Just out of curiosity cause I went in with some guildies today, we're all decently geared. Knew the run and everything. But those Big tonberry's seems to be on steroids + turned more psychopathic then usual.
They were argro'ing on easier, harder to shake off you, they were going up and down the stairs when usually they would reset.
It was a nightmare...
Anyone else have this problem or just us?
Did SE Buff WP?
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12-18-2013, 03:04 PMOrihara_IzayaDid SE Buff WP?
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12-18-2013, 03:09 PMindira
WP is the same its the class nerfs that help stopped speedruns. AK is waaaayyyyy easier though
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12-18-2013, 03:10 PMViktorMestrovic
Just you.. I had a non SR run last night without a bard and we ended it in 13 minutes without any of the standard giant pulls... I wasn't even aware until I checked the time remaining... In terms of taking hits, I was definitely being hit for less (Warrior) and I could still LoS the crap out of the slime boss' fire attack. The tonberry was just as easily ignored as I ran through him and LoS'ed him around the corner. You may have experienced a train effect... player A aggroed berry and runs.. then b and c follow.. tonberry aggro swaps to b and then to c, followed by d... resetting the chase timer and any successful LoS you had initial performed... It happens.. it's frustrating.. it might even make you want to take out your frustrations IRL... but the occurrence was very much possible pre-patch.
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12-18-2013, 03:13 PMOrihara_IzayaAite, Thanks I thought they tweaked the run. That makes sense :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ViktorMestrovic
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12-18-2013, 06:56 PMRhindasYeah I had one follow a group from the room with the three skeletons and a switch to the Baravois room cutoff. -.- That sucker was out for blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by ViktorMestrovic
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12-18-2013, 07:06 PMAegis
They definitely Nerfed AK. Groups missing, mobs dying faster.
Additionally, I don't know if it was the buff to defiance or not, but after a couple of flashes/overpowers you could not pull hate of my Warrior with a crowbar. i90 BLM didn't get above 50% enmity even when focusing down mobs I wasn't particularly maintaining hate on.
On the otherside i55 (Sipahi) was dropping from AK.
What drops from WP now? -
12-18-2013, 07:10 PMsnowybellAK Nerf was in the patch notes. Some chests there drop potions now. New players will never know the old AK. Sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegis
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12-18-2013, 07:22 PMThalissMaybe a Hard Mode AK will come...Players crushed between 2 Demon walls :) just an ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by snowybell
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12-18-2013, 07:26 PMBlueMageThe enmity on Overpower was buffed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegis
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12-18-2013, 07:26 PMCrimson-Falcon
its same as it was
AK is the one that became soo much easy
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12-18-2013, 07:31 PMAegisHave all my likesQuote:
Originally Posted by Thaliss
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12-18-2013, 07:45 PMsnowybellTotally legit. Since now demon wall can be downed even before second repel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaliss
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12-18-2013, 08:08 PMflamds1did they change the bosses? from what I had heard it was just the trash mobs that got changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon
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12-18-2013, 08:13 PMCrimson-Falconeverything in AK got changed except map lolQuote:
Originally Posted by flamds1
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12-18-2013, 08:23 PMNahara
Yeah, I didn't notice anything different about WP. Same old same old.
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12-18-2013, 11:54 PMZakalweThe PLD and WAR tanking stances also got enmity buffsQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueMage
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12-18-2013, 11:55 PMArriverderciGood.Quote:
Originally Posted by snowybell
AK was a god damn stress inducer.
Hated that damn place. I only finished it once lol.
This what killed it for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by McStagger
It's the part where we're all scrunched up in that little box and it's sooo hard to heal lol.
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12-18-2013, 11:57 PMMcStagger
AK wasn't exactly hard before. It was just tedious. The only "hard" element in the instance is still there, unchanged, which is the Demon Wall.
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12-19-2013, 12:01 AMmisterrpgThat was possible before 2.1 although it was much more difficult to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by snowybell
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12-19-2013, 12:01 AMflamds1
Now that it drops wp gear instead of lvl 60, Is there really any reason to run it other than relics?
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12-19-2013, 12:04 AMEvokerKeiiTwice as many repels, half as much walkway!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaliss
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12-19-2013, 12:04 AMflamds1I was thinking next hard mode will be AV As it is, it probably wouldn't take that much tweaking. From what Ive seen online they could revert it to 1.0 and that could be it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaliss
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12-19-2013, 12:06 AMmisterrpgWhy would you want a relic to begin with?Quote:
Originally Posted by flamds1
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12-19-2013, 12:15 AMZakalwe
AK also now only gives 39 myth tomes, like WP.
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12-19-2013, 12:19 AMSlickpig
Only thing we noticed is that the chest that always holds the pudding minion, now has potions in it.
Also, we had a glitch last night where the last round of tonberries in the king battle before the stalkers popped, wouldn't die. They got down to 0 HP, but would not die, kept chasing the blm. we still won because we are awesome :) but it could have been bad for a group. I tried attacking them, whm tried attacking them, but just did 0 damage, and they kept coming, even LB didn't kill them. -
12-19-2013, 02:23 AMPArcherMedica is your friend...really, the only healing you need to do on the Wall (pre-patch anyway) was an occasional Medica or Medica II...maybe throwing a Cure on someone who gets unlucky and keeps getting hit by the random attack, or Esuna on a lazy party member...Quote:
Originally Posted by Arriverderci