2 Minute wait time for The Wolves Den is too severe

So I see that the Wolves Den has a time limit before you can play. Once everyone's loaded, you have 2 whole minutes to prepare for the match. That's going to get tiring really quick when the matches themselves should only be 3 or 4 minutes, that means half the time you're in there is just waiting to play.

What's more, that in order to get the achievement "The Alpha Wolf", assuming you don't lose a single match, to get the 5000 wins you must spend a total of 10,000 minutes waiting to play. That's about 166 hours, or 6.9 days respectively, just waiting to get in the game.

This time limit should be lowered.

edit: I would be absolutely fine with a ready check with a hard limit of 2 minutes. If there is a ready check that results in the game starting sooner i'm fine with that. If both teams are ready to go we should not be forced to wait 2 minutes for no reason.

SE is probably thinking that parties will use the 2 minute window to discuss strategies, when in reality it'll just be time for people to go to the bathroom, grab a drink, or alt tab while waiting.

>.> should I even comment?

I assume that has to do with ps3 players having a longer time to load, although 2 minutes does seem a little overkill.

Well you decided to play on the toilet, that time is meant for you to go take a leak.

Edit - How could I be so silly, it's 'cos of the PS3 ofc, takes them that long to load anything. :p

hmmm I think every human waste much more than that 2 min per match while we just doing nothing.
For PUD party 2 min is nothing because they need to type to discuss strategy and such.

What I'd do is a 2min ready check for both teams. If people aren't ready in 2 mins then you force the start of the fight.

Good thing you made this thread, something this broken needed to be discussed before it went live and caused major imbalance.

I'm in on the bathroom break theory.

I'm not going to go just in case the queue pops.

So when It pops I can finally get a drink and piss.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Vantwan

SE is probably thinking that parties will use the 2 minute window to discuss strategies, when in reality it'll just be time for people to go to the bathroom, grab a drink, or alt tab while waiting.

---

This strategy discussion might still happen. Depends on whether or not you can see the opposing team's make up in those 2 minutes. If you can, I could defiantly see those two minutes getting used for planning.

A simple solution would be to have a ready checkbox for each participant; the match can start as soon as all checkboxes are checked or two minutes passed (whichever comes first).

I genuinely thought this was a jokey-troll thread. The fact you are serious makes me a bit sad.

Wow 2 min wait. From experience 30sec is plenty of time for a group of people to work out a strat for one setup/map. I play World of Tanks a 15 on 15 pvp game from time to time and it has a 30sec prep/load phase. If your running with friends you are already well aware of what you need to do and just need a few seconds to concur. If your playing with a bunch of random people even 20 min wouldn't be enough to get them to work as a cohesive group, so why wait 2 min.

After the first few days of matches people with get the hang of what to do and not need so much prep time. There's no need for a long timer for a boss fight or dungeon run. If you don't know the dungeon explaining it for 30sec or 2min wont make a difference and if you know it already 2 min is painfully long.

Load times from console or bad laptop shouldnt affect this, just like it doesnt in -EVERY- instance content. The countdown likely wont (or should not) start until everyone has loaded in, then it ticks down. 30 seconds should be the max imo... Even 2 minutes isn't enough if your PUG lol and if ur not pug im sure your making strategies ahead that will become useless and change throughout battle.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Satarial

Good thing you made this thread, something this broken needed to be discussed before it went live and caused major imbalance.

---

This is one of the most amazingly scathing uses of sarcasm I have ever seen in my entire life. I applaud your efforts.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lordbones

30 sec to 1 minute is all that should be required for 'prep'

If your lame console can't load quickly enough, invest in an SSD.

---

Lol i play as a ps3 player i have an ssd & my loading time is faster than lots of my pc friends so lololololol.

What's pvp?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mr_Blue

Lol i play as a ps3 player i have an ssd & my loading time is faster than lots of my pc friends so lololololol.

---

...That's why I mentioned this...:P

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Crystallus

What's pvp?

---

Pretty sure it's that fun pastime of beating fellow players senseless with various pointy objects.
And there is screams.... and shouts.... and cries of joy. XD

I agree that a forced 2 minutes will be a nuisance. Matches should definitely start earlier when every participant presses some "Ready" button.

i agree that its pretty unnecessary to have it that long, i'm pretty sure they will cut down on time when they realize people don't need that long to ready up for a pvp match


i don't know any other game that i needed 2 minutes to get ready.

I guess those 2 minutes is serious business. O.o'
Could be slightly shorter, but no reason to complain imo. Lol

this is a mmo. its supposed to take years to get certain accomplishments, not days. im glad there still giving the players who plan to play 5 years+ things to work forward too.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ryufurinkazan

this is a mmo. its supposed to take years to get certain accomplishments, not days. im glad there still giving the players who plan to play 5 years+ things to work forward too.

---

Unnecessary waiting times actually make you happy? Well, in that case you could simply refrain from pushing that "Ready" button, if it's implemented. That'll make everyone in your PvP match wait those 2 minutes with you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Senliten

Pretty sure it's that fun pastime of beating fellow players senseless with various pointy objects.
And there is screams.... and shouts.... and cries of joy. XD

---

Sounds like my sex life.

Having a certain preparation time is pretty standard in MMOs that have PvP. What is the preparation time for PvP in WoW? I don't recall, but I'm sure it's at LEAST one minute... possibly two! Although, the timer starts from when the queue pops... not from when everyone gets there. So, if someone is a slow loader... the timer doesn't wait on them. If this is the case with FFXIV PvP, it may be accommodating slow loaders, and slow cast times. I'm not sure how the arena areas with be cached, or if they will always be 'ready' when you queue for pvp matches.

i can understand when it comes to pre-made battles but pug randoms will most likely be mute and will only talk if their team gets beat downed

2 minutes for:

- Stoneskin all members party (4 and 8 in a future)
- cast protect
- Summon pet
- Other buffs

2 minutes is a necessary time.

I think it will be a good time to apply buffs and discuss with your party members what is going to go down. Or, you can just run into the arena like headless chickens.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by saber_alter

i agree that its pretty unnecessary to have it that long, i'm pretty sure they will cut down on time when they realize people don't need that long to ready up for a pvp match


i don't know any other game that i needed 2 minutes to get ready.

---

I cant remember what wow arena was i think it migth have been like 30 secs to a min

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by rappa

2 minutes for:

- Stoneskin all members party (4 and 8 in a future)
- cast protect
- Summon pet
- Other buffs

2 minutes is a necessary time.

---

Finally, a person who thinks before posting *thumbs up to you*

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Satarial

Good thing you made this thread, something this broken needed to be discussed before it went live and caused major imbalance.

---

Yeah better to wait to post it again and again weeks on after release, because obviously it's not a problem right now. Soon though!