Apkallu Eggs

Can you guys please increase the number of apkallu mobs/spawn locations for them? Or at least increase the number of eggs that drop off of each apkallu?

At least on Excalibur these mobs are farmed 24/7 by usually 2+ people and I think there's only around 12 (edit: actually more like 17-18) of them. I feel like the high demand for apkallu eggs (like diremite webs, fleece, etc) wasn't considered when the team decided to have so few ways of obtaining them.

Same thing on Hyperion. Sometimes I'll get lucky at odd hours and find the area pretty well empty, but usually there are two or three people farming them.

Same on all the servers I'm sure. For mine its early in the morning like 7am.. just don't have the time then to farm as work calls. It gets so bad at times you have to guard your one spot like it was your life blood and if you don't have an aoe spam your SOL.

Why have mobs drop anything at all. Just make everything for sale. More drops wont solve anything, except help kill the economy even more.

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Originally Posted by KikInperi

Can you guys please increase the number of apkallu mobs/spawn locations for them? .

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It was considered - Yoshi knew exactly what he was doing when he decided to remove "overworld grinding" because kids decided it's "outdated". We went from 3-5 apkallu camps with about 12-20 each to..this.

Same with Diremite web and fleece. They'll never increase mob count because it has to fit in line with "no overworld grinding", so sadly, have to just deal with it. They increased webs but didn't on these eggs...heck they even increase skin drops on stuff there's NO demand for. They may as well add everything to vendors since resale price is useless anyway, so buying wouldn't hurt anything.

Personally, I like the competition. People are usually pretty fun about it on Balmung at least. I'm used to FFXI where mobs took about 5-10min to spawn and you still got outclaimed. There's a pretty wide area where the Apkallu spawn and they respawn pretty quickly as it is. If you really want to gurantee you get drops, make a farming party. It sounds silly at first, but if you are having trouble getting spawns, you can at least have a chance. I've made a few friends that way :). On my BRD I can get about half a stack in 30min or less, which is plenty.

It'll just shift to another mob after a "fix". Just like the Webs.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Same with Diremite web and fleece. They'll never increase mob count

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What? You seem misinformed... they DID increase web/fleece mob count and spawn locations AND drop rates. I don't get the point you're trying to make.

There are more Apkallu near Lower La Noscea path. They are spread out but you can kill without others guys because they are ignored

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Originally Posted by rappa

There are more Apkallu near Lower La Noscea path. They are spread out but you can kill without others guys because they are ignored

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Nah those ones are camped just as much on my server >.<

I only find it annoying when I'm making raid food. But with the spawns currently I'll get about 15 eggs before I give up

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Originally Posted by KikInperi

What? You seem misinformed... they DID increase web/fleece mob count and spawn locations AND drop rates. I don't get the point you're trying to make.

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Mob count, not drop count. They don't need to increase banemite population when they increased number of drops per enemy. The Sheep they "added" was just relocating where some from the main camp spawned.

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

I only find it annoying when I'm making raid food.

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That's the point XD

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Originally Posted by KikInperi

Can you guys please increase the number of apkallu mobs/spawn locations for them? Or at least increase the number of eggs that drop off of each apkallu?

At least on Excalibur these mobs are farmed 24/7 by usually 2+ people and I think there's only around 12 (edit: actually more like 17-18) of them. I feel like the high demand for apkallu eggs (like diremite webs, fleece, etc) wasn't considered when the team decided to have so few ways of obtaining them.

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I guess they won't.

Then, you may be more fast tagging or use an aoe.

If you are tagging theirs mobs maybe he leave the spot

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Mob count, not drop count. They don't need to increase banemite population when they increased number of drops per enemy. The Sheep they "added" was just relocating where some from the main camp spawned.

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Not true. They increased the total number of sheep in the zone (by adding other camps for them)

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Originally Posted by rappa

Then, you may be more fast tagging or use an aoe.

If you are tagging theirs mobs maybe he leave the spot

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I don't usually lose, it's just not fun/enjoyable having to race to each bird when I tend to farm tens or even hundreds of eggs at a time~ (and so does everyone else I think)

Please don't increase the drop number, only increase the numbers of Apkallu camps.

this is where him going with the no open world grinding is an issue. when mobs need people farming them and you have hundreds to thousands of people on at once it becomes a disaster. there's only a few mobs per spot and they respawn quite slow. then add on top there's usually 8+ people farming them in that small area on excalibur consistently and it becomes problematic. it's gotten to where when i go i stay until i get 2-3 stacks and will just try to pull every mob there. sure, it may take me an entire day to farm them, but hey i don't need to go back to farming them again for a long time.

