Vote Kick abuse needs to end.

I don't know if anybody of importance is going to see this, but this is a huge problem as of the patch.

For the third time today while solo queuing for Crystal Tower, I was vote kicked by a premade group so that they could rig the distribution of loot in favor of their own healer. From checking the official forums and reddit, this is an extremely common occurrence. People are getting vote kicked for the same exact reasons across the board, just to rig loot. This is something that needs to stop being overlooked. Everyone needs to file official reports to square enix every time this happens. I have yet to get a response to my ticket so I've brought the issue here as well. Do not let this go unpunished. This kind of abuse is a huge waste of time and a huge cause of grievance. Square Enix, you must take this more seriously than you are so far.

Just report and move on. It doesn't happen that often.

3 times in one week is pretty often.

I haven't had this happen once. If its really an issue form your own pt through party finder or shouts and then que for CT.

I havent gotten that before, but thats because i DF to try and learn the fight mechanics on any one of my various classes, and each time i get 'How dare you you f*$%ing noob use DF to learn the fight, thats what party finder is for" why do i suddenly miss the days when i was asked to leave parties for Titan HM for not knowing the fight and told to use DF to learn them....

I understand people what to win, but if others can't learn them, then this system is broken. I have said it 1000's of times, but i wish this game had a Final Fantasy Community and not an MMO Mentality

It didn't happen to me or when I was in and I mostly use DF but I already heard too many people abusing the kick vote, on the other hand it was a problem too when you couldn't do anything about bad behaviour and AFK. I'm not against your point but I think we as a community should elaborate more the discussion like: how can this be improved?

I too have felt your pain. 1 cure, and I wait till tank is almost dead.....pulls all agro from tank. The group finds this to be the healers fault.....and kicked. Or i'm tanking, but instead of going at a decent pace the newbies want to stop to smell the roses.....i just want my damn reward....or tanking NEVER lose agro or cause healer to work too hard.......kicked for not marking targets........people can be a$$holes, and I agree with vote kick being removed........however, i would like to be able to replace a disconnected player. I could share multiple stories, but i will limit it to telling you i spend 90% of my time in duty finder. This has happened to me across multiple classes around 6 times this week. As a tank or healer I say who cares requeue. As an archer who waited +30 minutes and was kicked because tank could not hold agro after 1 minute in my attitude changed a little. I thought it was bs to waste my valuable time, and have to do it again was rather upsetting.

I have to agree with Seezur_Undies post, there are truly some jerks on this game, found my self on the wrong end of being kicked from a trial, for what, the tank not doing his job properly, rather than help them, they wud rather jus throw abuse at those who are new and trying to learn the game and how to fight the bosses and/or the trial primals..... I think it is disgusting, there are way too many gamers with a whole bad MMO attitude nowadays rather than what I can remember as being a good final fantasy community as in I remember experiencing in FFXI

I agree its not just those kicks though its the fact not everyone is great are the best at any game. I am family man and have kids that are up my butt at times I my miss something are like this time I didn't move out the way quick enough from an attack and it was a main mission I needed. and I got kicked with no warning and I think that messes up a game I mean if you don't want people to play figure out a way to make your own party and have them go in with you because just like everyone else here I pay a monthly fee to play the game as well so before you kick a person don't you think you need to know what is going on first because everyone has made mistakes before and had to start somewhere.

I've recently been using the DF primarily to do low-level dungeons to level some characters. In low-level dungeons I havent seen this as an issue.

Yeah I agree, I suggested that they remove the option and instead add if you are afk and not moving inside the dungeon you get auto kicked like 1 minute 30 seconds.

This way nobody has that kind of power, SE trusted them with the power they abused it and now they need to take it away and do what I said, I remember this was supposed to be for afk or people who passed out in the dungeon but now its much more of a problem than that.

Since a lot of people are using parsers in the game which I don't even like or some elite players are downing someone, plus I noticed so many people getting kicked and posting about it, this should be a problem.

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

Yeah I agree, I suggested that they remove the option and instead add if you are afk and not moving inside the dungeon you get auto kicked like 1 minute 30 seconds.

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Ok, but what if f.e. someone said he must go afk for a while (i don't know - f.e. hers/his child is crying) and she/he will be afk longer than 1 minute 30 seconds? In your system they would also get the auto kick. And why would that happened if the other players said it's ok for the one to be afk for a while...?

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Originally Posted by Meduz

Ok, but what if f.e. someone said he must go afk for a while (i don't know - f.e. hers/his child is crying) and she/he will be afk longer than 1 minute 30 seconds? In your system they would also get the auto kick. And why would that happened if the other players said it's ok for the one to be afk for a while...?

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Its far better than getting kicked by someone who thinks they are the boss of the dungeon. Also my answer to your question, how often do you see that happen? cause I haven't since I have been playing, I have seen more kicking than I have seen baby's crying and sorry but the kick option is very abusive and im not saying my time is right it could be at SE's limit cause sorry its out of hand.

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Originally Posted by HeroSamson

Its far better than getting kicked by someone who thinks they are the boss of the dungeon. Also my answer to your question, how often do you see that happen? cause I haven't since I have been playing, I have seen more kicking than I have seen baby's crying and sorry but the kick option is very abusive and im not saying my time is right it could be at SE's limit cause sorry its out of hand.

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How often do i see that? Quite often. There are various reasons for going afk that can last longer than 1min30s.

But on the basis of your suggestion I've got a little bit different one:

After that magic 1min30s (or 2min - for a round number) there should be an automatic votekick, not auto kick. So if someone said she/he must go afk and the other ppl said it's okay, then they would just click "decline" on the votekick...

For the record I have never been kicked from a dungeon. Although I completely understand it does happen, and not always fairly.
However, I have had to go afk for 5 minutes or more in dungeons on a number of occasions. One time my mother was going out of town and had to stop by sooner than anticipated. Another time I got an important phone call for a job. My companion animals often need attention during my dungeons, such as let in/outside. I've also had to tend to food quickly while in a dungeon due to my significant other being occupied with an important call. People's lives don't just stop because they are playing a game that may require their near full attention. Nor should the rest of the team be expected to wait and accommodate a player with a busy life. Of course people should put the appropriate amount of time aside in order to run a dungeon. But on the same note, why not give patient and understanding players the choice to allow people the time they may need during a dungeon?

Well how about letting player set the time for being afk 5-10 minutes being the max if they don't make it back in that time it kicks them in 20/20 seconds which gives them a chance to save themselves.

I think having a person have no actions (because they could just autofollow if they were afk), for 2 minutes, makes the eligible for vote dismiss. Now, if this person said beforehand "Hey, i gotta goto the bathroom" and the people in his group like him, they they do not need to kick him, they just have the option to at 2 minutes afk. However, the vote kick system right now is really bad with players using it for basically anything, and as far as I can see, it only needs 1 additional vote in a 4 man to pass (original starter, and 1 other person), which seems like it is 50%, which is not a majority!