Random English Parties Using Search On Your Server?

Do they happen or are they dominated by Japanese like on Cornelia. I envy their ability to form random leve link/nm pt's using /shout & pt search. I wish the same could be said of the English speaking population here, but I guess it's too small & LS centric. Perhaps it's better on a more balanced world?

too bad, the party search system is not good enough at this moment. we need better party seeking system.

The Japanese use it fine on Cornelia. It has nothing to do with it not being good enough, it is the fact the player base refuses to use it.

If they add FFXI's party search like everyone is demanding it will actually be far far more limiting then the current system.

This is an example of a trait of us NA players... We are stubborn and very very resistant to change. The search would work perfectly if everyone uses it... but it does not work at all unless people use it.

There for the search is not the problem, it is the players.

English community isnt small, just ignorant for the most part.

Party search system right now is good, it does what it does. But, its not good enough, though i will probably blame it because most players are too used to FFXI's search system.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

The Japanese use it fine on Cornelia. It has nothing to do with it not being good enough, it is the fact the player base refuses to use it.

If they add FFXI's party search like everyone is demanding it will actually be far far more limiting then the current system.

This is an example of a trait of us NA players... We are stubborn and very very resistant to change. The search would work perfectly if everyone uses it... but it does not work at all unless people use it.

There for the search is not the problem, it is the players.

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first of all.... please let us have an access to the party search window in one button

>.> is 2 buttons really that difficult

we don't use the system because we do not like the system. i party with my ls when i want to do things. otherwise i farm or craft. if i don't like a system i don't use it and it is really that simple.

That is your choice, but to claim the system does not work is false though.

As I said it is the NA population making it not work... not the design of it. People are selectivly choosing to refuse to use it.. then complaining it is not working.

The issue with only doing things in a linkshell is what happens when you are online in a time the linkshell is not. The game is horrible solo.... unless you just like solo grinding. There are countless people who quit due to lack of partying... around 30 of the people who quit my linkshell that was the primary cause... 10 of my people from my shell on XI went back to Paradox on XI for that simple reason. It is a massive game breaking problem square cannot solve for many many people, yea alot of SE's primary mmo fan base likes party based leveling... hard for some people to believe I know.

And until the community stops the "We are making a statement" and just starts to use the tools given to us in the game in this respect the game will continue to degrade. There is a reason the party search is way way back on the back burner... because the one we have simply works fine.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

That is your choice, but to claim the system does not work is false though.

As I said it is the NA population making it not work... not the design of it. People are selectivly choosing to refuse to use it.. then complaining it is not working.

The issue with only doing things in a linkshell is what happens when you are online in a time the linkshell is not. The game is horrible solo.... unless you just like solo grinding. There are countless people who quit due to lack of partying... around 30 of the people who quit my linkshell that was the primary cause... 10 of my people from my shell on XI went back to Paradox on XI for that simple reason. It is a massive game breaking problem square cannot solve for many many people, yea alot of SE's primary mmo fan base likes party based leveling... hard for some people to believe I know.

And until the community stops the "We are making a statement" and just starts to use the tools given to us in the game in this respect the game will continue to degrade. There is a reason the party search is way way back on the back burner... because the one we have simply works fine.

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you blame the players for not using a system they do not like as the reason it does not work? it does not work because it is not convenient to use and this is a game and a game is meant to be fun not work to get a party.

as far as doing things with my linkshell i am on at different times of the day and night and if i want a party i get a party. that is a non issue for me. i never said i solo i said i farm. there is a difference between trying to level up and going to copperbell to get a few stacks of drake scales to use to rank my alchemist or going to nawana to get cotton bolls.

until the game becomes more fun the community will continue to not use systems they do not like. this game continues to degrade because the thing they forgot to add into the game was the fun factor. if it is a headache to set a search then wait for hours to fill a party then people will not use it.

you are right we are selectively choosing to not use a system we do not like and that is our choice.

edit: btw you keep saying people say it doesn't work....look back through the thread you were the only one that mentioned it at all until this post. i only stated it because you did so. the system does work, but it is not efficient and it is not convenient so people do not use it.

Hey guys lets get a party together for leves, lets make sure everyone has the same leves and are in the correct level range and plan to stay for the whole time...wait how do i type that in the party search tool again?

Just add it to the message box when you open the recruitment window.

I agree that players are resistant to use it, which is their problem.

I'm not a fan of the system either, but it gets the job done.

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Originally Posted by TonyMontana

Hey guys lets get a party together for leves, lets make sure everyone has the same leves and are in the correct level range and plan to stay for the whole time...wait how do i type that in the party search tool again?

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You could try sending the party leader a tell and ask them what they're doing if their party description isn't specific enough. In the same way a party leader would send you a tell with details of what they were doing if they were in FFXI. The role has been reversed but making a party is not some insanely impossible task.

Current lfp/sea system is not up to par. It has far too few options and is clunky. They said they'll be working on it though, when? not till after 1.18 is all we know.

Since getting my head around it, I love it. Can't see the issue myself.

Only thing it needs is a little streamlining, and the reactivation of /search

There are lots of english shouts for levelink parties on Besaid, especially for Broken Water and ESPECIALLY for Dunesfolk leve.

