Extreme Mode Primals Information

Post what you find out and I'll update accordingly.

Mog! (Lumei Asuren
Phase 1
DPS focus based off job [BLM -> WHM -> BRD -> ACH-> THF-> WAR -> PLD], Tanks will tank the last two. Eventually when they are all dead, they will summon the King.

Phase 2
Eventually he does, Momento Moogle or some such. Its a huge aoe that does dmg based on how many moogles are alive at that point that is repeated throughout the fight. Follow the pattern above. MT should tank the WAR and PLD while everyone burns down the others, and OT can kite/tank the Good King Mog. Its a huge DPS check the whole way. The only three moogles that stick via emnity are the WAR, PLD and Good King Mog. The rest wander around or stand in one place.

Ultima HM (Courtesy: Rembrant Divunidel)
Phase One, and subsequently throughout the fight, Ultima will put Viscous Aetheroplasm on hit primary target. It is a stacking debuff that causes each use of Viscous Aetheroplasm to deal more damage (A la Burrs in Aurum Vale). Due to this, you will be forced to do a tank swap at every three stacks, maximum of four stacks. 5 stacks will cause the next Viscous Aetheroplasm to hit for so much damage, it will be a one shot.
Ultima has a general AoE called Ceruleum Vents. It deals 400 to 600 damage, and goes off periodically with no warning.
His last ability is Homing Lasers, which will target one member of the raid and deal damage to them. As well, anyone within 5 yalms of that targeted person will take damage. This damage is not split between players.
Garuda will appear and cast a cone AoE on a almost half of the arena. This ability will deal approximately 1.7k to 2k to anyone in range.
At the same time, Ultima will use Vulcan Burst right when Minstrel Shriek is a about to go off. This deals around 450 to 600 damage and causes a knockback (Same as the ifrit fight.)
Using these two abilities in sucession, it is possible to be knocked into Garuda's AoE. Be wary of your position.
Ultima will also use Eye of the Storm, al la Garuda, and you must move to the center area of the arena. Do not collapse into the center though. After the wind dies down, Titan will fall from the sky and do Geocrush. You take damage from Geocrush based on how close you are to the epicenter, and at max range, you can take as little as 425 damage from this.
Eventually, Garuda will leave Ultima, and phase two will begin.
Phase Two
Ultima will start throwing out both Radiant Plumes and Weight of the Land (Titan Plumes). The first set that will spawn is always Radiant Plumes around the outside of the arena. As soon as those detonate, Titan plumes will spawn in a 2x2 square in the center of the arena.
The next set of plumes will be Radiant Plumes, spawning in a similar fashion to the first set of Titan plumes, and visa-versa. There are safe spots on the far outside of the titan plumes if you do not want to rush back in.
During Phase two, Ultima will start using a new ability called Tank Purge. It is a massive, raid-wide AoE that deals roughly 1.9k to non tanks.
Phase Three
Phase three is all about Ifrit. Eruptions will spawn all over the place, and you must avoid them.
Additionally, Radiant Plumes will spawn in random locations. During this time, Ifrit will also drop down and perform a single Cyclone Blaze.
(You have plenty of time to dodge ifrit. it goes radiant plume > next set appears> then ifrit charges. So don't freak out and don't get hit by him, because it hurts.)
Phase Four
The first ability used in phase 4 will be Atheric Boom. This will summon two sets, and later three sets, of tethered orbs. Here, you must have the DPS and healers stack and move as a group towards one of the orbs. Upon triggering an explosion by coming in contact with the orb, there will be approximately 7k of damage spread to everyone in range. The more people stacked, the wider the spread (Pets count too.) You must then heal up and do the same thing to the second orb that spawns, and the third should it be up.
Ultima will then summon the first set of Magitek Bits. These bits will aim lasers at party members, and deal line damage to anything in that path.
Shortly after the bits spawn, Ultima will call down two ships, that will crash into the ground and do damage based on your proximity to the crash sight, (This damage will appear as Freefire)
After the Freefire, continue to DPS the bits.
Once the bits go down, Ultima will then start to summon Aetheric Orbs that will target and follow one or two people. Anyone who comes in contact with it will automatically detonate it for approx 2k damage. Damage from this can be avoided completely by kiting it away from everyone.
Ultima will also perform a series of three Lasers, which will sear the ground, and then explode. The explosion is the only part of this that causes damage.

