Help spending my Myth on WAR!

I'm preparing my soon to be 50 WAR with gear, and I need some advice on what to upgrade using my Myth. For now, I want to at least be able to run Turn 1-2 with it.

What I have so far:

Garuda Scream ( will be Bravura as soon as I hit 50)
Myth helm
Armor of Light
Darklight Gloves
Darklight Belt
Darklight Flanchard

All Darklight accessories, except for an Allagan Ring of Maiming

I have 1350 Myth saved up, what should my first upgrades be? I'm aiming for whatever's BiS for WARs who are main tanking!

Thanks in advance.

Gloves, Belt, Ring. All accuracy increases. Since you have the Light body you don't really need to buy Myth body right away but if the Allagan chest doesn't drop for you soon you're going to need it to stay at acc cap for 1-4 and still increase your survivability.

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Originally Posted by Runeseeker

I have 1350 Myth saved up, what should my first upgrades be? I'm aiming for whatever's BiS for WARs who are main tanking!

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If you're looking for stuff you're not going to replace with Allagan, you want Myth Gloves (Allagan hands *suck*), Myth Ring (you need 2 and it's the only one with acc *and* parry), and Myth Wrist (higher parry than the Allagan wrist and helps you not be redundant on Acc when you've gotten everything else).

If you're looking for stuff that you can buy that'll be on par with Allagan, you want Myth Chest (higher parry, lower acc than Allagan chest), Myth Pants (crit instead of det), and Myth Boots (Acc instead of Det).

The other Myth stuff I wouldn't bother with: the WAR helm is simply terrible because it has no parry *and* has speed, the Myth belt has no parry, and the Myth neck and ear both have speed (which is the worst stat, imo, because of the completely terrible rate of return).

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Originally Posted by Kitru

Myth Pants (crit instead of det)

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Reverse of that.

Also WAR helm is perfectly fine, gives more DET, STR, and VIT than the WoL helm at the cost of a little bit of extra parry chance. It's better than the Allagan helm for OTing, too.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Also WAR helm is perfectly fine

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He's already got it so it's a relatively moot point. Personally, I prefer my tank gear with tank stats on it so, if it doesn't have parry, I'm not really interested. I choose to use the CT helm rather than the Myth one for this exact reason.

But parry really doesnt matter if it does not bring you to the next Tier.

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Originally Posted by YarozeX

But parry really doesnt matter if it does not bring you to the next Tier.

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There is no way to prove that there are tiers. We don't have a parry chance that we can see on our sheet, and the variation could be nothing more than statistical anomoloy. All we have for reduction is the visible percentages when we get hit, and they could be simply rounded.

I don't know one way or the other, but I could quite happily declare that 'There is no tiering on any stat in this game' and be confident that no one could prove me wrong.

You do have a parry stat that shows when you parry. When you see 404 Damage 23% Parry. That is your parry %. Take off your gear. Agro a mob and let it attack you till you parry. I bet its 20% or 21%. Add like 4 peices of parry gear. I bet you now will parry 21 or 22%.

((Parry Stat/67)+(DEX*0.0876))/100=Parry %


This is unless I am mixing Parry % as how often you parry rather then the Mitigation form Parry.....


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After thinking about it, it has to be the chance of parry and not the mitigation from parry. So Parry is tiered as well as mitigation.

To test this Keep your STR and DEX exactly the same. Only change your +parry stats. I will with 100% garentee you will change your parry tiers.

You do not need Myths at all for t1-2, hell you can do t4 in full DL. Anyway what i took was:

Myth Ring. There's a lack of good rings, this is a great choice.
WAR chest. To replace DL stuff which doesnt have accuracy.
WAR Helm. To replace the AK helm you'll be wearing now, allagan helm drops from T5 so this is a safe choice.
WAR gloves. I bought them as one of the last pieces but its a good cheap upgrade and BiS i think.
This doesnt require you to pray for any single drop.

There arent many Allagan pieces BiS for a fresh 50. Belt and Pants are nice iirc. Focus on your accuracy first, i would advice some good HQ la noscean toast. When you have more than enough acc you should worry about the myth accesories, like bracelet, and the allagan gear like chest. Also dont get relic +1, go for the extreme axe then get your BiS going.

