You shouldn't even be allowed to queue up for PvP if you don't have full PvP gear. Wasn't the intention to keep PvE and PvP separate? No one wants someone with AF1 on their team, and no one wants to guess if their allagan weapons are better than pvp weapons or not. If it turns out morale doesn't have a big enough effect to make PvE gear worthless in PvP, or that allagan weapons are always the best no matter what, that's kind of silly, right? It's also kind of silly for the best gear set to wear be a mix of PvP and high end PvE gear. It should either be entirely separate, or just remove morale and let us use PvE gear with no detriment.
Edit: Sorry, meant to say "PvE equipment shouldn't be allowed in PvP" in the title.
PvE weapons shouldn't be allowed in PvP
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12-25-2013, 01:13 PMHirukePvE weapons shouldn't be allowed in PvP
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12-25-2013, 01:24 PMRegis
wut
Preventing people from queue-ing would make match making take longer which would be more annoying in my opinion -
12-25-2013, 02:19 PMPharacelcusIf you get the bulk of PVP gear from participating in PVP, how would one go about doing PVP at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiruke
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12-25-2013, 02:41 PMLongNuAbsolutely not. This is silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiruke
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12-25-2013, 02:53 PMZintairReally? You really think it's the weapon that is causing you to lose?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiruke
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12-25-2013, 06:00 PMCoraline
It makes no sense when people argue that pve gear is better than pvp gear. It is not that hard to craft a pvp set or buy it off the market board.
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12-25-2013, 09:06 PMGooner_iBluAirJGR
So your telling me you want me to put on that ugly i55 pvp set until I can afford to buy that slightly less ugly i70 set?
NO SIR I WILL NOT. I will not compromise my shine! -
12-25-2013, 09:08 PMLongNui55 PvP gear set is worse than i90 PvE in virtually every way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coraline
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12-25-2013, 11:59 PMVejjiegirlIs this true?Quote:
Originally Posted by LongNu
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12-26-2013, 12:11 AMWarthainif you have i90 pve the stats compensate the lack of morale... if you have darklight or lower... go with i55 pvp...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl
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12-26-2013, 12:13 AMStarrywisdomWeird I haven't seen any math to backup anything in regards to the effect of morale, how about some links bud?Quote:
Originally Posted by LongNu
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12-26-2013, 12:15 AMEpistaneThis. If you have AK gear, AF1, etc etc. Go i55 PvP gear. If you've got i90 PvE then stick with it and replace with i70 PvP pieces. It's best to mix and match ofcQuote:
Originally Posted by LongNu
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12-26-2013, 01:47 AMFyreus
They should consider brackets for 50 caps like average gear scores so a *60~69 group can play each other so you know what to expect when you cue.
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12-26-2013, 01:54 AMBrandoH
OP is stupid. Why are you posting in what has to be a troll thread? Cut it out, guys.
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12-26-2013, 01:56 AMBrandoH
Also, 55 PVP set sucks, and I destroy them in 90 PVE set. The miniscule amount of morale doesn't help against the sheer stats of good gear. Should only purchase 55 HQ's if you're replacing Darklight or lower gear.
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12-26-2013, 06:17 AMrkpost
PvP should be separated by ilvl, not lvl. Thats the problem.
There is no sense lvl 50 PvP because mix players with ilvl 50 and 95, is insane. -
12-26-2013, 09:51 PMMegidoAs tank who wants morale for dmg over parry and vitality, i disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongNu
As a healer who would get focused a lot, i would disagree.
As a dps fighting a team that has any semblance of a clue and switches targets, i would disagree.
If i would run cheese comp and could sleep my way to victory (literally and figuratively) i would agree.
Now does that 50 morale pay off for dps when he already has the rest of his pvp set done and has full pve ilvl90 accesories? Who knows. I'd just mix and match whichever has the most usefull secondary stat.
Morale always helps. Against everything. Focused by 3 guys? Morale is helping against it all, while also boosting dmg. Did you get slept? Bet you're hoping that the kill target has as much morale as he can. Your statement was waaay too broad. -
12-26-2013, 11:07 PMTaneshimaPopura
iLvl 55 item is no way stronger than PvE iLvl90, Unless the iLvl 90 PvE item has no Parry/Acc then it is stronger than iLvl70 PvE. iLvl 90 flat out beats everything even weapons vs Allagan version when Pentamelded. This is as far as my knowledge as a Rank 22 Marauder can give you. In fact I'd dare say most healer will go for Vit/Determination ring at iLvl 90 cause it is much better than the Healer Accessories available, for Tanks we use STR ones.
If at current stage you come in with full PvE iLvl90 I WILL eat you in 5 seconds flat no question upon CD pop. Not even requiring Full Swing.