Garuda EM (Courtesy: Yours truly, Charon Akutenshi, Bokchoy Mcnuggets)
Part One
Group should remain within the center of the 4 rocks to minimize damage to said rocks adn the tank should tank garuda facing away from the group. DPS away. When she uses her blue cylinder move, prepare to dodge an mistral blast (forgot proper term) coming from the north by hiding behind rocks. Right after she will summon plumes. DPS plumes to death, with a special focus on the Satin Plume. Should this plume not die fast enough, the party will be put to sleep for 10 seconds, most often wipe worthy. Now, depending on DPS, she can either teleport and send a blast from the east, following with plumes once again or she can switch immediately to sisters phase. The latter is ideal so a quick burst will ensure that.
Sisters phase requires the OT to grab one sister, and the MT to tank both garuda and the other sister (preferably red on OT (suparna) and green (chirada?) on MT). Should the sisters be close to one another they get a defense buff that stacks based off proximity. This will making killing them night impossible, thus the tank must tank these sisters at opposite ends of the field. We focus on green first due to the healing effect on garuda, who during this phase is invulnerable to damage while the sisters are alive. Now, Suparna and Garuda will switch when Chirada reaches a certain point, and while it is possible to kill her before she buffs up, in the cases she doesn't die, the MT and OT will need to arrange a situation in which they pass Suparna and Garuda to each other. After killing one sister, DPS down the other. Should you not kill both sister, the run will result in a wipe.
She will then use her Aerial Blast.
Phase Two

Garuda will summon plumes again, and while you should kill most we do not kill the Prickly Plume. In phase two, before Garuda uses her AoE, we kill the plume (the plume does explode causing damage) which creates a green shield zone that the party must enter to receive a major damage mitigation debuff.
Sisters will appear again, and tanks must again tank them at separate ends, while also cycling the spiny plume between each other, in order to not gain 3 stacks of Thermal Flow. Should this occur, Garuda will cast a super cyclone, resulting in a wipe. Also, there will be tornadoes separating the group so have the tanks positioned at opposite ends and DPS grouped together. There will be tornadoes separating the group, so be prepared to get into position. When the sisters are dead, Garuda will disappear and being to cyclone once again, so we pop the spiny then (it explodes) and then run into the shield it creates.
These two phases above will be rotated till death.
TLDR:
Wicked wheel always follows after a friction. Melee DPS, once again, you have a disadvantage this fight, please be wary.
When Spiny Plumes spawn in EX Garuda, it always fixates onto a random player. That player has very high aggro on the Spiny Plume and aggro can't be taken off with conventional means. It must be Provoked.
Once it's Provoked, the original person is still very high on the aggro list and can still pull it back. Provoke alone won't secure aggro, since something as little as popping a self-buff after Provoke can potentially raise his aggro higher than the tank.
Tanks should take extra caution when the original target is a healer since healing enmity can easily re-aggro the Plume. After Provoke, Tanks should hit the plume with something that generates high enmity ASAP to secure it. Flash works well to build enmity if the Plume's HP is dangerously low. When someone (usually a tank) is ready to have the Spiny Plume Provoked off of him, he should hold off from using any self-buffs for at least a second or two to allow the Provoking tank to hit the Plume at least once. Satin we kill immediately, Prickly, we tank and wait till she disappears, being careful to not to pop early. Spiny, we tank and switch between tanks to avoid 3 stacks of thermal flow, and we pop after sisters are dead and just as Garuda disappears. The later two explode when popped and then create a shield. All party members must get into said shield.


