Please Start Moderating Your Forum

Dear SE,

First time caller long time listener (couldn't help it). First off, big fan of Final Fantasy. I've been playing since Final Fantasy 1 on Nintendo. Thanks for all the memories...speaking of which.....

The memories I'm being left with from this forum are unsavory to say the least. By a lack of moderation (by that I mean mediation before a lock) you leave us with the impression that the forum is either too large for you to handle (a likely scenario in MMO forums) or you simply do not care enough to regulate. Simply waiting until a comment receives "x" amount of flags in order to intervene is never enough.

The way it stands right now, your forum gives the impression that ff14 forum life is in large part a "free for all". Nobody likes to see this happen. While attitudes get rustled and bridges get burned from time to time anywhere on the internet, there are usually the grown and mature forumers that help to "backseat mod" while not overstepping boundaries. In the case with this forum, no one sees a point. Sure there are some great posters here that try to remind people of the rules and say something lightheartedly moot to clear the air and get back on track, but they are getting tired....it's apparent.

A reason some don't consider for the decomposition of a forum such as this are forum moles. It is not a conspiracy. It is a way of life in forums today. Some are paid, some are just rabid fans of a rival. In any case, they are like cancer. Regular intervention of moderators is the chemo.

In addition, one should ask "what do kids do with freedom?"...they abuse it as a majority. Why do they abuse it? Because they can. The lack of moderation is starting to show tells of how old and immature a large part of your player base is. Personally, I know some teenagers that are more mature than friends my age, but they're rare. I do not want to play a game where a majority of the player base isn't old enough to drive. Not because I refuse to play with kids, but because kids (not always) are the ones who troll in forums and troll in game. Again, not all minors are like this, but there's a reason you don't receive freedom until a certain age. Forums are evidence of this.

Lastly I'll just leave you with this:

The forum is a part of the game (as in most MMOs), your game is still new and improving, do you really want this forum sticking out as an eyesore on top of the challenges/goals you have in front of you?

PS-Lifelong fan, I critique cuz I care...*hugz

I was banned from forums for 10 days for criticizing the lack of moderation in these forums. :/ They definitely do delete posts and entire threads when things become too hostile or get out of hand, but new threads crop up and others go graveyard so quickly that you'll probably rarely even notice.

Was banned 10 days too for the same reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9sHI...re=c4-overview

That being said "forum moles" as you say are fake imo. I assume your calling the people wanting to change the game similar to 1.23 forum moles, I think it's just people like myself who are disappointed with the game.

Conspiracy theory if you ask me.

I don't really follow the idea that people that disagree with me are being paid to do it. Sounds a lot like you are ginning up fear.

It's crazy that you think anyone is paid to post on here.

I got banned before because I thought they would blow it off.

They do moderate this forum.

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Originally Posted by Aethaeryn

I was banned from forums for 10 days for criticizing the lack of moderation in these forums. :/ They definitely do delete posts and entire threads when things become too hostile or get out of hand, but new threads crop up and others go graveyard so quickly that you'll probably rarely even notice.

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You think that's bad? i got banned for ten days for hurting someones feelings yet people swear like sailors on this forum and not a thing happens to em.

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Originally Posted by Ispen

You think that's bad? i got banned for ten days for hurting someones feelings yet people swear like sailors on this forum and not a thing happens to em.

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Swearing isn't insulting. Only if directed in such a manor.

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Originally Posted by Aethaeryn

………..They definitely do delete posts and entire threads when things become too hostile or get out of hand……..

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I know, I’ve seen it. I’ve flagged posts too. However, some of the comments are so offensive and out of line, that it makes it hard to get into the conversation. There needs to be regular intervention. I pay to play this game, I/we’re entitled to this request.

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Originally Posted by Battlewrench

……That being said "forum moles" as you say are fake imo.

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Moles are not fake. A forum mole is someone who is paid to spread false information and defamatory information in a competitors internet medium. You don’t need to be paid either. Some people do it because they want to. They are very real. Some people call them trolls, but moleing and trolling are two different things similar in appearance.

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Originally Posted by FelisC

It's crazy that you think anyone is paid to post on here.

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I also never said someone in this forum was paid to mole here, please read.<---big part of the problem here.

