Remove the Kick option

Its apparent that people are using it for all the wrong reasons, if you go and read there is a ton of topics about people being kicked for stupid reasons its causing problems.

It was supposed to be for afk or people who fell asleep.

I have a new option other than the kick, if the person doesn't move for 1 minute and 30 seconds they are auto kicked, this way nobody has the power to kick anymore and you don't need to worry about complaints.

I cannot tell you how many people I have seen go into a dungeon set on follow and go afk, or sit in the start of a place dancing, or some other lame crap just so they can get something for nothing. I for one think the vote kick is working fine. The vote kick is no less a functional tool due to its misuse.

I completely agree that Vote-Kick needs to be removed. It's just being abused right now by everyone while people used to figure things out.

You're new to the fight? Kick
You dont know the fight very well? Kick
You make one trivial mistake? Kick
Another person fails but blames you? Kick
You mention you are looking for item X, and do does another player? Kick
Someone doesnt like your face? Kick
Your gear is perfectly capable of finishing the dungeon, just not "great" ? Kick
You mention in the party you have to AFK for a minute for a legitimate and important reason? Kick
Through no fault of your own there are duplicate jobs that will hurt the Limit Break build-up? Kick

For every One legitimate kick for someone being AFK... there's atleast 30 kicks that should not have been made possible.

Remove Vote-Kicking entirely. And i propose if an individual troubles you or is AFK, call a GM on them and he will remove the person for you from the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by SafetyHippo

I cannot tell you how many people I have seen go into a dungeon set on follow and go afk, or sit in the start of a place dancing, or some other lame crap just so they can get something for nothing. I for one think the vote kick is working fine. The vote kick is no less a functional tool due to its misuse.

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Then that would also be easy, can't auto follow while in dungeon. If SE can eliminate those two things and people going afk or falling asleep and taking that kick option away and setting it to auto kick would rather have that then some abusing players who think they own the dungeon everyone flags up for duty finder this does not give them a right to remove said person from having fun and people need to learn the dungeon also.

Yeah I seen that Surian.

Also playstation 3 player kick. You didn't dodge Aoe kick then they leave dungeon causing people to leave to and we were almost done with dungeon wasting my time.
my cousin was kicked right before they got to toneberry for myth tomes in wandering palace.
I seen someone kick someone for getting a piece of gear they wanted.
its out of hand seriously, now I know why SE doesn't give us good things because of people ruining them for all the wrong reasons.

I totally disagree with OP. It is a very useful function when used properly. For instance, roulette put me in a party with a 47 GLA, 50 WHM and 50 MNK. The WHM started saying how because the Tank didn't have any blue gear he wasn't prepared to go any further than the starting zone and would sit out until we finished the dungeon without him. We kicked him because he was discriminating against somebody for their choice of gear. That's unsporting. Second was myself being roulette'd into a low level dungeon with a 40 GLA, 37 CNJ and 43 ARC. The Tank would not pull any mobs or use any tank specific skills like Flash or Provoke, no matter how many times we tried to talk to him or get his attention he wouldn't respond and was acting very peculiar and erratic. On inspection he had i20 gear so the party came to the conclusion of a bot controlled character who was being levelled on behalf of the owner. Maybe we were acting too hastily but a tank not using any emnity based skills isn't much use.

47 which means you were doing the vale which is a low level I did this with a low gear level with a good weapon before roulette even started.

Because this isn't a high level roulette if he was 47 he cant join them because its 50 and some require high level gear just to be highlighted.

You adding that he was a bot was you sure about that 100% or you just saying that to save the option to kick because you are one of those people who judge people using parser's because its started to sound like that.

You guys should not even have this much power if its abused, for the people who use parser's as well and judge people its funny how you guys were the same at one time because now you have three level 50's all of a sudden you are better than people who started the game.

Because you don't want fail two or three times trying to beat a boss you kick by examining others gear and DPS which is wrong cause they wanna play also, this game wasn't built around you remember that.

This is getting off subject and do not want to start fighting over this-

Moderator lock topic please thanks.

Moderator should lock this cause it's not feedback about the website, which is what this section is, aside from any other reasons.

Its actually called feedback & suggestions, I am making a suggestion about removing kick. should I have made it in general?

Just to add more reasons not to remove vote kick. Today in CT a tank was using provoke to turn mobs/bosses toward the dps and heals so they would die. Without vote kick we would have had to deal with him until he A. Left or B. We vote abandoned. SO in your system we 17 people would have to sacrifice our time and effort for the sake of one persons trolling. SO no votekick saved the day again.

If people are abusing the vote kick feature you report them. By not doing so you allow them to get away with what they did so they can do it to others. This feature works fine and I prefer it stay here

Will not be removed, SHOULD not be removed. those who abuse it will be punished, plain and simple. What they need to change is the anonymity of it. not being able to see who initiates it for no good reason is dumb and does not allow us to see who exactly is abusing it. At least in CT its anonymous but not sure about others as ive never seen it before. Since its been implemented ive only seen 1 case of abuse. I have seen 20-30 cases where it has been used for its correct functions.

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

Its actually called feedback & suggestions, I am making a suggestion about removing kick. should I have made it in general?

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Read the sticky here, it's clearly website feedback and suggestions, ie: feedback and suggestions about the forum website.

And yes, you probably should put it in general, though idk, with how many people there are that have posted game issues here SE may be aware to look here for suggestions like this, hard to say.

I have seen a player kicked 6 times. So far 3 times it was justified because they were afk for a long time, being abusive, and simply cursed at fellow members. The other 3 times it was abused. Once because a player was new and didn't know how to tank, another time was because this player wanted to run the dungeon notmal mode without speed run, the other players wanted to speed run and the last was because this player didn't have a relic in WP. So it is mixed reviews on my end.

I completely agree with you. Kicks should only be used if the player is AFK or DCs.
I've been kicked so many times because I was new to the dungeon and there were mistakes made by other players but the blame always go to me... all because I usually queue with the worst type of human beings mostly toxic people of the same FC or friends who does not blame each other but the outcast. When a member of their FC dies a bunch of times its all "cool beans" and forgiven, when I die I get insults that lead to a kick after my second death. It would be nice if people could report players who frames other players to get them kicked...

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

Its apparent that people are using it for all the wrong reasons, if you go and read there is a ton of topics about people being kicked for stupid reasons its causing problems.

It was supposed to be for afk or people who fell asleep.

I have a new option other than the kick, if the person doesn't move for 1 minute and 30 seconds they are auto kicked, this way nobody has the power to kick anymore and you don't need to worry about complaints.

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Terrible Suggestion. That means No Bio Breaks, even for FC runs.