Titan EM (Courtesy of Maxwell Uchiha)

• Phase 1 - landslide, plumes, mountain buster,turmults, landslide jump
• Phase 2 - 3 way landslide,two persons in prison,mountain buster, granite squelchier,3 way landslide, turmults, plumes, mountain buster, 3 way landslide,plumes,bombs,3 way landslide, two persons in prison, granite squelchier, 3 way landslide jump
• Heart phase - plumes, two persons in prision,granite squelchier,4 way landslide, turmults, plumes,bombs,4 way landslide
• After heart phase he calls 2 adds bombs, 4 way landslide, mountain buster, plumes, two persons in prison, the two adds should be killed immediately they put an AOE on the floor that slows you I think if you pass through it.

Ifrit EM

Titan EM
Phase 1 - landslide, plumes, mountain buster,turmults, landslide jump

Phase 2 - 3 way landslide,two persons in prison,mountain buster, granite squelchier,3 way landslide, turmults, plumes, mountain buster, 3 way landslide,plumes,bombs,3 way landslide, two persons in prison, granite squelchier, 3 way landslide jump

Heart phase - plumes, two persons in prision,granite squelchier,4 way landslide, turmults, plumes,bombs,4 way landslide

After heart phase he calls 2 adds bombs, 4 way landslide, mountain buster, plumes, two persons in prison, the two adds should be killed immediately they put an AOE on the floor that slows you I think if you pass through it.

how do you deal with the (seemingly) random super cyclone aoe at garuda? it just seems to decimate the group every time, hits for ~3800 :x

When the sisters spawn, offtank should take the green (seems to always be between garuda and red) to the north while the main tank grabs the red (tanking both garuda and red) in the south. Healers heal from the middle and dps burn down green first. Then kill red. The swap seems to only happen between red and garuda. Next another set of feathers spawn this time with a green "prickly" one I believe. Avoid killing the green one until just before her big aoe as it provides a shield that will protect the party.

It is not random. Watch what happens simultaneously to getting super cycloned.

Here is what I gathered from my fight with Ultima's Bane.

Abilities used by Ultima in all phases:

I phase one, and subsequently throughout the fight, Ultima will put Viscous Aetheroplasm on hit primary target. It is a stacking debuff that causes each use of Viscous Aetheroplasm to deal more damage (A la Burrs in Aurum Vale). Due to this, you will be forced to do a tank swap at every three stacks, maximum of four stacks. 5 stacks will cause the next Viscous Aetheroplasm to hit for so much damage, it will be a one shot.

Ultima has a general AoE called Ceruleum Vents. It deals 400 to 600 damage, and goes off periodically with no warning.

His last ability is Homing Lasers, which will target one member of the raid and deal damage to them. As well, anyone within 5 yalms of that targeted person will take damage. This damage is not split between players.

Phase one abilities:

Garuda will appear and cast a cone AoE on a almost half of the arena. This ability will deal approximately 1.7k to 2k to anyone in range.
At the same time, Ultima will use Vulcan Burst right when Minstrel Shriek is a about to go off. This deals around 450 to 600 damage and causes a knockback (Same as the ifrit fight.)
Using these two abilities in sucession, it is possible to be knocked into Garuda's AoE. Be wary of your position.

Ultima will also use Eye of the Storm, al la Garuda, and you must move to the center area of the arena. Do not collapse into he center though. After the wind dies down, Titan will fall from the sky and do Geocrush. You take damage from Geocrush based on how close you are to the epicenter, and at max range, you can take as little as 425 damage from this.

Eventually, Garuda will leave Ultima, and phase two will begin.

In phase two, Ultima will start throwing out both Radiant Plumes and Weight of the Land (Titan Plumes). The first set that will spawn is always Radiant Plumes around the outside of the arena. As soon as those detonate, Titan plumes will spawn in a 2x2 square in the center of the arena.

The next set of plumes will be Radiant Plumes, spawning in a similar fashion to the first set of Titan plumes, and visa-versa. There are safe spots on the far outside of the titan plumes if you do not want to rush back in.

