"X Farm Group":

It's not a farm group if it disbands after one clear. @_@ I'm growing frustrated waiting for a full party to form, and then half the raid leaves after the first clear in <10 minutes because half the people cleared it for their first time (But still congrats!), and the other half didn't want to wait to reform so they go to other party finders.

Please, if you're going to join a 'farm' group, or make a 'farm' group, try to commit some time to it. It's frustrating to always lose half the party after a single clear. And if you're joining it for the sole purpose of a clear and not a farm, please at least inform people beforehand so we know to actively let our FC's know that we may have room soon.

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Been having this problem all week with Ultima/Garuda EX. With Ultima people usually leave after getting their drop. And with Garuda people (who insist they've already done it) leave after getting their achievement and watching their CS in Coerthas.

So frustrating.

I too have this problem. I've been killing Garuda EX / Ultima for a couple of weeks looking for a ring.
If I do ever get the drop. I won't drop out of the group. I'll clear a couple more times.
/Promise.

It's also not a farm group if the group wipes repeatedly and can never beat the fight. I wish people were aware of this fact!

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Originally Posted by Heskett

It's also not a farm group if the group wipes repeatedly and can never beat the fight. I wish people were aware of this fact!

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Agreed again. Then if you're the one who decides to quit after the twentieth wipe you're called a rage quitter...

They're using "farm" to refer to the ability of the group, i.e. "have X on farm".

In other words, they just want geared and experienced people. That's the new fashionable term these days.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

And if you're joining it for the sole purpose of a clear and not a farm, please at least inform people beforehand so we know to actively let our FC's know that we may have room soon. remove you from the group that you're not supposed to be in.

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FTFY. People shouldn't be joining farm groups if they have neither previous wins nor experience. People make farm groups to actually kill things, not teach new people each and every run.

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Originally Posted by Zfz

They're using "farm" to refer to the ability of the group, i.e. "have X on farm".

In other words, they just want geared and experienced people. That's the new fashionable term these days.

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This is it exactly. They see that the people are (hopefully) experienced enough to farm it and just need one or two dps to fill the ranks. They join for a quick kill and leave. Best thing to do would be to talk to every person and make sure all of them want to farm it before queuing.

I've noticed that most of the wipes in my "farm" groups was due to 1-2 players having never done the fight. These are usually people who made the PF listing, and by putting farm in it, hope to attract experienced players to carry them through the fight. It's a growing tactic that's really starting to piss me off. It's obvious right off the bat that they are new (just last night had a tank who claimed to have done garuda 40+ times and the proceeded to tank her and superna right in the middle of the arena), it's just frustrating that all that waiting for the party is wasted in 5 minutes

best thing to do if you want to farm EX primals is teach your FC till you all can beat it regularly and farm it as many times as you all like (as me and my FC does) ^_^

Tbh if you join a pug farm group you are pretty much chancing everything (you can't ask ppl you don't know to stay should they decide they want to leave after they get the drop they want) essentially if its a farm group the only thing set in stone is the fact that the group itself (the party leader and main members) will continue to run the same fight picking up party members as they go to fill spots of players that have gained their drop and left.

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Originally Posted by peaches

This is it exactly. They see that the people are (hopefully) experienced enough to farm it and just need one or two dps to fill the ranks. They join for a quick kill and leave. Best thing to do would be to talk to every person and make sure all of them want to farm it before queuing.

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Yeah. For me there's a more straight-forward way to make the point of the party clear: "at least X runs". Avoid terminology that have been tainted.

On Balmung it has become custom to check for Ex primals with the next in line to see if people have experience (IE: Garuda farm, they queue Titan, Titan Farm, they queue Ifrit).

Even if you queue for, let's say, Ifrit EX in a garuda EX farm party, if the party wipes 3 times just to get one kill... I'm not sticking around.

Farm parties need to be efficient or they're not really farm parties. But it does bother me when I finally do get a good group and they decide they'll just disband anyway after the first kill.

I'm pretty burned out on extremes anyway so IDC at this point though.

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Originally Posted by Kyros

On Balmung it has become custom to check for Ex primals with the next in line to see if people have experience (IE: Garuda farm, they queue Titan, Titan Farm, they queue Ifrit).

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that's a pretty smart idea if I'm understanding you right. Que for the next one in line (I.E., going for Titan, que for Ifrit extreme) to see if everyone has the quest available (meaning they cleared it.)