For new dungeons/raids in 2.2 and beyond.

SE should really look how they approach achievements in this game. Currently, the achievements we have are, for the most part, time sinks. What they haven't tapped into are the achievements that make old content stay current.

Once any dungeon or raid is on farm, it becomes a boring(unless the encounters themselves are truely innovative, creative, and fun) job to clear at the start of every reset. What I've experienced in other MMOs are the achievements that keep that farm content current and fun make farm content bearable. These achievements give rewards for that category, not unlike what we've seen with some achievements here, once you complete them. The rewards for these achievements can be something as small as a title, or something as grand as a mount or a trophy to put in your house. In my post-edit, I'll give examples of achievements that take current encounters to a new level(some of which is already being done).

Binding Coil of Bahamut
Turn 1
-Kill Caduceus without feeding any slugs.
-Kill Caduceus with 8 stacks of his empowered buff(I forget the name).
-Kill Caduceus after having fed him 5 slugs.

Turn 2
-Kill ADS after killing all of his support ADS.
-On separate occasions, kill ADS with each of buffs/debuffs.
-Kill ADS within 5 clicks from the start.

Turn 3
-Complete Turn 3 in under 10 minutes(I've never actually timed it so could be drastically shorter... maybe even 3 minutes)

Turn 4
-Complete Turn 4 after having each Dreadnaught consume 4 spiders.
-(Assuming the encounter is completed after all dreadnaughts are dead)On separate occasions, complete turn 4 while leaving one each of the following remaining after all dreadnaughts are dead.
-Complete Turn 4 without the enrage pulse going off.

Turn 5(I'm sure there are many that could really push either healing or dps to a whole new level, but I myself am not as experienced on this fight)
-Complete Turn 5 after everyone successfully dodging Divebomb.
-Complete Turn 5 after only 2 conflagrations.

**After having completed all said achievements, you would reward the conqueror item, something like an ADS mount or Twintania model mount.**

Crystal Tower(These achievements would be easier)

Bone Dragon
-Defeat Bone Dragon without any skeletons reaching him.
-Defeat Bone dragon after 10 skeletons have reached him.

Thanatos
-Defeat Thanatos with all magical pots remaining.
-Defeat Thanatos after only 3 ghost cycles.

King Behemoth
-Defeat King Behemoth after everyone has successfully dodged Ecliptic Meteor
-Defeat King Behemoth without any bombs, towers, or giants destroying a comet.

Acheron
-Defeat Acheron after everyone avoiding "everything"(sounds a lot harder than you think with pugs)
-Defeat Acheron without anyone being under the effect of grip for more than 5 seconds.

Mini-bosses
-Kill all 3 Atomos within 3 seconds of each other.
-Kill all 3 Vassagos within 5 seconds of each other.
-Kill all 3 Vassagos without letting any napalm reach the middle or any balloons exploding.

**After completing all these achievements, you could get one of those crystals to put in your FC house**

All of this could/would apply to future hard-mode dungeons and current ones as well.

Please post any achievements you think would be fun additions to the game. It doesn't even have to be within dungeons and raids.

Achievements don't have to be about time sinks but skill as well.

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Originally Posted by Thriar

-Defeat King Behemoth without any bombs, towers, or giants destroying a comet.

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lol .

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Originally Posted by Thriar

-Defeat Acheron without anyone being under the effect of grip for more than 5 seconds.

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lol .

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Originally Posted by Hocchi

-Defeat King Behemoth without any bombs, towers, or giants destroying a comet.
lol

-Defeat Acheron without anyone being under the effect of grip for more than 5 seconds.
lol

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I realize some of those achievements would require a FC to coordinate, but they are skill based achievements and doable.

Hidden achievements.

LotrO has done on them pretty well. Getting to the top of a building/hill or talking to several NPC.
We once made a Kinship-Server-Event, the task was to kill 5 boars in every region to date. After they finished an achievment unlocked with the title "pork chopper". A good chunk of peopledidn't know it existed. :cool: Pretty funny.

I agree completely with the OP's point. I really enjoyed doing achievement runs in Rift, they made content interesting while on farm mode.

[Life is short - Suicider] - Jump off all the towers in Coerthas.

This would be really nice to have, and I think should definitely be implemented for 2.2.

At this point, most high-end free companies have more or less disbanded because we've become sick of the weekly 50 minutes of content, and 2.1 gave us nothing worth doing more than once.
Achievements like this, with rewards, would give us something to work towards after farming all of the content for two months.

Totally agree with you, OP.

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Originally Posted by Feilina

Hidden achievements.

LotrO has done on them pretty well. Getting to the top of a building/hill or talking to several NPC.
We once made a Kinship-Server-Event, the task was to kill 5 boars in every region to date. After they finished an achievment unlocked with the title "pork chopper". A good chunk of peopledidn't know it existed. :cool: Pretty funny.

