Why such a large gap between some heals?

Been trying to figure out why sometimes my Adlo goes from 600-1100 non crit. Anyone know why such the huge difference in amounts? I asked a WHM friend of mine and he says the same thing happens to him. I read somewhere that DET increases the floor of your heal, while MND increases the roof of your heal. Is that accurate?

Tank might have had a healing buff up. Or you might have been healing a warrior.

600-1100 is an unrealistic number. Your heals should be hitting with a general gap of 50-80. the 1100 non crit was probably due to a buff were you using EOS?
my physik hits for 900-980 unbuffed the numbers would never spike greater than that.

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Originally Posted by Eccho

600-1100 is an unrealistic number. Your heals should be hitting with a general gap of 50-80. the 1100 non crit was probably due to a buff were you using EOS?
my physik hits for 900-980 unbuffed the numbers would never spike greater than that.

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I think tank may have had a buff up when I hit for 1100 non crit, didnt even think of that. My usual Adlo are for 800+ but sometimes I see it dip below 700 and idk why. My physicks are pretty regular tho.

Gladiator self buff - Convalescence. Sometimes EoS gives you a buff also. Put those two together.. 1 + 1 = 2.. MILLION?!

If you party with a good MNK you got Mantra as well.

A lot of MNKs don't use it, but I love it...whether or not people know it.

800 Adlio?! Are you ilvl90 or close to it because i'm no where near 800+ constant adlio without buffs i'm usually in the 670+ constantly without buffs and hitting the 1200 crit sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

800 Adlio?! Are you ilvl90 or close to it because i'm no where near 800+ constant adlio without buffs i'm usually in the 670+ constantly without buffs and hitting the 1200 crit sometimes.

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It must be all these damn buffs that are messing with my numbers >< I just self casted outside of a dungeon, and its 650+

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

800 Adlio?! Are you ilvl90 or close to it because i'm no where near 800+ constant adlio without buffs i'm usually in the 670+ constantly without buffs and hitting the 1200 crit sometimes.

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That is pretty normal with iLvl 85+, I have crit myself for 1100+ while standing in uldah, no buffs or anything. Put some buffs up and you can see 2k aldo crits on warriors, although it's very difficult to do that. 1600-1800 is much more normal. Paladin's, with fairy buff I crit for around 1300-1400.

Here's how you can get the biggest gap between heals and the gap is seriously big then.

Eos buff = 20% heal/magic dmg increase.
Convalescence = Tank buff which Warriors can have too 20% increase in heals done to the tank.
Thrill of Battle = 20% more heals done to warrior
Defiance = 20% more heals done to warrior
Mantra = 20% more healing done to party members near the monk

If you manage to combine all this together you can see an increase of more than double efficiency.
Then if you manage to land a critical hit it's just silly :)

Hello Karnage,

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Originally Posted by Karnage720

Been trying to figure out why sometimes my Adlo goes from 600-1100 non crit. Anyone know why such the huge difference in amounts?

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The maximum deviation from your average cure or "Healing Power" as I would call it is always ±3% (either rounded up/down according to standard rules, or always rounded down, I'm not quite certain yet); so if you see such a huge gap between your cures it must be from buffs.

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Originally Posted by Karnage720

I read somewhere that DET increases the floor of your heal, while MND increases the roof of your heal. Is that accurate?

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That information is false. MND affects your cures more than DTR, but both simply affect your average cure/healing power. There has been a lot of testing by Valk (http://valk.dancing-mad.com/methodol...reaterthanfive) and others, and I'm currently doing a bunch of testing myself.

Cheers,
Nyaanyaa

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Originally Posted by Snowaeth

Thrill of Battle = 20% more heals done to warrior

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Just to clarify. Thrill of Battle does not affect healing (other than Lustrate). It increases War's Max HP by 20% for 20 sec. Only affects Lustrate because of the % based heal

It's Defiance that adds 20% more healing, and it's a constant thing, used to be on Wrath stacks, which made it continually bounce around as far as how much it added.

You can only have at most a 3% difference from average. Just the higher your heals are the larger difference in integer value, but still only ever remains at 3%.

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Originally Posted by Snowaeth

Here's how you can get the biggest gap between heals and the gap is seriously big then.

Eos buff = 20% heal/magic dmg increase.
Convalescence = Tank buff which Warriors can have too 20% increase in heals done to the tank.
Thrill of Battle = 20% more heals done to warrior
Defiance = 20% more heals done to warrior
Mantra = 20% more healing done to party members near the monk

If you manage to combine all this together you can see an increase of more than double efficiency.
Then if you manage to land a critical hit it's just silly :)

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I crit a War for 4400 with a Cure II in a WP speed run. It was lights out for me. THAT AGGRO QQ

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Originally Posted by JonFarron

I crit a War for 4400 with a Cure II in a WP speed run. It was lights out for me. THAT AGGRO QQ

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LMAO. Thats insane.

I beleive that with Divine Seal + Fairy Buff + Convalescence + Defiance + Mantra + Healing pot you can crit a Cure II for 5400 - 6000 hp which is fun, I can't see a reason for this to used...ever but still fun to push those big numbers out :D

OP - likely just Tank buffs that you don't notice. Can't think of any other reason for heals to be skewed that much otherwise.

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Originally Posted by ToxiqFyre

I beleive that with Divine Seal + Fairy Buff + Convalescence + Defiance + Mantra + Healing pot you can crit a Cure II for 5400 - 6000 hp which is fun, I can't see a reason for this to used...ever but still fun to push those big numbers out :D

OP - likely just Tank buffs that you don't notice. Can't think of any other reason for heals to be skewed that much otherwise.

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Yea it was due to buffs.