If you need a drop on Acheron or instance or King Behemoth there's no point in even joining a party that's not at least 1/4 progress if you care about your time. Pretty sure all those withdraws that happen when the queue pops for CT are people doing this exact thing, people looking for people close to or on their drop chest to save their own time. The myth reward is also only at the end so there's that too. Just another way the loot lock-out just promotes bad behaviors.
Join in progress and CT
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12-25-2013, 05:46 AMPrototype909Join in progress and CT
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12-25-2013, 06:57 AMKarnyboy
Spoiled brats will abuse any system until they get what they want.
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12-25-2013, 06:59 AMDoo
No wonder it took like 10 whole minutes of "A party member has withdrawn" before I was able to get in CT.
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12-25-2013, 07:01 AMSove92
There should be two options for joining in-progress, one that queues you only for in-progress ones and an "either one works for me" one. The current withdraw spam is extremely frustrating.
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12-25-2013, 07:04 AMJohnist
It isn't just CT that this happens on but on all HL Roulette dungeons as well. What would work best for me is if you withdraw twice in 10 minutes (on the pop) you get hit with the 30 min penalty.
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12-25-2013, 08:44 AMMariyaShidouThere's DF for Coil? Did I miss that feature?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doo
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12-25-2013, 10:14 AMindira
alot of people already got there drop and just need the tomestones. blame the people dropping in the first place not the new guys comming in to help you finish the run and all your work wont go to waste.
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12-25-2013, 10:24 AMAdamuKun322
I enjoy fighting through CT. It's some of the most fun I've had in a DF Party.
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12-25-2013, 10:26 AMCalyanareWhat's wrong with giving people an option to only find in-progress dungeons? Yesterday someone in my FC had their healer bail on the last boss of Haukke Manor HM, I queued in-progress but didn't find an actual in-progress group until the 3rd pop for some reason (it wasn't the right one, but I helped out the group I landed in anyway). This is a win-win for healers and tanks at least--they get quick tomes, and DPS don't have to sit in queue as long, or abandon dungeons when their healer or tank leaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnist
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12-25-2013, 10:31 AMDooI thought the issue was the new guys cancelling over and over again making it hard to for anyone that wants to queue up for CT to get in.Quote:
Originally Posted by indira
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12-25-2013, 10:53 AMJohnistI'd be happy if they added an 'In Progress Only' option, but I would still like a penalty added for multiple withdrawls on pop. You can still get around any DF Penalty except with Crystal Tower (24-man) by having the required party size.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calyanare
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12-25-2013, 11:12 AMBlueMage
People already did and do this with dungeons that don't have CT's loot lockout.
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12-25-2013, 11:14 AMSynthesisI like the idea , something like this would help to solve the issue. But this is too strict.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnist
sometimes ppl have to withdraw for any other reasons.
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12-25-2013, 03:40 PMElHeggunteIf you're so busy or preoccupied that you're withdrawing ~5 times within a 30 minute period you probably shouldn't be online or queuing in the first place. I dislike having my own queue time wasted by someone with poor judgement and time management skills. A harsh lockout for repeated withdraws within a short span of time is more than appropriate if it'll keep people from doing it, regardless of their reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synthesis
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12-25-2013, 03:49 PMRi_ri
Put on silly punishments for withdrawing and enjoy your groups disbanding because there are no healers and tanks entering it.
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12-25-2013, 04:04 PMMayin
In all honesty I am an ilv84 pally and have no alts yet. Therefore I do not require any CT gear, and my philo is currently maxed out. The only reason I ran a CT was to see the content and grab the achievement. Now I still participate, but I will only do it as "join in progress" because based on the number of tanks in CT, it is more liekly I will get to skip ahead and collect my easy myth. Working as intended, that's just the way it is. Commendations? I can farm those from guildhests easily enough and those are only a couple minutes long! It's a waste of my time to join a CT from the get go and risk ppl RQ'ing after every wipe. That's how I feel about it anyway.
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12-25-2013, 04:08 PMNahara
Joining CT in progress doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, since unless I'm mistaken, every boss has a chance of dropping any of the available items... Unless you're specifically looking to enter one where someone has ditched, why would you want to start anywhere else but the beginning, so you have more chances at the item you want?
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12-25-2013, 04:39 PMMariyaShidouNo, drop is chest specific. Behemoth tend to drop body, Archeron drop hats etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nahara
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12-25-2013, 04:50 PMLibby9
Don't hate the player, hate the game. After going 0/15+ on a drop you are looking for in one week, and each run taking about an hour, then yes people are going to abuse the Duty-in-progress system. Blame the terrible loot system, not the players.
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12-25-2013, 06:30 PMwacaNo no no......Quote:
Originally Posted by MariyaShidou
I got my chest piece from Acheron last week, leg piece from Behemoth just now (and later Acheron drops healer's leg piece). -
12-25-2013, 06:36 PMTashigiAnd it's not only happening with this, but also the Duty Roulette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karnyboy
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12-25-2013, 06:43 PMispanoThey're at least semi specific. The first two chests never have anything other than Feet, Hands or Waist. And the last two are Body, Legs or Head. Now which of the two your specific set piece comes from may be fixed. I don't think i've seen the same one from both chests.Quote:
Originally Posted by waca