How to fix pvp:

1) Reduce sleep to an 8 second duration whilst in pvp.

2) Casting is no longer immediately interrupted by direct damage. Instead use the same system from pve.

3) Disable sprint. Kiting should be done through the use of actual statuses instead of a kite button. Being able to chain sprints is just stupid and unfair to the classes that actually need their TP. Otherwise, give a sprint option that draws off of MP to even the odds.

4) Reduce the respec cost from 4950 marks (lolwtf) to something reasonable that isn't the equivalent of an ilvl90 piece of PVP gear.

5) Increase mark gain. At the moment, you need to win aroung 682 games in order to get one set of ilvl90 pvp gear. The end result is that its going to be the people with free time who win, instead of the people with actual talent and good strategies.

Point 2 is ridiculously necessary to fix. I'm boycotting PVP until they fix this. I'm a healer, it is completely god-awful playing PVP. Any decent team bum-rushes me every match and chain stuns me so I can't get off a single heal. You're probably thinking I'm just some scrub, but I have a lot of pvp exp.

Are you freaking kidding me? It's EXTREMELY unfun dying near instantly every single match I play, with no chance of success. I thought I was just unlucky, until this happened 10 times in a row... I'm done. I don't have uber friends to play with, so I have to go into queue's alone.

Train Wreck. Another thing, please match me up with other single players, always up against a 4 allstar premade

Epic Fail. This PVP launch is a complete botched job, and the only people who are enjoying it are premades wiping the floor with randoms 100% of the time.

Disaster. Gaining 10 marks and 0 experience while suffering through a miserable, upsetting defeat. Ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Gin_San

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Sounds like you are mad cause you have no friends. Seriously, if you have 10 loses in a row, it's you. Not the system that us flawed

No, it's sleep that's flawed...

Really? The healer is my focus. If I see Repsose being cast, I get behind them. I will also Brtual Swing if it's up. I seriously have no trouble being slept now. Especially with Purify. Let them cast repose all they want. That is more time my DD has to work your DD without heals.

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The Truth about PVP!!!!

SE please fix the casting one-hit-automatic-interruption right away please

PvP is so SILLY to casters that I once saw a Summoner sending his Ifrit to harass the BLM and then the team just IGNORED him because our plan was to down the BLM for last (if there was one). The Ifrit just kept its attacks (ocasional stun included) for the BLM to do NOTHING

What about healers? So a SCH or WHM is not even alowed to heal? It was obvious that the healers would be focused. It would already be HARD enough for a WHM, SCH or BLM to do anything in PvP 'cause they'd be focused EVEN IF YOU USED THE NORMAL SYSTEM

Using normal system would already mean that the casting would be hard, because the higher the damage of the skill that hit you, the higher the chances you'll LOSE your casting (not be pushed back on casting, like other games). And then it would be very intelligent and balanced to add a PvP trait to reduce interruptions. It's just ridiculous, so much it's surreal.

I do not know why you people are having problems with casting in PvP. I have about a 65% win ratio as SMN in level and in those wins have only been beat out once for dmg. In a 2min match i am putting out 15-20k dmg

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PvP is so SILLY to casters that I once saw a Summoner sending his Ifrit to harass the BLM and then the team just IGNORED him because our plan was to down the BLM for last (if there was one). The Ifrit just kept its attacks (ocasional stun included) for the BLM to do NOTHING

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I do think they should take back the 100% interruption rate on healers, but it sounds like that BLM was just bad, honestly. Ifrit's normal attacks only go every 4 seconds. He had time either for sleep or Blizzard to heavy it, then sleep. Or use Surecast or Swiftcast? I know in the heat of battle you forget about those things, but he could have also used his BLM 'teleport' ability. =/ BLM shouldn't have an issue at all.

Healers on the other hand, SE needs to give them a break. Except SCH. They're doing fine.

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I do think they should take back the 100% interruption rate on healers, but it sounds like that BLM was just bad, honestly. Ifrit's normal attacks only go every 4 seconds. He had time either for sleep or Blizzard to heavy it, then sleep. Or use Surecast or Swiftcast? I know in the heat of battle you forget about those things, but he could have also used his BLM 'teleport' ability. =/ BLM shouldn't have an issue at all.

Healers on the other hand, SE needs to give them a break. Except SCH. They're doing fine.

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I got to hand it to you. You actually made a post claiming a class needed to be buffed without actually EVER saying the class lol. Good points though WHM are meat to my DRG

Remove it.

Im 53 wins out of 71 games....I think bard needs a buff :p

BTW, I play bard if you didn't see my profile lol

Not that much. Seems like most of the people complaining are not even good enough to get purify. Been pvping since yesterday, and it's been a blast. We have been running MRD-BRD and My friend WHM who btw had just 2900hp when we started. He alone is a testament that all of you complaining are just bad. With him on the team we have lost just 14 of 100 games, won against some really though teams including double BLM and the standard SMN-BLM SCH-PLD, we even got a SMN on our own and rock a 80% win ratio on premades.
That said, It won't hurt to cut sleep to 20 or even 15 secs 1st time, and give BRD a 4 sec silence.

@ GYX: RLY? Swiftcast sleep ----> purify ----> surecast sleep -----> owned.

I'm not at all afraid to admit that I am new to the PvP world. I have a pretty large dislike of the entire field and really only thought to give it a chance here because it had potential to be different.

