[REQUEST] Scholars Succor to heal as Medica

The whole idea of succor is great but I feel that whm is still more efficient when healing a group.
I would be great if Succor heals at 800 or 700 as normal no critical hit.

You'd be better off asking for Succor II. We're not ideal at raid healing anyway, that's the whm's job. If you absolutely have to take over that roll(which is only in a few rare occasions), you use Eos to provide extra raid healing. Succor is fine as is. Leave the major raid healing to WHMs while we keep tanks alive.

It still needs more potency feels mediocre at primals runs specially at titan hm and many others.

Scholars can solo heal Titan HM and I think it's possible for a scholar to solo heal Titan EM. You're probably using succor wrong. Its effective heal is as much as medica. If you are using it reactively, you're using it wrong.

It still needs more potency feels mediocre at primals runs specially at titan hm and many others.

You're a smart one. It looks like you don't read so I will ignore this thread and so should everyone one else. Learn your role as a scholar or just play WHM.

It's not about if I'm doing it right or wrong. If you are in lvl90/80 sch it will solo heal no issue . I'm taking about to have same potency as whms medica.

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Originally Posted by Mature

It's not about if I'm doing it right or wrong. If you are in lvl90/80 sch it will solo heal no issue . I'm taking about to have same potency as whms medica.

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You can solo heal Titan HM with full DL and relic book, not zenith. It takes knowing the fight and know how to use your CDs. In no one way as a scholar can you reactively solo heal that fight. So yes, it is about doing it right or wrong. I have had no issues with party healing healing all the way through extremes. Even when a whm's raid healing is restricted(ifrit ex), I can still keep everyone topped off with proper use of CDs from eos and myself.

Succor almost always needs to be coupled with something whether it be virus, eye for an eye popped earlier, sacred soil, illumination, or covenant. I have never once thought that succor's potency should be increased.

SCH, even with less than iLvl 70 (avg), can solo heal all HM primal. Succor is fine as it is. Learn what's your job and what's WHM job.

The only "fix" needed is for duo heal SCH/SCH wich is worst than SCH/WHM and WHM/WHM. May allow stack of shield of two SCH or something like that.

Just a request not for people to get smart about it. Thanks

Next time you post a request, please use the search function and reply to one of the other "Succor isn't good enough" threads. Read everyone else's comments and you'll see why you're getting the response you're getting right now.

There's only a handful of people who think succor isn't good enough and it's because they play scholar with the wrong mindset.

So again, please use the search function next time. Thanks.

Not everyone thinks the same way kid. Thanks and move on

You are using it wrong ; /

Its is not a after damage heal like medica 2

The only time to use succor is before damage or during a multiple hit damage phase, if the party has already taken the big damage hit then don't bother

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Not everyone thinks the same way kid. Thanks and move on

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Real "Mature".

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Originally Posted by Soulburn32

You are using it wrong ; /

Its is not a after damage heal like medica 2

The only time to use succor is before damage or during a multiple hit damage phase, if the party has already taken the big damage hit then don't bother

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Yep I get that doing it before damage example titans tumuls. But the amount given for the heal itself should be as high as medica

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Yep I get that doing it before damage example titans tumuls. But the amount given for the heal itself should be as high as medica

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And then scholar would be superior at raid healing and tank healing. What else do you want? To have both fairies out at the sametime?

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And then scholar would be superior at raid healing

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Doesn't sound a bad idea to me

No thanks. We are strong enough as it is.

Also, this isn't what the technical support forum is for.

Sounds like you need to play WHM and stop playing SCH.

Just a request. We all have different ways of playing and seeing starts. No need to get smart about it. Thanks

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Just a request. We all have different ways of playing and seeing starts. No need to get smart about it. Thanks

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We have just as much a right to say we don't want it, as you think you do to say you do want it.

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Yep I get that doing it before damage example titans tumuls. But the amount given for the heal itself should be as high as medica

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Then maybe white mages should get pets and aetherflow.

Different classes are different.

As a Scholar, I feel shocked and ashamed by this thread.

Please be sure that not all of us are like this "Mature" person, and thus we do not support his ideas.

I don't, I like improvements and finding ways to make the job more efficient than what it is. If there are ways to make your job better, what's wrong with giving a suggestion after all I MAIN sch so I know what I'm talking about. As I said before no need to get smart about it. Thanks

You don't understand everyone's point so just drop it.

No need for attacking someone having a different point of view. If you agree with the idea let it rest I'm defending my point. Thanks for bumping the thread.

No need for attacking someone having a different point of view. If you DONT agree with the idea let it rest. I'm defending my point and my request. Thanks for bumping the thread.

Oh you're welcome. Now more people can agree to disagree with you. I'm surprised you didn't end your post with thanks. Thanks

That's the whole point of the thread. Thanks

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No need for attacking someone having a different point of view. If you DONT agree with the idea let it rest. I'm defending my point and my request. Thanks for bumping the thread.

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And why are we not allowed to defend ourselves?

On this same note, I think my scholar should be able to wear tank armor and have enmity gaining abilities the same as a tank. How is it fair that square forced me to play a scholar were I have a specific role in the party to maintain. Side note, Increase dps to at least equal to a Blm both while healing and tanking. Ty^^

If they nerf monk why not scholar? I rest my case ;)

hard to take this thread serious, we are not raid healers that is not our role

Agreed. Scholar needs a buff. I propose a Cure II, Succor II, 20 stacks of Aetherflow total (and why doesn't it restore all mana? it should.), and when I use Rouse I should be able to have both Selene and Eos out at the same time.

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Agreed. Scholar needs a buff. I propose a Cure II, Succor II, 20 stacks of Aetherflow total (and why doesn't it restore all mana? it should.), and when I use Rouse I should be able to have both Selene and Eos out at the same time.

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Also shouldn't have to level THM for swiftcast plz.

Honestly. All I want is a spammable healer LB3. Is that so much to ask for guys? I mean really.

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Doesn't sound a bad idea to me

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The fact that you said that is why no one can take you seriously. Do you want SCHs to be the only healing class around? Just like how it was for PLDs and Warrs prior to the 2.1 patch? I'd quit the game if that ever happened and I main SCH. I love my WHM partner and love how the two classes have to work together to achieve maximum efficiency. It's completely intentional that SCHs fall short in the raid healing department. Succor is fine the way it is.