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Originally Posted by YarozeX

This is unless I am mixing Parry % as how often you parry rather then the Mitigation form Parry.....

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Strength is soft capped, that increases parry amount.

Parry isnt soft capped, every point of parry should do something, its just a super tiny amount, and it increases parry chance. Its hard to find your parry chance, but you can more than safely run around with a couple items without parry. The real tanks stats are the Vit and Armor that belongs to ilvl90 gear.

Parry: Damage mitigation is influenced by Strength.
Rate of parry is influenced by Dexterity and Parry.

Again when we see Parry 23% it is rounded exactly like shield block %.

Again I will say I could be wrong on what is being displayed being mitigation and not our Parry %.


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I am now thinking I am wrong on what is being displayed is Mitigation and not our parry %. Reason I am now starting to think maybe I screwed up is when you change your STR (But it might have been DEX from a Gryph Ring) it effects that % you see on your screen...... But I can't test this atm due to being at work.

Yes, it is indeed the amount of damage you parried, not the parry rate being displayed whenever you actually parry an attack.

The amount you parry for is tiered by STR, and is displayed.
Your chance to parry is not displayed and is affected by parry/dex.

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Originally Posted by MythToken

The amount you parry for is tiered by STR, and is displayed.
Your chance to parry is not displayed and is affected by parry/dex.

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There are no tiers, you just see a rounded figure. Prove me wrong.

Get the Myth helm for sole reason that Allagan helm drops from T5. Unless you have a group that you know can reliable clear T5, get the Myth helm eventually for sure. Any minor differences in 2ndary stats is far from making or breaking you, but the differences in STR/VIT/DEF? from upgrading to ilv 90 can make a difference. If you have a reliable T5 group and only want "tanking" stats, then you can ignore the Myth helm. T1-4 can be fairly easily farm with PF groups, T5 generally cannot.

I'm not sure why people don't recommend myth boots but I think these should not be over looked due to the fact that it has accuracy. I recommend getting i80 pants from ct to pair with these boots. After that I would wait for allagan body to drop and then go for i80 helm from ct since it has parry.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

The other Myth stuff I wouldn't bother with: the WAR helm is simply terrible because it has no parry *and* has speed

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I think you should not ignore how AF2 head gives you the awesome use of /visor, that's enough to make its cost worth it.

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I recommend getting i80 pants from ct to pair with these boots.

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Full disclosure, this is a fashion disaster.

I know right, I have these pants and they're utterly horrible to look at. ):

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Originally Posted by Yunnie

I'm not sure why people don't recommend myth boots but I think these should not be over looked due to the fact that it has accuracy. I recommend getting i80 pants from ct to pair with these boots. After that I would wait for allagan body to drop and then go for i80 helm from ct since it has parry.

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Main reason I think is because most people will now use Dual Haken (Ex Primal Weapons +37 Acc, +26 Parry) instead of Bravura Zenith (Skill Speed +26, +37 Parry). Dual Haken provide alot of accuracy at the cost of only 11 Parry, Skill speed is pretty useless. In the end you actually have the about the same amount parry if you use Dual Haken (as opposed to Bravura Zenith), since you don't have to slot for accuracy items in your other slots to hit cap.

My BiS list with Dual Haken Pre T-5
http://xivdb.com/?wardrobe/6095/WAR-BiS

*Allagan Pants vs Myth Pants are debatable but with the change to Inner Beast, I prefer Determination over Crit.

If i were to use the Bravura, would switch the Allagan Boots for the Myth Boots and Myth Bracelets for Allagan Bracelets. But I would gladly trade the 26 Skill Speed of the Bravura for 11 Determination and 11 Crit from the Boots and Bracelets instead.

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Originally Posted by Paikis

There are no tiers, you just see a rounded figure. Prove me wrong.

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You could be right, but prove it. The only facts are that every 40-41 str points = 1% parry displayed.

CT pants do indeed look terrible with myth boots. At least they aren't the daisy duke allagan short shorts.

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Originally Posted by MythToken

You could be right, but prove it. The only facts are that every 40-41 str points = 1% parry displayed.

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Exactly. There is no definitive proof one way or the other. However, literally nothing else in the game works in tiers, why should this? Why introduce a different type of scaling for exactly one thing?