Please make PVP match players based on RANK and fix the matchups

It's ridiculous when you get put on a team with almost 0 ilvl 70 pvp gears while the other group is a premade of 3 with full ilvl 70 pvp gears. It's happening too often too.

It's also ridiculous that even though there's a system in place for it, players are getting matched up against 3 man premades. Not everyone wants to form premades just to have a fighting chance. There should be 3 brackets of pvp: 4 vs 4 (all solo/duo queues), 3 vs 3, 4 vs 4 (premades only)

If the 3 man premades or 4 man premades has longer queues, tough shit. They want the advantage of being in a premade so they should be forced to wait to fight other people who want the same advantage.

4-player groups do have a separate queue.

+1

They should have thought about premades long ago.

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Originally Posted by Mitski

4-player groups do have a separate queue.

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That's my point exactly. The system is in place, but it's done wrong. The 4 man premades are being put up against the pugs when there are no other 4 man premades available. So if you do a 4 man premade now, you have a huge advantage.

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Originally Posted by Tenku

That's my point exactly. The system is in place, but it's done wrong. The 4 man premades are being put up against the pugs when there are no other 4 man premades available. So if you do a 4 man premade now, you have a huge advantage.

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I was under the impression the 4-man premade queue was exclusively matched against other 4-man premades.

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Originally Posted by Mitski

I was under the impression the 4-man premade queue was exclusively matched against other 4-man premades.

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Me too until one of my LS members who was solo queued got put up against our 4 man premade. I'm guessing that happens when there aren't other 4 man premades available.

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Originally Posted by Tenku

Me too until one of my LS members who was solo queued got put up against our 4 man premade. I'm guessing that happens when there aren't other 4 man premades available.

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are you sure about that? how could he tell? A group of 3 can queue for the pug matches, so that could have easily been the situation.

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Originally Posted by Allyra

are you sure about that? how could he tell? A group of 3 can queue for the pug matches, so that could have easily been the situation.

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It was my 4 man FC group. He is in one of our LS and after the match, he asked me if I was in a premade and I said yes. He told me he solo queued.

Coincidence. I've been doing mostly 4-mans since PvP released and every match has had people from the same server; never different. We've waited in queues for 5 minutes with no pop, then went down to 3 man and got insta pops.

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Originally Posted by x037x

/shout LFG Group for 4 man premade..

Friend list the the ones with skill and that you have chemistry with, weed out and avoid the weak and lost.

Form a team.

Seriously whats so hard about that?

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Because some people like myself likes to solo queue while doing other stuff and sometimes having to sit out of matches to take care of real life stuff. Not all of us have time to sit at the computer for half the day to play a video game.

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Originally Posted by x037x

So you want it tweaked to your personal needs so you can win? hmm maybe if you QQ long enough you'll get what you want
You sound upset though. BTW gearing up is faster if you win 60 marks vs 10 marks.

I'm sorry. I hope you feel better soon.

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i agree with u some issues u have aswered to but premade 3 man pvp in a voip vs 4 randoms isnt balanced noone is saying take the 4 premade pvp away people are saying eiter solo q or 4 man premade and ur kindof a smug dickhead who needs to tone ur fanboi down

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Originally Posted by seraph1m

i agree with u some issues u have aswered to but premade 3 man pvp in a voip vs 4 randoms isnt balanced noone is saying take the 4 premade pvp away people are saying eiter solo q or 4 man premade and ur kindof a smug dickhead who needs to tone ur fanboi down

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^ lol that was funny. You got told, and yes I do agree with the OP.

It already matches based on rank. The higher rank you are the harder it is to find a match...

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It already matches based on rank. The higher rank you are the harder it is to find a match...

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I wouldn't say its based on rank, because I que solo and I'm rank 7 and I get paired with Rank 18+ all the time.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Reported. You're a sad excuse of a human being using serious disabilities to make fun of people. Defaming people is against the rules as well.

How do you know what rank you're getting paired against?

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ur hilarious

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

How do you know what rank you're getting paired against? You can't examine the opponents (and it doesn't tell you this when you examine people anyway).

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I don't know hmmm let me think about that hmmm.... I ask them. I ask my team what rank they are in and when they are in FULL green pvp gear. I know they are much higher rank then me. Sorry but your arguement that is puts you in matches based on rank is just not true. I'm sorry if you don't agree, but fact is fact.

Also I SAID I get paired with Rank 18+ all the time. So the people who are paired with me are higher rank. Which would tell me that it doesn't group people by rank no matter what your back arguement is.

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Originally Posted by LovelessG

I don't know hmmm let me think about that hmmm.... I ask them. I ask my team what rank they are in and when they are in FULL green pvp gear. I know they are much higher rank then me. Sorry but your arguement that is puts you in matches based on rank is just not true. I'm sorry if you don't agree, but fact is fact.

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dont feed the troll bro

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I don't know hmmm let me think about that hmmm.... I ask them. I ask my team what rank they are in and when they are in FULL green pvp gear. I know they are much higher rank then me. Sorry but your arguement that is puts you in matches based on rank is just not true. I'm sorry if you don't agree, but fact is fact.

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How can you ask your OPPONENTS what rank they are unless they turn out to be on your server?

I have never been matched up with people like you say. The only time I've been with people that are vastly different rank from me is when I specifically party with them.