I can appreciate this struggle, and if I see your character farming when I'm there, I will try and respect your space.

the pain comes when you try to complete your hunting log and have to compete with bots for the mobs...

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Originally Posted by NyneAlexander

I can appreciate this struggle, and if I see your character farming when I'm there, I will try and respect your space.

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one other thing we have to remember is there is a low level hunting log for those. whenever i see someone in their mid 20's come over i try to send them a tell asking if they need the 3 for their logs.

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Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont

the pain comes when you try to complete your hunting log and have to compete with bots for the mobs...

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the problem with this is most times it's not bots you are competing against. the problem is you can manipulate which order the mobs spawn and how far apart they are. after farming in the spot for a while i can literally tell you the next mob that will spawn, where it will spawn, and be ready to claim is soon as it spawns.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

one other thing we have to remember is there is a low level hunting log for those. whenever i see someone in their mid 20's come over i try to send them a tell asking if they need the 3 for their logs.

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oh for sure. If I see a lowbie come up and try and get a couple kills in, I'll usually take that time to go afk for a drink or something. I'm usually only there for 15-20 eggs; just enough to get a weeks worth of raid food. And between flare and scathe, I usually get that pretty quickly.

How do you expect Apkallu to breed when everyone is taking away every egg they ever laid

It is a pain when you're a melee trying to do your hunting log. By the time you take out one, the rest are all dead thanks to farmers in the area.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

one other thing we have to remember is there is a low level hunting log for those. whenever i see someone in their mid 20's come over i try to send them a tell asking if they need the 3 for their logs.

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That's very considerate of you.

It was a mistake to completely destroy the market for fleece and web and now you're asking for them to do the same here. Weever was/is one of the most profitable crafting jobs in the game and if you wanted to get to 50 effectively you had to farm webs and then fleece. Others could make decent money by farming these if they didn't craft.

SEs obsession with limiting RMT cash cows is also effectively destroying part of the market, and you still see people complaining about bots still in game for months.

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Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont

the pain comes when you try to complete your hunting log and have to compete with bots for the mobs...

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I just did this myself for not one, not two, but three jobs at the same time (MNK, DRG, & BRD). A couple level 50's held me hostage for far longer than it should have taken.

There are a couple leves there that have Apkallu mobs in them. Not that I can think of the names of course. But they're your own penguiducks (duckguins?) to slaughter and they do drop eggs. There aren't a lot of them in the leve but 4-5 are better than none at all.

Spam Tab+ instant skill like Bio. I very rarely lose to farmers this way. I also have twitchy fingers with a high rate of tapping though... not that anyone has ever complained. :P

I have my tenth bar with an instant cast in the first slot for most jobs for the sole purpose of claiming. Learned the hard way farming in Sky in FFXI. Gotta have a trigger finger.

Food made from apkallu eggs are still worth money. Please add more sources of eggs so even they aren't worth crafting anymore. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by C-croft

Gotta have a trigger finger.

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Or a macro that targets the closest enemy + attacks it with one click.

Bumping this thread. This is ridic...

I just want mah eggs. There's effictively 4 camps and there's always that one jerk that's floating around messing up respawn timers because he can't go do something else until a camp opens up.

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Originally Posted by diulalasing

How do you expect Apkallu to breed when everyone is taking away every egg they ever laid

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I know this is snark but now I kinda want some sort of animal/mob raising minigame/timesink. IIRC isn't there a side-quest dealing with dodo breeding in swiftperch? Why can't the players do that :/

-_- yeh... and some Hunting log have those at Lv 30 and sometimes takes over 20 mins to try to kill 4-5 of those <.< because those farmer dont leave anything for others.

How about put them on an npc? Then if someone wants HQ they can farm them.

It would be grimly hilarious if one day we all woke up to a sign that says "The Apkallu are all extinct due to overhunting and loss of habitat"

Then we find out that they're not ALL really extinct, it seems Gegeruju has the last remaining breeding pair... and... (QUEST!)

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Originally Posted by Mayin

Why have mobs drop anything at all. Just make everything for sale. More drops wont solve anything, except help kill the economy even more.

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Because adding another gil sink for cooking would solve things economy-wise? Fixing chokeholds like Apkallu that allows 1 small group of players (re: RMT) to control the endgame food market of a server is far more detrimental to the economy of a server than adding more pops which solved the fleece problem.

They need to make minions useful.

Imagine having a Apkallu minion that shits an egg every 10 min.

Buffalo calf drops a bottle of night milk ect. ect.

Just saying.. make those worthless poke'mon minions do some in game shit.