Internet speed/ping check for duties

I don't even know if something like this is possible but i'd like to see what people think of it.

In many high level duties where not dodging an attack is not an option in like say... Titan's landslide just as an example, people can't dodge attacks because to their testimony, their internet is ether too slow or their ping is too high. Is it possible to implement a speed check of some kind in the duty finder? Kind of like gear level check?

It's a kind of discrimination that SE probably won't take on.

And if you've ever played on a further data center you'll know sometimes that latency is just there. Since SE officially caters to the EU people using their US datacenter, such a discrimination would be a slap on their own face, so I think it's very unlikely.

...In-game latency check?

Oh my, that's hilarious.

Yes, let's ban out anyone with over 200 ping even though there are many who play and dodge just fine with that latency or higher. /sarcasm

Well atleast if they blame lag for dying you can actually check if they were lagging :p

I dodge just fine with 200 ping, the problem is that you believe people when they say they can't dodge due to lag.

Just stop expecting quality in the DF it's like licking a lightbulb at this point.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

I dodge just fine with 200 ping, the problem is that you believe people when they say they can't dodge due to lag.

Just stop expecting quality in the DF it's like licking a lightbulb at this point.

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Seriously a light bulb? We lick led lights nowadays.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

I dodge just fine with 200 ping, the problem is that you believe people when they say they can't dodge due to lag.

Just stop expecting quality in the DF it's like licking a lightbulb at this point.

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No the problem is being 0/17 on Titan (hard) because one or more people with (maybe) a bad connection ruined it for the entire group every time. You can't tell me that this hasn't happened to you at least once. Perhaps 99% of people who say it are just lying. I don't know. I'm a word reader not a mind reader. At least I produced an idea.

It doesn't happen with me because I only do it with people I trust.

I don't know their connection I only know the most important thing; they can do it consistently.

Oh wait hard mode? How does one player ruin that it's been 4 manned...

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

It doesn't happen with me because I only do it with people I trust.

I don't know their connection I only know the most important thing; they can do it consistently.

Oh wait hard mode? How does one player ruin that it's been 4 manned...

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The duty won't let you in without 8 people...

Also, assuming you were even able to get in with just 4 people, it would only take one person to mess it up. I mention this point for the 3rd time...

I will agree with you on one thing though. The duty finder doesn't produce quality very often. I think I will do what you did. Form a group on my own server with people I know (once our gear is good enough of course.)Thank you for the input.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgM-e5r1oIM

Obviously what you do is queue with a full party and have 4 people leave. The point however is that it proves that 4 people can actually carry a fight.

In other words in a full 8 man one person can be a total flop and not ruin the chances of the party, assuming the others aren't garbage.

I don't want another reason for elitists to leave the duty.... It's bad as it is already...

Not everyone has good ping, and that doesn't mean they can't dodge.... I personally have ~140, which isn't too high coming from Europe, but there are a lot of people with higher who is very good players, and can dodge everything.

Fact is, people with high ping pay the same identical sub you do. And while gearing up is part of the game progression, ping has nothing to do with it. If anything it's Sqeenix's fault for catering to the whole world while only having servers in two locations. So I doubt they'd penalize people even more for that.

I'm in Asia and has to use a vpn just to get a stable 280 ping just to play with my friends and I support this.

Just to see the ensuing storm. Do it YoshiP. Do it.

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgM-e5r1oIM

Obviously what you do is queue with a full party and have 4 people leave. The point however is that it proves that 4 people can actually carry a fight.

In other words in a full 8 man one person can be a total flop and not ruin the chances of the party, assuming the others aren't garbage.

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If it's true that one person can be horribly laggy/have no skill and not hurt the dynamics of the party, why have people leave at all? I believe I answered my own question. People can and do mess up almost any duty for the previously stated reasons (see OP.) It seems even you realise it.

I must admit though, I didn't even conceive a 4 person party against Titan HM as an option. I thank you again.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

Fact is, people with high ping pay the same identical sub you do. And while gearing up is part of the game progression, ping has nothing to do with it. If anything it's Sqeenix's fault for catering to the whole world while only having servers in two locations. So I doubt they'd penalize people even more for that.

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Think of it like car insurance. Everyone pays a premium. However, a few subscribers that own a deathtrap for a car (speed/ping) or by driving like a maniac (poor skill) can drive up that premium for everyone/effect the insurance's service quality. It's like saying "I'm just as good as you are at this game because I pay the same amount as you do." No. Just...no.

I am not without empathy. I do agree with you that there needs to be servers in more locations so that players are not forced drive the metaphorical "death trap car." Perhaps Squeenix is reading this post and getting the idea? You listening SE?

I dont think their should be a internet check to get in. But I think everyone should be able to see everyone else's internet connection like how it is in vindictus and several other games. Having a way to /ping would be nice aswell like in some other mmos to check your own ping.