Just curious what everyone is running, we're starting to get most of our group in ilvl 90 gear, and I don't know where I should be standing dps wise. Anyone have parses of their group they can post just for comparison?
Edit: If you could break it down by class that would be extremely helpfull
What's your Twintania DPS?
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12-28-2013, 01:20 PMTabanWhat's your Twintania DPS?
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12-28-2013, 08:49 PMMenta
I will upload one next week , already killed this and had no parse on :(
But you know that DPS in this fight change a lot with phases or jails/conflagrates -
12-29-2013, 03:14 AMTaban
Yeah, I know it changes, we're generally getting to divebomb/early twister phase, but it's helpful just knowing where I should be standing.
I appreciate the help :) -
12-29-2013, 01:06 PMkyorakun
If you have enough dps to get past divebombs phase, then you can beat the fight.
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02-11-2014, 10:11 AMGreywolfamakir
Last kill of my Group:
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02-11-2014, 10:42 AMPinworms
Am I reading that image wrong or are you doing 320 dd as a tank? Also I think if there was a way to break it down per phase it would be better for people to know if they are lacking in a portion; I don't think we can though. Some phases fluctuate and 200 dps won't cut it in certain phases.
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02-11-2014, 12:03 PMwrightstuf
My observation...
Twintania has 544000 hps with a 13 min enrage.
Subtract 1 min 40 sec for snake phase while Twin is flying around.
Subtract maybe lets say 30 sec to down the adds at the beginning before all jump on Twin.
Subtract lets say another 30 sec killing Dreads...leaving 10 min 20 sec.
That works out to 220 dps needed from 4 dpsers...but...you have 2 tanks doing "some" dps. i'd say maybe 200dps for both of them....so..
tada ... an avg of 176 dps -
02-11-2014, 07:06 PMItseotleDid your DRG suffer a death? His DPS and hit count seems low in comparison to the rest of your group. I only ask cuz I have yet to down it as DRG, but I always out parse our BLM and often our SMN too, and sit around mid to high 200's by the time we get to snakes, depending on conflags ofc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir
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02-12-2014, 01:39 AMGreywolfamakir
Hello
DPS in Twintania can change highly each try becouse Conflags, Dread fixate, and Fire (During last Phase). DRG can do really low DPS if get Conflags, and every Dread spawns DRG has to move away until Twintania stuns someone. During last phase, Twintania cast "Fire" to someone, if You is playing like melee or like BLM will get less DPS, I mean, I posted our damage for ppl who wanna know how much DPS You need in Twintania, but Its not exact.
In this kill of Twintania, I had good luck becouse I get 1 conflag only, no Dread, no Fire during last phase, that is the main reason of my good DPS, and our DRG was cursed during this kill She was targeted by Twintania's fires during last phase and She lost a lot of DPS running around the room.
WAR is doing 160 DPS becouse He is geared almost full DPS since You dont need 2 Tanks, Its better 1 Tank hard to kill and 1 Tank witt high DPS, out MT is a PLD and He is not in the image, but He was doing less DPS, like 75-85. -
02-12-2014, 05:23 AMWutangRZA
Here's last week's kill: http://i.imgur.com/9hvS8JL.png
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02-12-2014, 05:31 AMAlistaire
Isn't this a bad idea for a thread when screenshots of a guy getting a warning on his account for running a parser have been going around? Just sayin...
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02-13-2014, 01:33 AMGrotesque
Comparisons are meaningless if different parsers with different settings are used, because they differ widely in the end result. (for example, two parsers, 240 DPS vs. 280 DPS on the same monk in the same fight, one was FFXIVAPP and a rather unknown so I forgot the name) Not really reliable for comparison reasons.
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02-13-2014, 01:46 AMPinwormsYea I was reading it wrong. Yea your dps for the group is good to go. Both images seem to be pretty accurate to down her. Do you guys fill that you would have problems on a fast conflag or snakes if one of your dd wasn't there and someone else was in their place? Our group has around 260-280, but our mnk usually tops 300 sometimes higher. I think our dd is fine even if the mnk was doing 260-280, but I have been told otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinworms
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02-13-2014, 07:03 PMTears-of-Death
Monks should do about 300+ dps a fight as it goes. About everything else seems right. Just need to make sure that your healers both contribute to dps on asciep as whm can go full cleric stance and your sch too as he can spot lustrate from cleric stance. That's the best way to ensure you get him down.
As long as people don't die in phase 4 you should be golden. I have less than 20 hours of experience being a scholar healer on twin and it's not too bad. The fight isn't hard but communication is ultimately the only thing that will keep you from winning. -
02-14-2014, 01:55 AMGreywolfamakir
Hello
I agree with You about the fight is not hard, but I disagree with You about communicacion, I mean, Healers should know what is their main "target" to heal, Tank or Party, but DPSs and Tanks (Each Tank should know what He is doing) dont need to communicate to much, I mean, my static group of Coil are in Team Speak during Raid, but We don't speak a lot, just trolling or joking, but We dont need to say anything about mechanics or notices during encounters, including Twintania.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tears-of-Death
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02-14-2014, 02:27 AMThoraukuAgreed with this. The only chat that you can read in our chatlog during the encounter is the macro timer for death sentence which is most of the time not that accurate due to queue times of Twintania skills, and the timer for dive bomb. Other than that, there's really no need for communication if and only IF everyone knows their role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir
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02-14-2014, 04:06 AMSubucnimorning
We communicate timers for dive bombs and death sentences/twister for Twintania. It is useful sometimes since tunnel visioning can happen, especially during Twisters.
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02-18-2014, 06:53 AMZarzakQuote:
Originally Posted by Taban
As I'm sure someone has mentioned. DPS is very hard to gauge due to random factors if your talking about across the whole fight. Your top dps 1 day could be 4th the next due to conflags/fireballs/dreadknights.
The best gauge (IMO) is to ask a simple question "does your group always beat the conflag timers" (aka no matter who is in do the other 3 dps kill it in time) this is not including flukes.. But if your consistently dieing to conflag whenever X player is in the conflag then he is likely carrying one of the other dps in terms of your overall numbers.
the snakes are another good indication. Do you kill them in time? If so your dps is solid. -
02-20-2014, 02:38 AMArfiel
Did not save screenshots, but did record: http://www.twitch.tv/roboratz/c/3743....rBAZN6YZ.dpuf
DPS results were:
BLM 304
BRD 290+ (don't recall the last digit)
SMN 220
DRG 190 (had a few melee fireballs/dreadknight) -
02-20-2014, 11:39 AMaldoxzx
You guys need to specify which app you are using because they differ by quite a bit sometimes. I know FFXIV is always much higher than ACT in my experience.
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02-26-2014, 09:41 PMGrotesque
Yesterday, we did 2/2/4 the first time, FFXIVAPP yielded:
Mnk 310
Brd 270
BLM 280
SMN 240
We have to admit that we got lucky with Conflags at P2 and Fireballs in P5.
It was nice to see how much easier this fight is with a WAR main tank and a PLD OT over the 1/2/5 tactic we did before. If DPS is good enough for the snakes, then P4 and P5 are a walk in the park (lol @permastun Dreadknight, lol @soaking all hatches even with fire on PLD). However, in P2 Tanks switched after each DS. -
02-26-2014, 10:52 PMAlcyon1Erm ..... SHOULD DO, when they could be in a conflag, stunned by the knight or running to place the liquids. Seriously, stop giving stupid numbers like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tears-of-Death
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02-26-2014, 11:18 PMThoraukuExactly the reason why I don't vouch for parsers alot. It is really situational.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alcyon1