Disappointed in sustain change

Sustain worked 100% the way I want it to. It chunks a little bit of your hp to keep your fairy rolling through dot or light mob damage. Not only is it efficient, but it fits perfectly in the scholar toolkit of mp conservation, since it is essentially free heals. Now that sustain is being changed to consume mp, why shouldn't I just cast physick on my fairy to bypass the 10s HoT? I'm not sure what the point is in changing the dynamic of a very nice utility and making it obsolete

IIRC, Sustain is off the GCD (correct me if I am wrong...).

i feel like it hurts summoners much more than scholars

Yeah, i didnt see why this was thought of as a good idea at all.

I am assuming they thought it was too easy for us to keep sustain up on our pets. Really I never once thought "I better not use Sustain because of my HP total"

I've been a scholar for months and have never used it..

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Originally Posted by Lucipurr

I've been a scholar for months and have never used it..

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Never? Not once? Have you healed AV on SCH? Have you done Titan on SCH? I might believe you have used it sparingly but never having used it is really hard to believe if you have done those two things particularly.

Sustain is not off the GCD.

It is however, a lot cheaper than I expected. It was 10% of our HP which was fine, but isn't 10% of our MP. I have 3005 MP and it costs 133mp

That is what SMN/SCH get for those who use sustain to fill up LB gauge.

Ok I want to undesratnd this since my acn is only 24. I thought this was a buff, since with that good mana managemen system that mp cost should be less noticeable then hp loss? (just making assumptions as someone who never played the jobs, as I said)
AS for usefulness, can I only say when soloing fates it's been terribly precious to keep my topaz alive :P

It's not a buff per say. IE. for a SCH, the fairy would just heal up the HP loss without any MP needed. So it was kind of a free trade-off. Not it actually costs something for SCH. As someone else said, I think it's harsher for SMN than for a SCH. I still don't think it's an issue though.

the only reason i dont like the change is not because it will suddenly hurt our mp, but that it seemed to go best giving your life to sustain your pet as a summoner. When I heard mp I was a little turned off simply because of this change. I would have preferred it took more life than to change to mp.

Aeno

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Originally Posted by Aedra

That is what SMN/SCH get for those who use sustain to fill up LB gauge.

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How's that? Were folks using sustain to fill up LB out of combat via sustain, then self healing? Did that generate limit? Or was it an in-combat "this phase is easy so let's intentionally hurt ourselves to build limit via healing the damage"-type thing?

I like the new sustain actually for pvp. I run with 4.8k buffed hp, losing 10% to heal pet would suck. I'd rather spend mana since i don't have any problems with that..

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Originally Posted by Maku

Never? Not once? Have you healed AV on SCH? Have you done Titan on SCH? I might believe you have used it sparingly but never having used it is really hard to believe if you have done those two things particularly.

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Never once. Never had an issue.

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Originally Posted by Lucipurr

Never once. Never had an issue.

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Lol, same here. Never had an issue with it either :3

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Originally Posted by Noctrin

I like the new sustain actually for pvp. I run with 4.8k buffed hp, losing 10% to heal pet would suck. I'd rather spend mana since i don't have any problems with that..

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FFXIV is a PvE game that they decided to tack on a PvP element. Don't ruin the main part for an addition.

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Originally Posted by Maku

Never? Not once? Have you healed AV on SCH? Have you done Titan on SCH? I might believe you have used it sparingly but never having used it is really hard to believe if you have done those two things particularly.

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Eos eats medica II and Succor just like every1 else in titan, and only takes like 300 dmg from plumes, i've never had eos die in titan. As for AV your
better off letting your pet die and resummoning her then wasting that many GCDs trying to keep her up. Also physic heals for ~100 less then sustain on my i87 SCH. (with a 5k hp fairy mind you, Rose gold ftw) Why would i take the extra mp hit (or hp hit) for that tiny amount of hp on my fairy. Only time i've ever, and i mean ever used sustain is in pvp and that's only if im being chased while someone is focusing eos.

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Originally Posted by Lucipurr

Never once. Never had an issue.

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Think I used it during a SCH quest at some point because I let Eos tank everything.

But yeah during Titan HM I rarely place my fairy and when I succor she gets healed up anyway.

I find myself still using it anyways, whether out of habit or efficiency I'm not sure. Sustain's quick cast leaves a lot of time before the next GCD is up for a lustrate or some other such skill off GCD, which I suppose redeems it from dipping slightly into my mp

I guess I just use it more than people. I have never NEEDED it but I just use it if she gets below 50% even if there are AoE heals coming in. I place her in titan and hope that she gets shoved off the side so I heal her with sustain then beacause she is usually too far away. Different strokes i guess. ^^

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Originally Posted by Maku

Never? Not once? Have you healed AV on SCH? Have you done Titan on SCH? I might believe you have used it sparingly but never having used it is really hard to believe if you have done those two things particularly.

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i also have never used it, XD titan hm its never died. lol. they take like 10% of the damage we take. it auto heals itself if it goes low. so i guess summoners are the only ones who needed this XD

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

i also have never used it, XD titan hm its never died. lol. they take like 10% of the damage we take. it auto heals itself if it goes low. so i guess summoners are the only ones who needed this XD

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It self healing itself is why I use it. Because the extremely fast cast of sustain I can help her up and she wont waste her heals on herself. Sure I could just heal someone myself while she heals herself but because it used to be HP I never worried about it. Now that it is MP even if it isn't 10% of my mp anymore it is still MP that I don't plan on using for sustain. I probably wont use it anymore.