Shiva and her beast tribes speculation

Awhile ago I read that Square were still working on Shiva's beast tribe, and I started looking up information on Shiva's roots and if any animals are associated with Shiva. To rip from wikipedia:
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Tiger skin: (The epithet "Krittivasana").He is often shown seated upon a tiger skin,[111] an honour reserved for the most accomplished of Hindu ascetics, the Brahmarishis.[126] Tiger represents lust. His sitting on the tiger’s skin indicates that He has conquered lust.

Serpents: (The epithet "Nagendra Haara"). Shiva is often shown garlanded with a snake.[127] His wearing of serpents on the neck denotes wisdom and eternity.

Deer: His holding deer on one hand indicates that He has removed the Chanchalata of the mind (i.e., attained maturity and firmness in thought process). Deer jump from one place to another swiftly, similar to the mind moving from one thought to another.
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We also have a fourth since Shiva is rooted in Hinduism, which are cows.

What I'd like to ask is what do you speculate what kind of beast tribe or tribes would be followers of Shiva, and start a discussion on those possibilities.

Hmm... Maybe Lamiae? They're kinda cold and snakey

My guess is that they're a draconic race that's a part of the Dravanian Horde. The tempered members of that race worship Shiva, while the others have settled in the ruins of Sharlayan and become peaceful. And they'll become playable when the Ishgard expansion comes out.

I doubt this will happen, but I want it to!

The Dravanian Hordes and their location would make sense for Shiva. They seem to thrive in the cold and Coerthas has been plagued by an "unnatural snow" since the Calamity.

Just food for thought...

Might I throw into the fray that the Mamool Ja don't seem to have a stronghold yet, nor do they have a primal (that is currently known)

Also, I was under the impression that the Dragons would worship a...dragon. I don't think Shiva commands the dragons.

Bahamut is the Dravanian Primal.

I thought Bahamut was an Elder Primal like Odin attach to no single beast tribe. Otherwise, that's a rather disturbing thought that the bringer of Calamity could be summoned on the whims of a lesser developed society.

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Originally Posted by Rex

Might I throw into the fray that the Mamool Ja don't seem to have a stronghold yet, nor do they have a primal (that is currently known)

Also, I was under the impression that the Dragons would worship a...dragon. I don't think Shiva commands the dragons.

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Sylphs don't worship a sylph. Hyur and Elezen don't worship Odin. Titan looks nothing like a Kobald etc

Your observastions are really good and would make for cool lore. However, the FF Shiva has never had the connection with Hinduism that you would expect. I can understand dragons being in the cold weather cause they are fire based and warm but Lamia could never live in cold climates and thus would never worship the Ice Queen.

I am speculating that Shiva, being a seductress and sexy as all get out (I REALLY hope they use her FFX form), is going to be worshiped by not a race but by a band of MEN who have abbandoned the world/families/jobs to worship their lust goddess. Men from ALL tribes/races known to the world. Because any knew Primal pretty much has to be stronger than the ones already released I would give her the ability to break the tempering of men that was done by other primals.

In 1.0 one of the Reporters linked the Gigas to Shiva, iirc. I'm sure someone has a screen-cap of it.

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Originally Posted by Maku

Your observastions are really good and would make for cool lore. However, the FF Shiva has never had the connection with Hinduism that you would expect. I can understand dragons being in the cold weather cause they are fire based and warm but Lamia could never live in cold climates and thus would never worship the Ice Queen.

I am speculating that Shiva, being a seductress and sexy as all get out (I REALLY hope they use her FFX form), is going to be worshiped by not a race but by a band of MEN who have abbandoned the world/families/jobs to worship their lust goddess. Men from ALL tribes/races known to the world. Because any knew Primal pretty much has to be stronger than the ones already released I would give her the ability to break the tempering of men that was done by other primals.

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And why a band of men, when you could have a realm. We know Shiva is getting a beast tribe, but we don't know if she commands more.The idea of that sounds exciting.

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Originally Posted by CayneBlackstone

The Dravanian Hordes and their location would make sense for Shiva. They seem to thrive in the cold and Coerthas has been plagued by an "unnatural snow" since the Calamity.

Just food for thought...

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That would make sense to use them like that within the story.

It's the Gigas?

Really nice thread OP!

In FFXI, weren't the Gigas from one of the northern continents? It seems like they would be able to thrive in the cold. I would like the irony of them worshiping Shiva. You would have these huge, bulky beastmen bowing down to the most feminine (and probably smallest in size?) of the primals.

I know we have at least another 6 months before we get there, but I am excited for Shiva!! Her artwork looks really great. I'm just afraid of what the eggi will look like. :(

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Originally Posted by Maku

Your observastions are really good and would make for cool lore. However, the FF Shiva has never had the connection with Hinduism that you would expect. I can understand dragons being in the cold weather cause they are fire based and warm but Lamia could never live in cold climates and thus would never worship the Ice Queen.

I am speculating that Shiva, being a seductress and sexy as all get out (I REALLY hope they use her FFX form), is going to be worshiped by not a race but by a band of MEN who have abbandoned the world/families/jobs to worship their lust goddess. Men from ALL tribes/races known to the world. Because any knew Primal pretty much has to be stronger than the ones already released I would give her the ability to break the tempering of men that was done by other primals.

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they've already shown artwork on shiva long ago. Here it is:
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...va_Concept.jpg

and they even showed a 3D model:
http://zantetsuken.net/wp-content/up...ges-banner.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joy...va-epl-122.jpg

I heard somewhere that the Gigas are likely to be the beast tribe for Shiva.

According to early lore on Shiva from the 1.0 forums, Shiva was supposed to appear in Coearthas along with a tribe of Giant beastmen driven from the mountains on the northern edge of Eorzea (Abalethea's Spine).

These Giant Beastmen are most likely the Gigas who have made their home in Northern Coerthas.
Whereabouts in Coerthas? Well shortly after the calamity a large glacier suddenly appeared in the Northwest part of Central Coerthas, cutting Ishgard off from West Coerthas Highlands. The fact that it appeared so quickly has me wondering if a Primal is involved.

As for the Gigas that reside in Mor Dhona, this tribe worships the Crystal Tower which looms over the crystalline fields, which makes me wonder whether the Gigas of Coerthas and Mor Dhona are seperate tribes or have split into two factions.

So I'm thinking Shiva:[*] Western Coerthas[*]Gigas

Erana you might want to read the text for the guildhest Solemn Trinity.
All the three giant races are... Well, races, and they had their own social structure too. In particular, both Giants and Hecatoncheires were slaves and Gigas were the ruling class

Devs already said it's not the Gigas but rather a brand new race that will be introduced with Shiva. Alas, wish I had a ref to link or quote <.<