Please nerf all classes!!!!

Please square, listen to me, ... really getting sick of this and its ruining pvp...

Please nerf bard: they do high burst, are unkitable almost due to most skills being instant, and do really good damage over time too

Please nerf warrior: they do such high damage for tanks, almost comparable to dps, especially when left alone

Please nerf palas.. they are almost impossible to kill and have 3 (THREE!!!) stuns... unbelievably OP when most classes dont even have 1 interupt

Please nerf smn, they have battle rezzers, pro damage AND mortal strike effect and stongest slow in 1 spell.. unbelievable op

Please nerf white mages, they sleep, are super beefy and can kite /tank 3 dps at once

Please nerf dragoon, not only are they THE most mobile dps, their burst is insane

Please nerf scholar, even when they kite, their fairy heals like the whole enemy party, add to that that they have mortal strike effect, so unfair

Please nerf black mage, they can spam 30 sec sleeps on all enemy party, i mean how unfair is that!!

Also, nerf monk, i have seen good monks kill healers solo, do double the damage over time of a dragoon, and they even look amazing when they do their moves, completely cooler weapons than summoner / scholar too. Seems for me a good reason to nerf.

Ok so now that we have nerfed all classes, and dumbed them down to the bare minimum, maybe people can start blaming their own lack of gear, coordination and *gulp* skill... and adjust, and L2P.

This game is lovely, and its pvp is lovely too. It has some gamebreaking bugs like bunny hopping, and sure, instant rezzing is quite strong (which probably needs some nerf), also they should probably give some meelee classes a stronger slow than 20%) but hell the pvp is out less than a week and no competative element is implemented yet. Just try to enjoy your class, improve and make nice premade teams with your friends, use voice chat and really start playing a bit more "pro".

Merry xmas and stop the F***** whining already.

Seripha

Please nerf dragoon, not only are they THE most mobile dps, their burst is insane

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ur freeking hilarious

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Originally Posted by x037x

people who cry about getting flamed in Titan HM when they don't even bother studying the fight before hand etc... etc... What they really truly want is to WIN, but they are not willing to do what is demanded of them from the game under the current prescribed conditions.

Do you notice the only people whining and rushing to the forums are the losers?

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notice the 2 classes defending the status quo are the ones with the aoe sleep and slow/mortal strike thats ranged that can be placed on multiple targets i dont see any threads saying dragon is OP

and seriously you come on here and stroke your epeen cuz ud get ur ass kicked in the real world if you mouthed off like that i wouldnt kill you in real life but if u were dying in front of me id watch with a smile on my face

Haha this whole thread is full of awesome. Glad to see these forums aren't full of the entitled HC wannabe masses. 100% agree with everything mentioned by x037x and Seripha. Keep up the good work.

Yes, MNK very strong. Need Balance. Concern. wow

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Yes, MNK very strong. Need Balance. Concern. wow

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Much trubble.

So scare.

Wow.

Hmmmmmm...not taking bait...get a better lure.

World of Warcraft 2.0: An Arena Reborn

Trollthread lol

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Trollthread lol

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Definitely agree. A poster that comes to a thread and demands that every class be nerfed is either:

A: A troll
B: A soccer mom that also demands there will be no keeping score in the games so everyone is a winner and gets a trophy because her little Johnny has been fed with silver spoon and has no desire to place any effort into anything his entire lifetime and it would be unfair for him not to win automatically just for showing up.

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i wouldnt kill you in real life but if u were dying in front of me id watch with a smile on my face

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god you need a bullet in the head

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You've got some serious issues.

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Originally Posted by Tanama

You've got some serious issues.

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he does, just ignore him. and seraph1m, you just got reported.

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Definitely agree. A poster that comes to a thread and demands that every class but their own be nerfed is either:

A: A troll
B: A soccer mom that also demands there will be no keeping score in the games so everyone is a winner and gets a trophy because her little Johnny has been fed with silver spoon and has no desire to place any effort into anything his entire lifetime and it would be unfair for him not to win automatically just for showing up.

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lol except the OP did nerf her own class and jobs. selective reading is in fact selective...btw you missed the point of the OP. she want ppl to quit QQ over the perception of OP classes in pvp. if you didnt had your head in the sand you would have noticed that.


also: LOL ironically, your second point represent the majority of these pvp whiners on this forum

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You've got some serious issues.