Moles are fake.

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Originally Posted by Killance

Swearing isn't insulting. Only if directed in such a manor.

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Which most of it on this forum is lets be honest.

hey, guess what.


the thread was moved.

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Originally Posted by Imapooonu

I know, I’ve seen it. I’ve flagged posts too. However, some of the comments are so offensive and out of line, that it makes it hard to get into the conversation. There needs to be regular intervention. I pay to play this game, I/we’re entitled to this request.

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I agree, but I think they probably just don't have the manpower to immediately address every rule violation. My 10-day ban was like 1-2 weeks after I made the post, so that should be some indication at least.

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Originally Posted by Battlewrench

Moles are fake.

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They are not. It's business 101 today. Look it up, smh.

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Originally Posted by saber_alter

hey, guess what.


the thread was moved.

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Awesome.

Don't think anyone who is still sane takes discussions on a message board too seriously.

You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. Can't expect people to be here every minute of every day. Can't pick just anyone to represent your community.

But you can ignore other posters.

Why does some dude acting like an ass have to bring you down? Why do you have to be upset that they are upset?

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Originally Posted by Delorean

Don't think anyone who is still sane takes discussions on a message board too seriously.

You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. Can't expect people to be here every minute of every day. Can't pick just anyone to represent your community.

But you can ignore other posters.

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Too seriously? Agreed. However implying that the internet is the way it is and we should just all move on does nothing but contribute to the problem. I hear the wisdom in your words, but I believe it to be an encompassing statement that is a catchall for the way things are.

There are decent communities out there, this should be one imo.

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Originally Posted by Ispen

You think that's bad? i got banned for ten days for hurting someones feelings yet people swear like sailors on this forum and not a thing happens to em.

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Originally Posted by Killance

Swearing isn't insulting. Only if directed in such a manor.

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I've been banned a few days in the past for quoting swears an unpleasant player said in-game as a part of another discussion. It was not directed at anyone, nor did I name said player.

Their rules are wide open to interpretation from each, individual moderator. They ban when they feel like it.

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Originally Posted by Kamina33

Their rules are wide open to interpretation from each, individual moderator. They ban when they feel like it.

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I didn't want to address this because my honest comment could seem disrespectful to the moderation staff. However, it's been brought up enough already that it needs addressed. I'll take my lashings and move on with my day. I'm a big boy, and if I am in violation of the ToS I will submit like a puppy starved of milk. I know my place, others should too...comes with age. I have two accounts anyway lol. jijijijijijijijijij juuuuuuuuuust jokin xD (not about the 2 accounts).

What also comes with age is understanding that sometimes rules are meant to be broken, albeit it is rarely justified. However, ask yourselves this: How many times has someone made that super lighthearted troll that even made the trollee laugh and get back to "on topic" while laughing the whole time? Those trolls are beautiful when they happen at just the right time in just the right thread. The problem nowadays in the malicious intent behind a lot of trolls. Some of the posters here are one post away from just spewing out racist terms (which some are indeed guilty).

It's not that I'm trying to contest any authority, it's that I'm entitled to my opinions and objective observations. When you think about it, isn't that what forum life is kinda all about?

I just want to give you all a big hug.

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Originally Posted by Imapooonu

...What also comes with age is understanding that sometimes rules are meant to be broken, albeit it is rarely justified. However, ask yourselves this: How many times has someone made that super lighthearted troll that even made the trollee laugh and get back to "on topic" while laughing the whole time? Those trolls are beautiful when they happen at just the right time in just the right thread. The problem nowadays in the malicious intent behind a lot of trolls. Some of the posters here are one post away from just spewing out racist terms (which some are indeed guilty). It's not that I'm trying to contest any authority, it's that I'm entitled to my opinions and objective observations. When you think about it, isn't that what forum life is kinda all about?

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I agree with you on how the forum should be considered as part of the game, and also how it should be moderated accordingly. However, people do what they want. This also applies to the people overseeing these boards. If they can, they will. If they don't want to, they won't. That golden standard we all hope should be there stretches across so many different interpretations of what we think is the same thing. There's really nothing to do about it except have discussions like this, which more than likely won't make any difference at all.