seen the Nightmare whistle drop 3 times already.

Anyone know if there is a higher drop rate on Ifrit-EX for the mount or noticed a similar trend?

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I don't think there is(but I could definitely be wrong) a different percentage to see it drop in one over the other, but in my experience, it can take FOREVER to get the Nightmare Whistle since I did 200 runs of Garuda as PLD, and 120 as DRK before I finally got mine. Not to mention that I also did HUNDREDS of runs of Ifrit EX, Titan EX, and Garuda EX before HW to get all the ARR primal mounts(only was missing Nightmare until like 2months ago).

Your best bet, if you are wanting to tank mounts also - not the SB ones, the other ones that require 200 runs of EX primals, or the Alexander raid stuff - to join a tank mount farm, it's usually Garuda, and you kill her in less than 5min on average.

Garuda ... you die so quick... i not had time to say hi to u xDD

My personal experience has been that Nightmare drops more often in Titan Ex. I've been in multiple groups where 2 had dropped in about an hour of farming. Never seen it in Garuda or Ifrit.

Wait theres a special extra mount which can drop from ARR ex primals?

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

Wait theres a special extra mount which can drop from ARR ex primals?

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Yeah , nightmare . The darkpony before be a primal pony. Drop in garuda ex , ifrit ex and titan ex ( got mine long time ago in titan ex)

we tried to get the Ifrit pony for a newbie in our FC and we got 2 Nightmare before the Ifrit pony dropped

I think Ifrit does drop the nightmare more often than the others. Fortunately Ifrit is the easiest fight.

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Originally Posted by Zarabeth

I think Ifrit does drop the nightmare more often than the others. Fortunately Ifrit is the easiest fight.

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I will have to strongly disagree with you on that. Ifrit you still have to watch out, and stop DPS at certain points due to the nails auto-wipe point. Garuda, even if you drop her below the amount when the adds spawn, you can massacre her and only those that aren't level 70 in the unsynced group won't survive(tanks lower than 70 mostly survive too).

I've done about 15 or so runs of ex primals and have yet to see the nightmare whistle drop once. I do have the first three ponies though xD

But yeah, I can't say much on the drop rate other than its still low.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

My personal experience has been that Nightmare drops more often in Titan Ex. I've been in multiple groups where 2 had dropped in about an hour of farming. Never seen it in Garuda or Ifrit.

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I've never seen it on Titan or Garuda but have lost the roll twice on Ilfrit.

I randomly got mine from a quick Ifrit WT run. The one and only time I have seen it drop.

I was farming Garuda, and the second solo farm it dropped for me. :) I find when I solo the Ex's the horse either drops on the first or second time solo for me. When I grouped it took forever =/ Done now at least.

I'm not inclined to think it's any more common in one fight than the others.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I'm not inclined to think it's any more common in one fight than the others.

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It isn't, random will be random. Different people have different experiences with it though, obviously.

it took me about a year to get nightmare and I got from garuda I never saw it in titan ex or ifrit ex

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Originally Posted by Avatre

I will have to strongly disagree with you on that. Ifrit you still have to watch out, and stop DPS at certain points due to the nails auto-wipe point. Garuda, even if you drop her below the amount when the adds spawn, you can massacre her and only those that aren't level 70 in the unsynced group won't survive(tanks lower than 70 mostly survive too).

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As a 70 PLD I completely ignore the first two nail phases and burn Ifrit. The only ones I bother to kill are on the last one because he will stay immune permanently while continuously spamming his aoe. It requires a little extra healing after each of the first two aoes, but it's not like I would be doing anything else right then as he is still immune for a few seconds. As for the hardest ex primal to solo now (aside from King Mog) for me it would either be Ramuh because the (relatively) lower tank dps on the adds coupled with all the running around and dodging lightning orbs (which he always seems to put right on top of the adds) makes him a pain in the behind, or possibly Titan because just standing around doing nothing during Goal absolutely kills me.

I've got all the primal ponies and both times I've seen the Nightmare drop, it has been from Ifrit. In fact, I saw both Nightmares from him before I saw Aithon. By doing the primals in a random order and skipping the ones once I got the pony from them- I dropped Boreas first (actually on my first Shiva run,) then Gullfaxi, then Markab, then Nightmare, then Xanthos, then a loooong stretch of nothing before I finally got Enbarr and Aithon.

I don't know if they changed the drop rates since ARR, but it was easy to keep track of as I was soloing primals to get the PLD lvl 50 8-man dungeon mount, but I got all 7 ponies in under fifty runs.

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Originally Posted by Rymm

As a 70 PLD I completely ignore the first two nail phases and burn Ifrit. The only ones I bother to kill are on the last one because he will stay immune permanently while continuously spamming his aoe. It requires a little extra healing after each of the first two aoes, but it's not like I would be doing anything else right then as he is still immune for a few seconds.

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How? If you get him to 30% before the second nail phase pops, he enrages and will continue to just spam Hellfire until everyone is dead. Same for if you hit 12% before the third set pop up. Even at i337 (and 35k HP), he still brings me down to 1/3 of my health per Hellfire. Unless, you mean, making a mad dash to just kill him before he kills you with that second cast of Hellfire? :x

Nevermind, I'm an idiot. That's actually pretty nice that you can just ignore the first two.

I've seen more nightmares drop in Titan Extreme than Ifrit or Garuda, to the point that I originally thought that was the primal's mount and not gullfaxi. I think I'd seen around 7 or 8 nightmares on Titan, 3 on Garuda, 1 on Ifrit and 2 gullfaxi. Of all the 2.x series primals, I've spent the least amount of time in Titan.

Also, unlike all of the other steeds, nightmare's drop rate was never increased, so it's still some 1% or 2% (the others were around an estimated 10% to 12%).

I've never seen it drop once, even in a farm party.

I've seen it drop more times in Garuda than the other two. But then again I also don't do the others unless I have to for WT. Saw it rain whistles when I did Garuda tank mount farms for all three tanks during HW. For a 3% drop rate, that horse showed up more often than Zurvan's bird even when his whistle drop rate was boosted.