[Discussion] Having multiple classes worth it in this game?

Aside from the fact that it is a bit worth it to have a multiple class due to cross-skills, aside from that, is there any reason to have a multiple class at all in this game?

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I'm not QQ-ing, I just want to hear your opinion regarding this "somewhat" screwed Armoury system which is the main attraction of this game in the first place.

Well, it's fun.

at this point? not really. might change later on but for now, just do it if u have a lot of time on ur hands

Yes. Because you will never get a Job without a second Class.

Nothing else really to do.

If you're a tank and you level up a dps class then you get to see what it's like from the dps perspective. You learn what things tanks do that get on your nerves.

An example is if you level monk or dragoon and the tank keeps spinning the enemy around because they think moving around helps them avoid normal attacks. You run around, wishing the tank would stop moving so you can properly hit the enemy.

Experiencing the perspective from all points of view makes you a better player overall.

I like to be able to help out other people that need another DD for their relic, or a healer for their run, or whatever it is. PLD is my main which is what I focused my "lockouts" on (coil,myth) and everything else was secondary. I like to be useful

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

If you're a tank and you level up a dps class then you get to see what it's like from the dps perspective.

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I learn that I should always queue up with a tank buddy. Queueing as a dd suxs.

It's great for farming contents since I fit in every group.

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

It's great for farming contents since I fit in every group.

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Yeah this, I have a DPS and Tank at the moment. Really enjoying being able to play different roles on a whim and farm on a preferred job.

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Originally Posted by Quiz

I like to be able to help out other people that need another DD for their relic, or a healer for their run, or whatever it is. PLD is my main which is what I focused my "lockouts" on (coil,myth) and everything else was secondary. I like to be useful

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

It's great for farming contents since I fit in every group.

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What they said

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

Aside from the fact that it is a bit worth it to have a multiple class due to cross-skills, aside from that, is there any reason to have a multiple class at all in this game?

PS:
I'm not QQ-ing, I just want to hear your opinion regarding this "somewhat" screwed Armoury system which is the main attraction of this game in the first place.

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Statement: As being one that has multiple classes, absolutely it is, especially with CT and EX primal weapons, gearing alt classes gives one something to do when their 'main' is full i90.

Being able to fill more than one role means finding a spot in groups is easier.

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Originally Posted by Mykll

Yes. Because you will never get a Job without a second Class.

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Thank you Captain Obvious.

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Keep 'em coming. Probably it's just me who feels it's lacking when I can't use multiple jobs in the same content (Particularly coil).

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

If you're a tank and you level up a dps class then you get to see what it's like from the dps perspective. You learn what things tanks do that get on your nerves.

An example is if you level monk or dragoon and the tank keeps spinning the enemy around because they think moving around helps them avoid normal attacks. You run around, wishing the tank would stop moving so you can properly hit the enemy.

Experiencing the perspective from all points of view makes you a better player overall.

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Very true plus it gives you something to do instead of starting another "I"m bored and there needs to be more content rawr" thread

Also spinning does reduce the auto attack rate but I only recommend it if you're party agrees to it. Plus with all the recent tank buffs you really shouldn't need to anymore.

Absolutely. Some fights favor certain classes, some fights only need one tank or one healer (for example, you can 1 tank or 1 heal all of the EX primals). It's better to be able to switch to a job that is useful for the situation than have to sit out for somebody else.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

If you're a tank and you level up a dps class then you get to see what it's like from the dps perspective. You learn what things tanks do that get on your nerves.

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This is a great answer. My exp is different because I played a whm, blm, sch, and smn all to 50. As you can tell normally I play magic classes. Out of random curiosity I tried PUG, got it to MNK and freaking loved it. However, I know what it is like to be the WHM in a party. I think for my level in mnk (36) having a rep of 26 is pretty good! I think that at times it is because of the fact I know whm. I see the tank lose aggro to healing for the whm in my roulette and I ran after the mob and grab aggro myself. Even though it is a bit harder as a mnk than a tank to get that aggro, I do it. This is mainly because playing as a whm I had to pay careful attention to all mobs and if I ever got heal aggro (which was rare) I knew that was time to run toward the tank with the mob in tow. Not all whm know that. But it really is true, you don't know someone else's job until you walk in their shoes.

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

Thank you Captain Obvious.

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Keep 'em coming. Probably it's just me who feels it's lacking when I can't use multiple jobs in the same content (Particularly coil).

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I am on Durandal which is a JP server, and having multiple classes/jobs really allows me to have a much easier time finding groups. Durandal being a PUG heavy group I am able to pug different turns of Coil on different jobs. Last week I went to Coil 1 and 2 on DRG then 4 on BLM. Few weeks before that I also pugged turn 5 on PLD. In this case, having multiple jobs is definitely huge plus for me.

