2.2 CoB New Turns, New gear, New Tomes?

So 2.1 is behind us and there is still plenty to do. But I'm looking forward to 2.2 for the next set of Coils. So I wanted to know some stuff. We are suppose to get AF2 in 2.2, Are these going to be bought with new Tomes or maybe drop from new Turns?

I don't know how others feel but I'm sick of RNG in this game for drops in CoB. It's been over three months and I haven't gotten my Legs in T1 or Waist in T4 and doing them weekly.

What I Hope 2.2 Will be is that the new Turns drop new Tomes to buy new gear doesn't have to be used to buy AF2. At least then you have some chance to get new gear even if it takes 2 weeks for one. Cause not everyone has mad luck and can gear out in a month or less.

It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have a week long lockout. Don't want to make a lockout thread plenty of those.

When new tombs get released Myth will probably be relieved of the lockout and the new tomes will have the new weekly lockout.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

When new tombs get released Myth will probably be relieved of the lockout and the new tomes will have the new weekly lockout.

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Yeah I'm 100% sure the new Tomes will have a weekly cap. But I hope the Tomes will be used for CoB gear instead of this stupid RNG crap. Watched my wife get MNK legs 2 weeks in a row in a PUG, Just like I've only seen 3 piece of Tank gear drop in over 3 months. RNG sucks on content that has week long lockouts.


They'll just boost Myth tomes to like 750 a week cap I doubt they will remove it.

I'm sure they will release a few new level 50 dungeons that drop iLevel 65 gear....and tomes that you can buy ilevel 100 gear with. I don't know about you, but I'm sure excited to get that primary stat and a few secondary stats to a slightly higher number.

I have a few friends on my list who haven't even gotten a single piece of Allagan the last couple of months because of SE's legendary RNG system. So, I'd rather see a token system dedicated specifically for Allagan gear in general. It would be cool if you get a token per Turn. This system would be somewhat similar to how Primal weapons are handled.

3 tokens = accessory
5 tokens = head, gloves, belt, boots
10 tokens = chest, pants, weapon

Such wishful thinking though :D

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Originally Posted by Gucci_Charms

I have a few friends on my list who haven't even gotten a single piece of Allagan the last couple of months because of SE's legendary RNG system. So, I'd rather see a token system dedicated specifically for Allagan gear in general. It would be cool if you get a token per Turn. This system would be somewhat similar to how Primal weapons are handled.

3 tokens = accessory
5 tokens = head, gloves, belt, boots
10 tokens = chest, pants, weapon

Such wishful thinking though :D

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You are asking for a properly designed token system. Wishful thinking indeed.

To be honest, they need to pull back on adding too many "currencies" like tomes. It's pretty overwhelming to a new (or returning) player to see a dozen different currencies and have to hunt down which ones are useful, which ones are outdated and where/how to acquire/use them. It's simply too much to (re)learn and makes things overly complicated. I'd be in favor of it if they retired outdated currencies and simply replaced them with gil/seals. It's especially bad with tomes, seeing as the numbers are extremely large and the required numbers for purchase are nearly nonsensical (495? 375? Seriously? Did they have Walmart employees price these?)

Even now, if they simply removed the cap for myth, philo would be near-useless outside of the crafting mats (for gear that would be even less desirable without a myth cap). Why even keep it in the game at that point? Why buy an ilvl70 Darklight piece when in two more runs of WP in your AF gear you'd have ilvl90 Relic?

I don't enjoy the RNG aspect of drops, but there has to be a better way than adding a new currency for every ilvl. A single, tradable, inventory token upon completion that redeems a piece of armor from a dungeon, perhaps? Keeping the numbers small (like 3 for Body/Legs, 2 for Head/Hands/Feet, 1 for Accessories/Belt) would mean you'd be spending them quickly so your inventory would stay clear, and your currency screen isn't flooded with outdated junk. And when said tokens are useless? None would be the wiser, and you'd simply remove the extra one or two from your inventory and never see/worry about them again.

New tomes or not- Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn to Grind Tokens- is really annoying.

