the zombies

So I recently did the Gentleman quest and really with that and another quest the zombies in this game act very differently then most games.

They seem to posses some intelligence and a remain of humanity but do hunger for brains and such but still posses the logic of reasoning and knowledge of weapons and even speak. This seems very refreshing to me seeing how some of what XIV decided to trow to the side and make some nice different zombies yes manly for comedy but I enjoy that they are not just depressing beings.

A zombie gentleman is, rather than does....eat brains.

Most of this game is pretty goofy, and the interactable zombie characters are just that. Like Hab wishing to see his sabotender freinds, and the zombie from the Halloween event. There are a lot of creatures that you can actually communicate with even in the other final fantasies.

Yes, it definitely shows an alternative view, that even creatures considered 'monstrous' or 'fiends' may actually not be all that they're made out to be. Incidentally unusually for a modern FF game, there is no explanation lore-wise as far as I can tell about exactly how zombies are reanimated in FFXIV - in FFXI for instance undead were stated as being reanimated by residual crystal energy leaking from the ancient Zilartian Crystal Line, so I'm wondering if something similar revives the deceased here in FFXIV as well (ala, aether). But I think I'm clutching at straws here. :p

This is so Japanese... (i love it as long as it's a variable)

Humanizing zombies doesnt really make me less likely to <insert fatality here> and send them back to Hell/ Hades, lol!

They can all burn! ;)

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

There is no explanation lore-wise as far as I can tell about exactly how zombies are reanimated in FFXIV.

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Time for some 1.0 Lore!
In Ul'dahn lore it is believed that those whose are left unburied outside the city walls will rise again as undead corpses. This was evident mainly by the skeletal wight roaming the wastes and a few zombies from levequests, although the wights seem to be devoid of thought.

I bet Dalamud's interference with the land's Aether has made this more powerful. Also there's the fact that the ruins of Sil'dih were partially uncovered, which was a City-state that fell from Necromancy gone bad and was sealed up by Ul'dah with a Zombie horde inside.

But no explanation as to why certain ones are more intelligent, nice touch though.

Well they eat brains right? That's where the thinky parts are kept right?

You are what you eat after all! :>

Inb4 Zombies are a beast tribe whose Primal is Hades.

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Originally Posted by Skyhound

Inb4 Zombies are a beast tribe whose Primal is Hades.

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This would be awesome

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Originally Posted by Skyhound

Inb4 Zombies are a beast tribe whose Primal is Hades.

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You know, it would be very interesting to see an undead hoard with a massive case of cabin fever, don't you think?

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Originally Posted by WellGramarye

Well they eat brains right? That's where the thinky parts are kept right?

You are what you eat after all! :>

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That's a very good point, I've never thought of it that way! That's awesome! ^__^

If I remember correctly, 1.0 Lore, when Ul'Dah came to power, a neighboring city state was crushed. In their last bid for power, they cast a spell which went awry and turned everyone in the city to zombies.
- We used to be able to see remnants of this city as a "mirage" from the southern cliffs of Thanalan.

That defeated city-state is Sil'dih, and in 1.0 it was indeed stated that during a war with Ul'dah (over water supplies during a time of severe drought if I remember rightly), Sil'dih (who were losing the war), indeed resorted to necromancy (ala, reviving their deceased soldiers as undead warriors) Naturally, this backfired on them horribly, and the magc that the Sil'dihian mages were using to revive the dead soldiers also spread to the civilian population, resulting in a zombie apocalypse. Ul'dah used it to their advantage, turning the purpose of the war as an excuse to wipe out Sil'dih to 'send these abominations back to Thal', and by the end of it, Sil'dih was sealed off completely, trapping the living, dead and undead together.

In ARR the ruins of Sil'dih have actually started being unearthed - there's a section of Central Thanalan called 'the Sil'dih Excavation Site' found along the path to Western Thanalan - there's not much there really - just a jumble of broken stonework found at the bottom of a deep gorge. Interestingly though, the only mobs found there at the moment are not undead like you might expect, but spriggan graverobbers - graverobbers? Hmmm.... ;)

It should also be noted the whole affair with Sil'dih ironically resulted in necromancy getting a bad reputation in Ul'dah - the THM's Guild flatly refuses to dabble in such dark arts (if I remember rightly this was mentioned during 1.0's original Ul'dah story where it had a connection to the narrative). In any event, although the fate of Sil'dih does neatly explain the cause of the zombies found in Thanalan, it doesn't explain undead found elsewhere, such is in the Tam-Tara Deepcroft in the Black Shroud. Unless the magic employed by Sil'dih is far older and more widespread than first thought.

Read the title of this thread, thought it was about SMN/SMN pvp groups :/.