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Yeah seraph1m gets helpful poster of the year award LOL

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lol god you need a bullet in the head

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Yeah don't say stuff like this. This forum is very very picky, and you are going to be banned. You are on borrowed time as we speak, even though everyone should know you aren't being serious. Least I hope not :)

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btw you missed the point of the OP. she want ppl to quit QQ over the perception of OP classes in pvp. if you didnt had your head in the sand you would have noticed that.

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No I did not miss it, it was a complete troll post and I stated it outright. Perhaps my sarcasm on the soccer mom (geared toward those that seriously QQ on pvp) simply flew over your head?
I corrected my post to delete the portion of the troller failing to mention their own class – the point of my original reply remains unaffected by this change.

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also: LOL ironically, your second point represent the majority of these pvp whiners on this forum

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Nothing ironic about it.

How does it feel to see Yoshida openly state that SMN damage currently far exceeds that of other classes? All that "QQ" about SMNs being OP, and all the rude retorts from said SMNs. Turns out the "QQers" were right. Same with the people exploiting jumping excessively. More often than not, it's SMN/SCH/WHM that are abusing this! What a coincidence! Maybe we can see Holy nerfed down a bit too? Pretty ridiculous when a WHM can run in head first, and pull top DPS with Holy and Aero, because the enemy team is to crippled from stuns, slows, and sleeps of WHM/SMN/BLM teams.

I liek Fresh Meat

Let's just make a special pvp class with 1 ability and everyone just spams that. Perfect balance!

The hyperbole is amusing, but it doesn't change the fact that PvP is an abysmal joke in this game.

Continue to defend 30 second CC's and the plethora of other glaring issues though, by all means; it's amusing to those of us who have experienced decent PvP in other games.

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The hyperbole is amusing, but it doesn't change the fact that PvP is an abysmal joke in this game.

Continue to defend 30 second CC's and the plethora of other glaring issues though, by all means; it's amusing to those of us who have experienced decent PvP in other games.

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And continue to whine about a 30 second cc when it occurs on BOTH sides of matches and is only used by a couple classes, has diminishing, is easily avoidable ( I watch my position with whm and blm on opposite team- how about you) and easily mitigated with an action that can be obtained by anyone with a few wins or by a number of actions including esuna and leeches. You can also use food buffs and materia to manage sleep. Let me guess- you have 30 second CC’s because your first choice was a dps option so you could scream about CCs being 30 seconds and unfair while pointing at your high dps at the end of a losing match? (continued)

(continued from above) Wins are not all about just dps and perhaps purchasing purify first and avoiding those BLM and WHM’s instead of running right at them might do wonders for being a productive part of your team and understanding that sleep is not any more an issue than the advantages of other classes.

Yes, I am a BLM and those 30 second CC's impact me the same as anyone else.

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@realistic1, Not every team has a BLM or WHM, so it isn't on both sides. Purify has a 4 minute cooldown. Healers are often targeted to interrupt and stun casting, so esuna/leeches are more often not an option. All the while, multiple members of your party are out of the fight for nearly a minute. It's not whining if there is a real problem. Back in WoW: Burning Crusade, Sap initially lasted for 1 minute on players. Polymorph lasted for 30 seconds on players. It didn't take too long for it to become a huge issue, and crowd controls were put on short durations for PvP for a good reason. Some team compositions had far too much control.

But sleep has the 'potential' to be on both sides. Purify can be shorted to almost half the time with points and most of the healers I see on both sides do remove sleep so esuna and leeches ARE a valid option. If people are getting slept for 30 seconds, it is their play style and choices not the CC that is the issue. In a pug, I have the same chance as you in coming across a whm or blm whether that be an opposing pug player or 3 man premade. As I stated before, I try to avoid putting myself in a position to get sleep cast on me, I suggest the same.

The difference being, you are a BLM, so your team will always have it. Sleep and Weight are two of the only status effects that last longer than 12 seconds, and even really call for the reduced cooldown on Purify. You can sit through a few stuns, that have diminishing returns, and live. Then you get to run free for a whole minute immune to stuns. If you get Swiftcast Sleeped, Purify out of it, and get put to sleep again, you're still asleep for 15 seconds. Not to mention the instant cast AoE sleep that BLM can take as a PvP skill. 15 more seconds of sleep, on the enemy group, without sucking up your Swiftcast, and the next sleep is still 15 seconds. Try all you want to defend it, but it doesn't matter if it can be on both sides of the fight, it's still broken. Crowd control abilities that can turn a 4v4 into a 4v1 for nearly a minute should not go unchecked.