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Ah, a fellow former Lotro player. Which server did you play on?

On a former Codemasters Server. Maiar, if you know it.

Did anyone of you play Warhammer Online? Its tome of knowledge was by far the sickest incarnation of an achievement system, aaaaaaaaaand I loved it.

- get killed by falling
- get killed naked
- slay guild leaders
- visite XYZ at noon/midnight/...
- find a monsters hidout
- survive a PVP battle with less then 10% life

And almost all achievements couldn't be seen initially. That alone was glorious.

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On a former Codemasters Server. Maiar, if you know it.

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Yeah, I know it. I've been playing on Morthond before I made the switch to FFXIV.

Goddammit, a hundred time this. My biggest disappointment with the game at this point (beside housing prices, duh) is the lack of any true fun achievements.

More than for raids, i want them for freacking endgame dungeons. Doing all the achievements for the HM dungeons in rift (at launch) with a static was the most fun i had in any mmorpg, like, ever. Just want this back. It is SO easy to implement -- litterally only a non-moronic person sitting at a table with a pencil for 2 days would solve this completely, the cost is ridiculously low in terms of develeopment, and the added fun just insane. Just do it SE.

I loved Rift's achievements. It was one thing to clear a raid. It was an entirely other thing to get conqueror for said raid.

Me: "Oh you killed akylios?"
*Takes out Armored Murdantix Mount*

Other person in another guild: "I'll just go home now"

Completing the whole Hammerknell instance was the best feeling ever. And this is after having played FFXI for 5 years. It got me addicted to raiding. Akylios, even after completing all raid content through T1 of storm legion, has to be one the best designed encounters I've played through. I never thought that Hammerknell could get any better until we started going for conqueror. What seem like fun and manageable fights became intensely hard(still fun) and challenging fights that made me want to bash my head against a brick wall when we did some of the achievements for the fights. Getting that mount was... close to orgasmic. I've yet to get that feeling in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Lament

Impossible until 24 man raids can actually be fully organized beforehand.

After that, still damn near impossible - that's too many people to coordinate on such a precise level. One person getting lag could ruin everyone's chances.

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They're only meant for the hard-core and yes they're achieveable. Not everyone is meant to do them. As I stated, this is for FCs who this content is on farm and still looking for a further challenge and a reason to farm said content. I'm not going to assume so I'm going to ask. Have you ever played another MMO with achievements similar to what I proposed?

There's a work-around to queue for CT with only your FC. You all choose the same language(not english) and confirm in a VOIP with each leader after everyone except the leaders of the three parties. Once you are 21/24 with everyone in the same pop, you can confirm that each party is from your FC.

Yeah, getting the unique mounts for clearing all achievements in a raid zone was pretty neat. Would be nice if FFXIV did something similar.

As long as the achievements don't involve something that would hinder the fights (ex: defeat ifrit hm without stunning an eruption). You wouldn't want random off-tanks in DF groups like "K GAIZ I TRY 2 GET ACHIEVEMENTS NO STUN KKK?"

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Originally Posted by Jubez187

As long as the achievements don't involve something that would hinder the fights (ex: defeat ifrit hm without stunning an eruption). You wouldn't want random off-tanks in DF groups like "K GAIZ I TRY 2 GET ACHIEVEMENTS NO STUN KKK?"

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Well there is a vote kick system in place ;) jkjk

In all seriousness, that would be a viable achievement because you have to let eruptions go through anyway in EM. Although, if I were to design an achievement based off of eruptions, it'd be, Kill Ifrit after every party member has successfully dodged Ifrit's Eruptions. That way a strat could be to stun them but otherwise you'd still have to dodge.

Complete [insert dungeon/primal] using a team of only 4 WHMs.

Something maybe a little easier, complete [insert level 50 dungeon/HM primal] using a team as their original classes (no jobs).

- Clear Dungeon XYZ with the proposed iLvl to enter.
- Haukke HM, kill strong skelleton add befor the boss
- kill boss while last ten seconds before dungeon-timeout

The problem with 2 conflags besides the fact that dps need to save cds to burn fast ones, is that shes going to conflag shortly after chain break, and her chain breaks at a specific hp % you could "never" burn her that quickly.

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Originally Posted by Conna

The problem with 2 conflags besides the fact that dps need to save cds to burn fast ones, is that shes going to conflag shortly after chain break, and her chain breaks at a specific hp % you could "never" burn her that quickly.

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You're probably right. Like I said, I'm not as experienced with turn 5. But I'm sure there could be a lot of things you could do that pushes that encounter even further.

Rock 'n Roll

- Defeat Titan Extreme Mode without being hit by a single Weight of the Land, Bomb or Landslide.

Hi vodomir, my fellow ex lotro player