During Phase two, Ultima will start using a new ability called Tank Purge. It is a massive, raid-wide AoE that deals roughly 1.9k to non tanks.

Eventually, Titan will leave Ultima as well, and Phase three will begin.

Phase three is all about Ifrit. Eruptions will spawn all over the place, and you must avoid them.

Additionally, Radiant Plumes will spawn in random locations. During this time, Ifrit will also drop down and perform a single Cyclone Blaze.

Upon jettisoning Ifrit, Phase four will begin.

The first ability used in phase 4 will be Atheric Boom. This will summon two sets, and later three sets, of tethered orbs. Here, you must have the DPS and healers stack and move as a group towards one of the orbs. Upon triggering an explosion by coming in contact with the orb, there will be approximately 7k of damage spread to everyone in range. The more people stacked, the wider the spread (Pets count too.) You must then heal up and do the same thing to the second orb that spawns, and the third should it be up.

Ultima will then summon the first set of Magitek Bits. These bits will aim lasers at party members, and deal line damage to anything in that path.

Shortly after the bits spawn, Ultima will call down two ships, that will crash into the ground and do damage based on your proximity to the crash sight, (This damage will appear as Freefire.

After the Freefire, continue to DPS the bits.

Once the bits go down, Ultima will then start to summon Aetheric Orbs that will target and follow one or two people. Anyone who comes in contact with it will automatically detonate it for approx 2k damage. Damage from this can be avoided completely by kiting it away from everyone.

Ultima will also perform a series of three Lasers, which will sear the ground, and then explode. The explosion is the only part of this that causes damage.

A second set of Magitek Bits will spawn, and shortly after, Six ships will crash and damage with Freefire. Your best bet to avoid this is to run to the center? (Unsure. a few of us died, so I don't know the proper way to mitigate this.) Kill the bits.

The last thing Ultima does is cast, well...Ultima. Deals approx 30k damage to everyone. Again, we sort of died here. Not sure how to get past this.

I hope this helps you all out with the fight. Best of luck.

A pox upon the 1000 character limit. For shame!

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Originally Posted by Rembrant

A second set of Magitek Bits will spawn, and shortly after, Six ships will crash and damage with Freefire. Your best bet to avoid this is to run to the center? (Unsure. a few of us died, so I don't know the proper way to mitigate this.) Kill the bits.

The last thing Ultima does is cast, well...Ultima. Deals approx 30k damage to everyone. Again, we sort of died here. Not sure how to get past this.

I hope this helps you all out with the fight. Best of luck.

A pox upon the 1000 character limit. For shame!

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Ultima is timed so in other words the fight is a DPS race if you take too long he will cast ultima and one shot the PT. With enough DPS you can win without him doing ultima so that is how you survive. The fight is pretty much a dodge fest and DPS race.

Forgot to mention you are correct first magitek bits the rockets target the inside so you run to the outside. For the second magitek bits the rockets target the outside so everyone has to run to the middle to take less damage.

Question about the 4 orb, 8 orb thing. Is suicide kamikaze is the right way to deal with it?
I think there is some way to minimize damage more than that, since it is level 70 content, it shouldn't need whole pt of hp 4200+. (that is HP from turn-5 coil level)

because even if you can share damage, 7000 x 4 = 28,000 hp, and divide by 7 person (if all go together), still 4,000 damage to 1 person. Although most of pt choose to let DPS suicide, and raised back with whm LB3. I think it isn't the right method SE decide for.

Yup, think of UW casting Ultima as an enrage timer in Coil. Burn him down quickly enough and he never even bothers trying to cast it. If you have him at 10% health and he still hasn't ported to the center yet, LB him down if you still have your LB.

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Yup, think of UW casting Ultima as an enrage timer in Coil. Burn him down quickly enough and he never even bothers trying to cast it. If you have him at 10% health and he still hasn't ported to the center yet, LB him down if you still have your LB.