I've tried PvPing on both my SCH and SMN, I've got one win with each, died on the win with my SCH, and got the final kill with my SMN's kill. As it is, I refuse to participate until I get my THM to BLM so I can abuse the same Sleep method that keeps killing both me and practically every team I join, get a Melee Class as they seem to be the only thing worth PvPing on, or they get rid of the cast cockblocking. I DID happen to enjoy my fights, even the ones where I was merc'd at the beginning of the fight. For most of the casters, PvP isn't very balanced, favoring the two that can abuse the sleep spells.

It did take me a while to figure out about Surecast, but it doesn't really help me out much with a 2 to 20 in favor of losing. A lot of the times its because I'm put to sleep (About 13 of them I was put to sleep immediately and killed on the spot), the rest is because other than Ifrit all I have at my disposal is Bio on my Summoner. Lack of Instant Casts on the class really hurts

I am only capable of the entry level fights, I plan on trying the upper levels when I get to those points, but until its a little more balanced for the other magic classes, I'm inclined to agree that PvP needs fixing in certain aspects. Sleep, and other Status ailments need some type of nerf, while the Skills need to implement a Cast Cancel feature rather than always being knocked out of casting when hit. Until then, I'd rather wait until I'm ready to level up a Melee class before I get anything close to serious about PvP.

Wow...Post limitations SUCK!

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@ GYX: RLY? Swiftcast sleep ----> purify ----> surecast sleep -----> owned.

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Like I said, I don't run a sleep comp, and I have no problem with them, already rank 16 with over 200 wins, many of them against guess what? Exactly. L2 LOS, learn to predict cc patterns. Really, if that rotation you just pointed gets me, i blame it on myself for such a noobie move.

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@ GYX: RLY? Swiftcast sleep ----> purify ----> surecast sleep -----> owned.

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If you got slept once already, then what are you doing in front of the BLM again? He can't sleep you unless you're in front of him. That's how casting works in this game. I know shiz happens, but you can only make so many excuses. You should be running around him bootshining/dragon kicking his butt.

So which one is it?

I've heard that Casters are OP and Casters suck because of interrupt..

Sounds like the casters that crying about interrupt are the people that can't play their job correctly in PvP.

I'm an iLvl88 PLD and do pretty well in PvP, but I heard that SMN is crazy good, so I dusted off the ole Veil of Wiyu and tried my hand. Got stun locked by MNK/WAR combo and died in 2 seconds. I suck at caster in PvP, but tear it up PvE. You need to find a class that you can excel at in PvP. Less QQ and more PewPew.

Sleep is fine, you just need more PvP Gear and Sleep Resist Materia. With the iLvl55 PvP gear, sleep resists sometimes to under 7 seconds and also completely resisted. In combination with Purify and further Wolf Pts, Sleep will be more balanced.

PvP is fine.

I don't believe that those are a lot of options for all of the PvP sections though. PvP gear from what I've seen in the shops require level 50 to even equip, and that means its useless to those who have to play in 30 and 40 PvP sections.

Casters are fine...if you have Sleep. Summoners are good with Ifrit and considering you can outrun opposing WHM/BLM with sleep from what I've seen. I've taken out a Tank as a SMN. Ifrit locked on him, Bio, Surecast + Bio 2, Surecast + Miasma, Bio Spam to keep it refreshed.

I can't do squat as a SCH though. Stun raped sleep locked target by entire team punching bag. I find it fun despite, just wish the cast wasn't interrupted that easily so that we had other options to fight with other than needing to rely on the PvP Skills and Instant Cast Spells.

...With Eye for an Eye was self targeting...At least I can TRY to help healer as SMN XD

I also would not have learned a few tricks that I now use if it weren't for the PvP, I don't hate it and still attempt it every so often between story missions and other things to unwind a bit. Still only have 2 wins and more losses than I care to share.

My three-step-guide to fixing PVP:

Step 1: Remove PVP
Step 2: Party
Step 3: Party some more
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But seriously, I have always hated PVP, because everytime it's added into a game, normally useful skills are nerfed into oblivion because the devs never thought to incorporate different functionalities into skills based on whether the target is an NPC or another player. Not to mention all the drama over how X class needs to be nerfed, Y class needs to be buffed, and Z class needs to stay the same because it loses to Y class.

I'd like to see a developer reply to the current state of PvP. There's only one strategy and team composition that works every time. No diversity no excitement.

@Lord Savior

Sleep is only useful on parties that stay closely grouped and aren't working together. Sad fact is, a party of melee will currently destroy a party of casters because we just can't do anything. The few instacasts that BLM's and Summoner's have are weak, and sleep is a really quick dispel and diminishes as you use it. A good Bard can pretty much wreck anything without being touched, including interrupting the entire team single handedly.

We don't play these MMO's to pick the best class, we play them to pick our favorites. If BLM is my favorite, I want to play it and it's SE's job to make sure it's balanced with everything else. Sorry to tell you, we don't "suck" at pvp. We're just the underdogs. I've been playing MMO's for ten years and I know a thing or two about both pvp and pve.

This is where I love being a scholar,
I tell my team to stay in line of sight, due to the fact they cant bum rush everyone at the same time and its either going to be me or the blm.
I just spam cast aldo with fey ill on, not much they can do against avg 1k shield with nearly every 2 being crits for 1.7k ^^.
Miasma those who rush me or get close to healer and miasma them.
And WHMs who play well are just as good, my friend is an amazing WHM, she has more trouble due to lack of shielding but she still manages well.
I am sorry but people who are complaining about pvp being botched are usually under geared or sad they cant spam cure and get away with it.