It's running in circles.
Even now having RGN we are all copycat of the next of our class. With one more piece maybe because lucky, but sooner or later he will get his one.
RNG help to stretch this illusion to be different (and poor armor design , vanity once online if well implemented may help attempting to find uniqueness).
If you remove RGN everyone would go on the lazy boring route waiting the reset , and everyone is the same with weekly gear. Funny thing, token gear fullset is (obiouvsly?) not on par with a dropped one.
Funny thing devs made on this game? Dropped gear fullset is not the best at all. :D A nice example may be WHM allagan boots. Myth ones performs way better.
At the end to gain good performance we end up with a patchwork of gear and clownish results.
Token may ease the bad luck on your weekly CoB run,true. But then you're bored to grind them, dealing with bad luck week by week.

I can continue but i would end up talking in circles.

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Originally Posted by Gucci_Charms

I have a few friends on my list who haven't even gotten a single piece of Allagan the last couple of months because of SE's legendary RNG system. So, I'd rather see a token system dedicated specifically for Allagan gear in general. It would be cool if you get a token per Turn. This system would be somewhat similar to how Primal weapons are handled.

3 tokens = accessory
5 tokens = head, gloves, belt, boots
10 tokens = chest, pants, weapon

Such wishful thinking though :D

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This would work as well. Over 3 months and only 3 tank pieces that's complete crap.

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

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Adding Tomes to me is perfectly fine to me. I don't mind the prices on gear, It keeps us from capping gear in a few days on one job. As for the new/returning players all of it is still useful. Or at least it would be if SE took full advantage of their ilvl requirements, By forcing player to gear up to do the said ilvl content.

At some point there will be no caps on Myth but then We'll have better gear bought with new tomes that have weekly caps. And eventually all gear becomes obsolete.


Tokens or Tomes either works. I just hate RNG on Content that a lockout for a week.

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

New tomes or not- Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn to Grind Tokens- is really annoying.

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I remember in 1.0 people complained about the RNG of the items and wanted a "token based" system in place so that people can get a primal weapon even though they didn't get 1 dropped by a primal.

Now in 2.0 some people are against this system.

The RNG seems so terrible because it's a weekly lock out a long with it. I've never played a game that had RNG AND a WEEK lock out. I personally hate token systems, just give me RNG with no week lock out, maybe like a day or something.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I remember in 1.0 people complained about the RNG of the items and wanted a "token based" system in place so that people can get a primal weapon even though they didn't get 1 dropped by a primal.

Now in 2.0 some people are against this system.

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I think people are more against the implementation, not the system itself.

I think many expected the ARR token system to work similar to how the primal system did in 1.0. That is that content rewarded you with tokens to be able to just buy the gear that otherwise dropped from said content to alleviate terrible loot drop luck.

The current implementation just sucks. iLevel 90 tome rewards from content that drops ilevel55-60 gear? Meanwhile you could have been clearing coil since the release of ARR and likely not seen certain pieces of Allagan drop and it's not like you can re-run the dungeon and just do it enough until something you want drops. The itemization just has been really, really poor in ARR so far with no concept of proper loot progression.

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Originally Posted by Ladon

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Well I hope they do something cause if ARR is going to be nothing but week long lockouts and RNG then this game is going to suck after 2.2..... Good thing a lot of badass games come out soon.

I'm curious to know if...

Our current "Coil" will be obsolete.
New Coil turns will bring another gear gap, item level 110, forcing us to wait until 2.3 for level 100 gear, and bringing another false difficulty like current Coil.
AF2 will be obtainable with tokens and is behind lockouts.
We will have revelant 4-person dungeons, that we do to drop gear, and not get tokens.

Well seeing how we got AF through a quest, and relic through a quest...I would like to see an epic quest system set up for AF2. But it shouldn't be as easy to get as AF. Maybe a full-length quest (like for relic) but for each piece, tuned to a point where it will take a good amount of time and effort to get the best gear in the game.

I am against them releasing the next new top tier high level gear so fast. Come on it has not even been a year or two and you want to release new end game loot?

I still am leveling my main toon, not to mention my subs (which do not have a single allagan yet).

Do not mind if they release alternate top tier loot compatible with current gear or better looking vanity slot items.

But don't you all think it is too fast for new gear especially with current RNG systems.