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Crap...If only I knew this sooner. I indirectly caused a wipe during a good run because of it. I was keeping LB3 thinking he'd do the same thing where we had to nuke him down when he starts casting it. I should have just used it...

so how do you get those items for the new lv90 weapons? does each primal just drop one to everyone in party after you defeat it (once a week) or is it actually random?

You get an item as part of the quest, I haven't done Ifrit yet but I imagine that afterwards you'll turn them all in, get the notes from Rowena, and pick your weapon. Pick up quest for next week and repeat.

you dont get one after defeating garuda ex, thats all i can say after some kills of her :D

some ppl say that you get them once you killed all 3 of them after some quests

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how do you deal with the (seemingly) random super cyclone aoe at garuda? it just seems to decimate the group every time, hits for ~3800 :x

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Super Cyclone is not random. 3 Stacks of Thermal Flow will cause it to cast super cyclone and its from tanking spiny plume. Tanks should rotate the spiny plume when they get 2 stacks.

The issue I have with Ultima is being able to heal while having to dodge as much as I have to. Especially during the Ifrit rushdowns, I have trouble keeping up and tanks go too long without heals because I can't stop moving.

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Question about the 4 orb, 8 orb thing. Is suicide kamikaze is the right way to deal with it?
I think there is some way to minimize damage more than that, since it is level 70 content, it shouldn't need whole pt of hp 4200+. (that is HP from turn-5 coil level)

because even if you can share damage, 7000 x 4 = 28,000 hp, and divide by 7 person (if all go together), still 4,000 damage to 1 person. Although most of pt choose to let DPS suicide, and raised back with whm LB3. I think it isn't the right method SE decide for.

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Actually its 7000 damage / by the number of players absorbing the explosions. So if 6 players absorb it you each only take about 1k depending on the people, buffs and group comp. When you see aetheric boom being cast group up, WHM casts Medica 2 and Scholar casts galvanize and you can easily take them all as a group. Just trigger one after the other. Tanks can CD them too if they aren't on Ultima and can make it really easy.

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The issue I have with Ultima is being able to heal while having to dodge as much as I have to. Especially during the Ifrit rushdowns, I have trouble keeping up and tanks go too long without heals because I can't stop moving.

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I agree, this fight is just a pain in the ass as a healer since you're pretty much running 90% of the time. Really the only way to win is if DPS avoid everything avoidable, as there's barely any opportunities to heal the tank, DPS really can't get any attention outside of AoE heals.

Thank you all for you help and information! I'll be updating more info as my company is finally free tomorrow and so I'm not stuck with pugs and we'll be blasting through Garuda tomorrow.

Finally downed Garuda. So happy but lost loot roll...grrrr

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Finally downed Garuda. So happy but lost loot roll...grrrr

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Gratz! Have anything you want to add dear?

When Spiny Plumes spawn in EX Garuda, it always fixates onto a random player. That player has very high aggro on the Spiny Plume and aggro can't be taken off with conventional means. It must be Provoked.

Once it's Provoked, the original person is still very high on the aggro list and can still pull it back. Provoke alone won't secure aggro, since something as little as popping a self-buff after Provoke can potentially raise his aggro higher than the tank.

Tanks should take extra caution when the original target is a healer since healing enmity can easily re-aggro the Plume. After Provoke, Tanks should hit the plume with something that generates high enmity ASAP to secure it. Flash works well to build enmity if the Plume's HP is dangerously low.

When someone (usually a tank) is ready to have the Spiny Plume Provoked off of him, he should hold off from using any self-buffs for at least a second or two to allow the Provoking tank to hit the Plume at least once.

Updated to include Garuda!

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Gratz! Have anything you want to add dear?

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Your original post pretty much covered it. But I can say that having 3 ranged dps and 1 melee worked out pretty good.

Titan info?

What loot does the primals give?

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Originally Posted by Clouse_Cleyra

What loot does the primals give?

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Each drops lvl90 accessories. If you beat all three you get weapon I think.

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What loot does the primals give?

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Garuda also have a Black Unicorn Mount loot. Dunno about the others.