It's not really hard to find leve link parties on Besaid, most LSs have leve parties every reset, and a good amount (probably 40-50%) of my Behest parties have turned into leve parties in between Behests. On top of all that, there are always random people at Aetherytes looking to do leves.

The biggest problem with the party window is that it doesn't support autotranslate. Adding that and a looking for party flag would go a long way towards making it easier on pickup groups. Of course, leves themselves need to be changed up so that people aren't always just failing the Broken Water 3 and Levinshower or whatever. Also leve names need to be in autotranslate.

"Also leve names need to be in autotranslate." <-- this

Then maybe the Japanese would try grouping with none Japanese players. If anyone is ignorant its them.

When I'm recruiting via the search function or shouting I go to YG and from their site you can copy and paste the guildleve names in JP. I always get NA and JP in my parties. Try it out.

Yeah the search is ok but its not good i dont like how you have to figure what camp someone is @ to find a party.

Also I wish people would stop using Jap that is very offensive to our jp players and some of them do come to these forums.

party system¿?.........oh u mean the crap party LFM system? no1 use it on my server .........why would they?

What can i say Firon, i'm a fan of the old war films.

I use it all the time. In fact just yesterday I put together a full party for BW3 and levin. Everyone enjoyed it and we got great SP. On Selbina you see alot of shouts in the morning, both japanese and english. However, at night is when the server just seems to die and no one talks at all.

Heya!

I surely hate to say this, but when I want to search for a party, I only see Japanese players recruiting in the Party Search System, and to put the icing on the cake, they search for their LS members. Everytime I see that I'm like "how... why... what" and on the shouts I see more Japanese players looking for party.

I myself want to use the Party Search System, but when I use it, I pass all the hour in an idle state and no one joins my party. When I go shout for a party, almost no one would reply me, and when I give a Japanese touch (yeah, I can speak weeaboo a little) a Japwagon wants to enter my party, then half of them discover that I'm not Japanese and get away.

Why did I say this? boo... just wanted to share a story =)

It certainly is a catch 22, People are not using it because people are not using it.

I use The Party Recruit almost all of the time, Raptor Parties, leves and It all goes well. JPs, NAs, EU, they all join.

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Originally Posted by Eugenics

"Also leve names need to be in autotranslate." <-- this

Then maybe the Japs would try grouping with none Japanese players. If anyone is ignorant its them.

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Lets see calling them Japs yeah not smart considering that's a racist taunt dating all the way back to WWII. Lets also not mention the fact that most of the NA playerbase community is extremely rude and ignorant and dead set in there own ways. This of course dates back to the XI days with PK, Botting, RMT, etc. but yes it is totally the Japanese playerbase fault right, no it is a community issue one that would be intangibly fixed with a proper auto translate feature.

i know the term "jap" was used as a racist term so if i use it please do not take offnse as that's not what is intended. i shorten alot of words to save time. i try to make a concerted effort to use jp instead of jap, but my habit of just shortening a word to a few letters is just a bad habbit. is someone asks me where i live i say miss not ms(mississippi). it's not intentional, but just the way i am. i think alot of use use the word just as shorthand without actually meaning anything rude by it. well let me say if and when i do it i do not mean anything rude at all.

i do agree though that auto-translate needs to be more than what it is now.

Most arguments against the party recruitment system, aside from not being able to auto-translate your message, are pretty laughable.

The first wave of players who ranked in this game used it often. It worked perfectly fine and you could make the description specific enough where you can set up what class, what rank range, and what leve/mobs you were grinding.

It is not perfect, but it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. It's kind of surprising seeing people trash it then give points to why they dislike it like "It doesn't have this option" when it does. Have you used it before coming to the conclusion that you dislike it? I didn't think the collective minds of this community were that small where they don't even need to learn the basics of a system before disliking it. Unless you just follow what others have said about it and gave bad advice. Which is equally as sad as what I said before.

Ok, Elkwood i changed the wording in my last post.

I never use it because I know nobody else uses it on Cornelia except the JP, it's a vicious circle. It works ok, but people don't use it. I think it's alright for leves, but I'd much rather have XI's system for the traditional ways of grinding because that way I'm the one who invites people. It kinda sucks that you may very well get 7 morons in your party. Of course you could kick them all, but I don't wanna spend my days sending tells to explain why I didn't want them in my party.

The current search feature has some unnecessaru clutter, but no one uses it anyway.

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Originally Posted by Renshi

I myself want to use the Party Search System, but when I use it, I pass all the hour in an idle state and no one joins my party. When I go shout for a party, almost no one would reply me, and when I give a Japanese touch (yeah, I can speak weeaboo a little) a Japwagon wants to enter my party, then half of them discover that I'm not Japanese and get away.

Why did I say this? boo... just wanted to share a story =)

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This is why I don't bother to trying forming parties myself besides not being a leader type.

But I was more interested in what the situation was like on other servers rather then the merits of the pt seek function which I think could use quite a bit of improvement but otherwise works. Sounds like the EN population on Fabul are more adaptive with the tools provided.

Really I wouldn't care as much but the "JP Only" that I see in searches & replies when asking for pts sometimes really bother me & their random leve link pt's are the only efficient means of progressing w/o having to rely on an LS. That's why I wish the EN would use the search function more.