Regards.

just put myth gear on Phylo tomes and new gear on mythology tomes

more currency? NO THANKS ,got tired of it in FFXI and rift , both games used lots of types of currency for every other endgame event was frustrating D:

the new gears will be some kind of loot with ilvl 100 from coil

as for tomes these ilvl100 gears will remain strongest til 2.3 then they will add ilvl100 gears through myth without cap and with way higher price

maybe double the amount AF2 price

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Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon

the new gears will be some kind of loot with ilvl 100 from coil

as for tomes these ilvl100 gears will remain strongest til 2.3 then they will add ilvl100 gears through myth without cap and with way higher price

maybe double the amount AF2 price

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No Thank. Hope this does not come true. Might be ok if you have only 1 main class but for the rest it is horrible.

I want to level up my alt. Not make all my efforts meaningless within so short a time period.

Makes me miss the old days of running Dynamis in FFXI praying for Treasure Hunter to get us some good loot.

I kinda hate that NOTHING drops from NMs anymore in XIV, it's purely coffers/tokens - what the hell's the point of adding THF then?

There'll be a forum search minigame.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Yeah I'm 100% sure the new Tomes will have a weekly cap. But I hope the Tomes will be used for CoB gear instead of this stupid RNG crap. Watched my wife get MNK legs 2 weeks in a row in a PUG, Just like I've only seen 3 piece of Tank gear drop in over 3 months. RNG sucks on content that has week long lockouts.


They'll just boost Myth tomes to like 750 a week cap I doubt they will remove it.

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Yea I don't like RNG and lockouts - that's pretty dumb. But I do like RNG in spammable dungeons like HM Primals. CT lock out is even better designed than Coil's.

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Originally Posted by cotti

There'll be a forum search minigame.

OP will have 0 points.

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And you are the Forum Search NAZI! You say the same thing or something similar in every post you make 75% of the time. It really does get old, I know you want those "Thumbs Up". Does it matter how many threads there are on the same topics we're not JP we don't roll like that. How about you start contributing something useful for a change like "many" others on these forums do. A lot of people want to help make this game better and keep it around for many years to come. So please stop Trolling and help make the game better. I know its hard for you but please try.

2.2 aint coming for another two months.

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Originally Posted by Jubez187

Yea I don't like RNG and lockouts - that's pretty dumb. But I do like RNG in spammable dungeons like HM Primals. CT lock out is even better designed than Coil's.

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Sadly CT does have a better Lockout system than CoB, If only they would fix the loot issue on the last boss. SE really has to step it up a notch when it comes to these lockouts. Not going to start turning this into a doomsday thread but, A lot of people I know have already left the game sucks. I know its going to take time to get things better, Just hope its sooner than later.

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Originally Posted by LoLo

2.2 aint coming for another two months.

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Yah late Feb/ Early Mar.

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Originally Posted by Velox

Well seeing how we got AF through a quest, and relic through a quest...I would like to see an epic quest system set up for AF2. But it shouldn't be as easy to get as AF. Maybe a full-length quest (like for relic) but for each piece, tuned to a point where it will take a good amount of time and effort to get the best gear in the game.

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Would be pretty cool to have to quest the gear and can maybe only do one piece per week. But this is SE, It will probably be on a new Tome set.

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Originally Posted by gadenp

I am against them releasing the next new top tier high level gear so fast. Come on it has not even been a year or two and you want to release new end game loot?

I still am leveling my main toon, not to mention my subs (which do not have a single allagan yet).

Do not mind if they release alternate top tier loot compatible with current gear or better looking vanity slot items.

But don't you all think it is too fast for new gear especially with current RNG systems.

Regards.

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I don't like it either gear needs a longer lifespan than 3 months. We don't have an official word on anything, But going by launch we will see 2-3 new gear sets per Patch. And now that SE is back on track I'm willing to beat that each patch will have one new top end gear set if not two. Because Yoshi did say that there would be to ways to obtain High End gear like we have Allagan/Relic.

i'm sure AF2 would be obtainable like AF1, with quests

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Originally Posted by NefGP

Makes me miss the old days of running Dynamis in FFXI praying for Treasure Hunter to get us some good loot.

I kinda hate that NOTHING drops from NMs anymore in XIV, it's purely coffers/tokens - what the hell's the point of adding THF then?

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I've pretty much given up on a THf job because I feel that even if it is released in this game it will be worthless and play crappy. If THF doesn't get daggers and can't dual wield daggers as well as steal and mug I'll level it but I def wont be gearing the job past level 50 lol. Also it better have gear af gear holter top with puffy pants.