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in the open world i get hit like 1 out of 100 in the instanced dung its almost impossible to get out the way even when im 3 meters from the effect ... i get hit buy it
serouisly this is not hard game play its just plain annoying game play and because its all part of my main quest im forced to do it over and over again until i find a group that can complete them otherwise its no more story:mad:
If you are getting hit by AoEs with markers and you seem to be only around 25 which is Totorak? Then I would say you are either a bad player or are having serious lag issues. And I say bad player here because it sounds like you have tried over and over and are simply not getting it.
no its the one after the manor and im lvl 34 it just hasn't updated on the fourm yet and i fail to see how i can doge all of them in the open world but on this one dragon boss with a short straight line seems to hit me no matter were i am i gave it one run we died 3 times and said stuff it
if my internet was as bad as the so called lag u say im having my game would warp im not stupid an neither are the 1k vids on utube showing the same thing
Brayfrox? And yeah if you can't dodge the breath which is really easy to dodge by the way then you will die. that last fight is all on the tank. And the lag doesn't distort the game or anything but it has been proven that there can be lag that the hit markers show up later than when the attack actually starts charging and many MANY people have issues with it and thus why I think your issue is indeed a form of lag. If for some chance it isn't lag than you and that 1k videos you found are all really bad.
It sounds like connection/lag. Are you PS or PC? I only ask, as my friend is a tank on PS3, and when we did Brayflox he could not dodge that breath for sh1t. I was his healer and he used so much of my mana as almost 90% of time I had to Esuna and spam CureII to save him. I was Ether crazy! :P He found it really difficult to evade it.
His is definately lag. He is a very remote person with wireless BB to his house; so its not great.
I think you can run through the dragon tho (to his bum)-might be quicker to avoid? Or maybe you dont see the aoe right away as you are squeezed against the wall, tanking him? (assume you use the wall-tank senario). That was my friends problem-he didnt see the aoe half the time. In the end, we did a confcall, and when it appeared I shouted him to move. It was better...he still got hit sometimes
As soon as the cast starts, move. Even if you cant see the aoe. It will benifit your healer also, as with more mana thay can keep everyone alive and look after whoever is the "chosen one" (the one to get spat on-not always the tank!) :)
Good Luck!
Stand closer to the boss so that the cone isn't as wide. You'll barely have to move and you'll have plenty of time to get out of the way.
@OP Lag can effect your response time but one way to work around aoe range is after you know the range of it, meaning after you see it used then you can compensate by speeding up your reaction to it just by a few seconds until you get it right.
You mentioned that you are repeating the same challenge so that would mean you have repetitively tried to avoid the same aoe from the same mobs so your chance of predictability should be higher. Make sure you have your chat log set to filter out unneeded messages, even if you have to dedicate a specific chat window to only show mob action messages, so that you can see the aoe attack's action message and the timestamp. It should show you where the mob is preparing the attack and how much time you have to escape after that message is posted in the log. It is a matter of compensating for timing once you have experienced the aoe range.
Lag can definitely play a part in the problem and it can be really nasty if you start getting lag spikes while fighting some of the later bosses like the HM and EX primals.
If it is continuously happening, I would make sure that I have a good connection on my end. If you are on PS3 and connecting wirelessly, maybe try going wired.
As far as what you can do in game, learn the attack patterns and aoe attack so that you can predict and quickly react to them. Also follow the shortest path to get out of the aoe, for cone attacks it is often best to just run straight and through the boss.
Mortucus, if you are talking about dragon breath from brayflox end boss, from experiments:
* don't stand in his red circle
* move out of the line and go towards the boss to the circle limit.
I dunno why, but if u stay in his red circle, u take the hit even if you out of the rectangle (at least that's what happened to me)
I don't know why no one has answered his question yet. It's a pretty simple answer.
Some abilities have shorter cast times and you will have less time to dodge them.
Landslide, for example, has a fairly long cast time and whereas Weight of the Lands has a shorter cast time. So you will see people pretty much never getting hit by Landslide but will occasionally get hit by Weight.
Since you're comparing the dragon breath to open world abilities, that's the difference. Pretty much all open world enemies have ridiculously long cast times and you'll be out of the aoe circles ages before they finish the cast.
thanks for the helpful replies as a little guy i was standing a little to far away as to help the other players see me better
i started to train fighting so close to mobs faces they would almost turn also got wtf which cut my ping down from 250 to 170 not great but made things possible
i also put the mobs cast bar timer in a more visible place so i can see it charging as another reference for aoe attacks
i was sidestepping to avoid now i just run into the big fat bosses fulgy gut and and quickly shoot back in
on a side note i still think forcing me to do them as part of main story is lame
and pals need to be able to hold hate at a better rate
lancers dps always pulls mobs and sometime a healer will pull and no matter how many flash shield bash ect ect i do u cant get hate back sometimes lol
Dragon breath has a short cast time, so you have to start moving out of it right away. However, it can also be stunned, so there is that option.
Sidestepping out of AoE seems to get people hit a lot. It's just a bad way to get hit by everything. My healer friend was getting hit a lot in Titan HM. She was sidestepping. After she started running forward out of attacks, she stopped getting hit.
PLD holds hate pretty well. Rage of Halone is your friend. One tip, especially if you lose hate early, is to pop Fight Or Flight at the start of the fight before spamming your hate combo. Also, Shield Bash does not generate hate. If you meant Shield Lob, it does generate hate, but not a lot. If you lose hate, hit it with Provoke, and then Shield Lob, and then get right on that Rage of Halone.
As Mordemi stated above, Fight or Flight is a great way to build up that initial hate on a boss.
I often pop Fight or Flight and Rampart as I'm running to the boss, get in a shield lob once I'm in range, followed with a full RoH combo and then I dump Spirits and Circle of Scorn so I can get those in while FoF is still up.
That should give you a good initial lead and as long as you keep up with your RoH combo nobody should be grabbing hate from you.