Also, I didn't make the argument SE themselves said this is what happens (and my personal experience doesn't significantly deviate from what they said). Thus, if it doesn't, that implies a bug or some severe failing in their matching algorithms.

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dont feed the troll bro

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Nobody is trolling. "Trolling" as it is often called is the act of puropsely taking and talking about a controversial viewpoint for the sole purpose of inciting reactions out of others. I'm not here to do that, I merely responded to a topic reporting my personal experience in relation to that topic. That is not trolling.

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Originally Posted by Tenku

When you see the other group with full ilevel70 pvp gears, which is very easy to distinguish, vs your group with only ilvl55 pvp gears.... it's pretty obvious what rank they are....... just sayin.

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When I see this I'll be sure to let you know. Hasn't happened yet though.

When you see the other group with full ilevel70 pvp gears, which is very easy to distinguish, vs your group with only ilvl55 pvp gears.... it's pretty obvious what rank they are....... just sayin.

I'd agree that while queueing as 2 or 3 people is doable in PvE, it really should be removed for PvP and the only choices should be solo or 4/4. As it stands if you queue up solo you will lose the vast majority of the time.

Pretty much everyone is just 3-manning it so they have a chance for easier matches. It should be full premade, or full solo-queue, the end.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

How can you ask your OPPONENTS what rank they are unless they turn out to be on your server?

I have never been matched up with people like you say. The only time I've been with people that are vastly different rank from me is when I specifically party with them.
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Bro are you illeterate or something? I specifically stated TWICE mind you. I asked the people who I was paired with. Stop skiming and actually read for a change. Like really bro.... really smdh. Again just in case you are not reading. I asked the people I was grouped with I didn't ask my opponets. I ask the people who the game choose to pair me with. Now if I'm level 7 and they are level 18. How does that make you actually believe we are matched up by rank?

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Originally Posted by Tenku

When you see the other group with full ilevel70 pvp gears, which is very easy to distinguish, vs your group with only ilvl55 pvp gears.... it's pretty obvious what rank they are....... just sayin.

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ok ok U only see Body, Head, Shoes and maybe Gloves and Legs (not always though for example when u are Caster). So HOW can u tell that its FULL i70 gear? u cant see the jewels y? ... Ur saying u can see everything just with a quick look cuz u dont have much time when u see them since u have to concentrate on fight. But nvm im also rank 19 and getting matched with ppl who are the first time in pvp so ye its kinda unbalanced

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Originally Posted by LovelessG

Bro are you illeterate or something? I specifically stated TWICE mind you. I asked the people who I was paired with. Stop skiming and actually read for a change. Like really bro.... really smdh. Again just in case you are not reading. I asked the people I was grouped with I didn't ask my opponets. I ask the people who the game choose to pair me with. Now if I'm level 7 and they are level 18. How does that make you actually believe we are matched up by rank?

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You're the one who's illiterate if you can't see that I asked you about your OPPONENTS and not your ALLIES.

I don't give a rats behind who you're matched with, I care who you're matched against. And if you don't think that distinction matters, it does, as it may very well determine the average rank of each party and match accordingly. Until you can tell me your OPPONENTS were much higher or lower than you, you have no leg to stand on and you have no place flaming or insulting me.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You're the one who's illiterate if you can't see that I asked you about your OPPONENTS and not your ALLIES.

I don't give a rats behind who you're matched with, I care who you're matched against. And if you don't think that distinction matters, it does, as it may very well determine the average rank of each party and match accordingly. Until you can tell me your OPPONENTS were much higher or lower than you, you have no leg to stand on and you have no place flaming or insulting me.

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Ok bro looks let be logical here. If I'm rank 7 and its matching me with people in my group who are rank 18+. That means even if my opponetts are my level or rank. The guys on my team are 18+. Which indicates that its not matchmaking by rank. Like dude seriously really come on. Common Sense tells you this if you just read.

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Originally Posted by LovelessG

Ok bro looks let be logical here. If I'm rank 7 and its matching me with people in my group who are rank 18+. That means even if my opponetts are my level or rank. The guys on my team are 18+. Which indicates that its not matchmaking by rank. Like dude seriously really come on. Common Sense tells you this if you just read.

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ok "bro" stop calling me bro. You're not getting it. Let me state it again:

"as it may very well determine the average rank of each party and match accordingly."

It's not just YOUR rank, its the rank of your party members put together. So say the people it puts in your party average out to rank 10 (you might be 7, another might be 15, whatever, idc as long as the average comes out to 10). It will try to make sure the average of the other team is the same or close to it. Of course that's not always going to be possible depending on the pool of people queuing, but SE said that it does this and I'm inclined to believe SE over you. I hope you get it now, because I'm not going to waste any more of today's daily posts on you.

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Originally Posted by Tenku

There should be 3 brackets of pvp: 4 vs 4 (all solo/duo queues), 3 vs 3, 4 vs 4 (premades only)

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Where's my 1 vs 1??
(Gladiator style baby!)

This stuff again? PVP will never be balanced. Never. Never ever, ever. And this isn't so bad, to be honest. It's not like they carry true stats into the instance. They don't get PVP stat buffs in lower levels. And if you have your team, and you're all wearing the best gear out there, then there's no issue.

And no, your PVP premade queue idea, as pointed out in several other threads, isn't feasible nor will it work.