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Originally Posted by KyrsIsley

I am on Durandal which is a JP server, and having multiple classes/jobs really allows me to have a much easier time finding groups. Durandal being a PUG heavy group I am able to pug different turns of Coil on different jobs. Last week I went to Coil 1 and 2 on DRG then 4 on BLM. Few weeks before that I also pugged turn 5 on PLD. In this case, having multiple jobs is definitely huge plus for me.

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Especially when you consider that theres nothing stopping you asking for/rolling on loot for a different job. Had a T1 run on my Monk last week whereby neither Healer needed the drops, so they said to greed it if you had a class at 50, so we did. I didn't win it, but the point is that you can't do that if you run multiple characters for different Jobs.
I like the freedom to play whichever class i want and still farm the Tomes to get DL/Myth/CT gear for a totally different job.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

Especially when you consider that theres nothing stopping you asking for/rolling on loot for a different job. Had a T1 run on my Monk last week whereby neither Healer needed the drops, so they said to greed it if you had a class at 50, so we did. I didn't win it, but the point is that you can't do that if you run multiple characters for different Jobs.
I like the freedom to play whichever class i want and still farm the Tomes to get DL/Myth/CT gear for a totally different job.

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On Durandal there are groups where you are allowed to declare one item as your "wish list" or a job as your "job" even though you are on a different job and roll accordingly, I imagine this is the same on other JP servers. This of course is a honor system and can be taken advantage of, but the chance of it happening is quite small on a JP server.

I like having the ability to join anything I want and be useful. Hard to do that when I limit myself on what I want to play.

Considering the ilevel requirement of PF groups it seems pointless, because by the time you get two jobs at 85+ the content will be dated.

Waste of time, but I had nothing better to do.

Flexibility is great.

I play BLM (ilvl 85) and MNK (ilvl 90) almost equally at this point (Turn 1 and 5 as MNK, Turn 2 and 4 as BLM).
If I do Garuda, I go as a BLM and if I do Titan EM or Ifrit EM I go as a MNK.
I also do lower content than that (HMs, CT, Mog) as a WHM. Faster queues are nice for CT.
So that's my personal experience and why I would vouch for multiple characters.

Though the armoury system gets a lot of flak. I really appreciate that I can get gear for other classes on one character.
That's not the case in other games. When I gave SMN a try, I had quite a few allagan pieces that transferred over to it.
When I got my WHM to 50, I had some 90 waiting as well without spending any myth.

So even with the limitations, there are still quite a few benefits. Especially since non-myth gear can fit multiple classes (except bard/archer), so as you keep playing it's increasingly easier to try out multiple classes with better gear.

So gearing up doesn't seem that slow to me.
And with that in mind, levelling multiple classes in this game would be for the same reason as any other game -
- Flexibility
- Trying out different playstyle
- Understanding how the other classes you play with work from a first person perspective

With so many options, why would you not want to level another class?

I'm needed as a healer most of the time, so that's what I call my main; though depending on the mechanics I'll switch between SCH (89) and WHM (83). I run maps, Crystal Tower and just general content with my MNK (84), because it's fun to play and a nice break from my healers; not to mention it's almost as well geared as them now, so I can even do end-game content with it.

I have a WAR (73), but I don't play it much. It's nice to have a tanking class though, as I can help people out with things if they're ever in need. I also go to Crystal Tower with my tank, so that my tanking friend has dibs on all the loot.

Right before the patch I just finished leveling my BLM to 50 and I'm having a blast. I plan to do my Relic quest for it later on today with the Company. Honestly, I love leveling other classes and love that you can switch between them at the click of a button.

Of course it is. I got all jobs 50. It's good to be versatile.

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

Aside from the fact that it is a bit worth it to have a multiple class due to cross-skills, aside from that, is there any reason to have a multiple class at all in this game?

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Aside from the fact it is a bit worth it to have money irl due to the ability to buy 'facilities', is there any reason to have money at all?

INB4 This is not real life.

For flexibility and efficiency.

I come as BRD for Turns 1-3 and BLM for Turn 4-5
Our other BLM comes as WHM for Turn 2 Enrage

I never queue for more than 5 mins for CT, ever (not counting the constant party member withdrawals) as I can change as necessary.

More gil from roulette as I am always on the 'needed' role.

multiple classes help to repair your stuff yourself

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Experiencing the perspective from all points of view makes you a better player overall.

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This... A hundred times over this!

My main has been healing since late 1.0, before I was DPS. Changing to healing allowed me to understand more about the entire strategy and approach of a party's situation. Since 2.0 launched I've also leveled a tank class to 50 and begun to understand that side of it. It's amazing how much better a party can be when all 8 of you can understand every role in the party and what's expected of your fellow players.