SCH Macros. What are you going to make?

Please try and keep this clear of anything dealing with the unwarranted nerfs to WHM or any kind of SCH Vs WHM discussion. I just want to see what everyone is going to be using for macros.

I personally use a Razar Naga and have my heals and Embrace (which by the way I hope that make this one skill or make it so that both Selen's and Eos's work on the same "embrace" macro) set to different buttons so I never really felt like I needed to macro that.

On that note though I will be making two macros for sure:

Oh shit button:
/ac "Lustrate" <t>
/wait 1 (not sure about the wait for this but will probably be needed for animation timer ya?)
/ac "Physick" <t>
/pet "Embrace" <t> (There may need to be a wait between these two)


Whispering Dawn:
/ac "Rouse" <me>
/wait 1
/pet "Whispering Dawn" <me> (will this be a <me> macro?)


Anyway these are the only two I can think that I will actually need to make.
What y'all thinking of doing?

/ac "place pet"
/p "Leeroy Seline"

Basicly there aren´t any makros I will add since any I could think of being usefull would imply /wait and that would cripple the A-game.
If /obey works while the pet is in action I will change my mind and will decline I ever made the statement above and will add it after Embrace.

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Originally Posted by Maku

Oh shit button:
/ac "Lustrate" <t>
/wait 1 (not sure about the wait for this but will probably be needed for animation timer ya?)
/ac "Swiftcast" <me>
/ac "Physick" <t>
/pet "Embrace" <t> (There may need to be a wait between these two)

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^Made some adjustment.

Additionally, I would have a standalone macro for physick + embrace or adloquium + embrace. Combining embrace with those two to become a "one cast heal".

/macroicon "Physick"
/ac "Physick" <t>
/wait 1
/pet "Embrace" <t>

/macroicon "Adlo*"
/ac "adlo*" <t>
/wait 1
/pet "Embrace" <t>

I'm planning to make a spamming embrace 5 times in a row in one button or something
as sometime i don't need her to heals to same target as me

might just have her take care of the tank(mainly) while i'm preparing something nice, or cleric

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Originally Posted by Maku

I personally use a Razar Naga and have my heals and Embrace (which by the way I hope that make this one skill or make it so that both Selen's and Eos's work on the same "embrace" macro) set to different buttons so I never really felt like I needed to macro that.

Oh shit button:
/ac "Lustrate" <t>
/wait 1 (not sure about the wait for this but will probably be needed for animation timer ya?)
/ac "Physick" <t>
/pet "Embrace" <t> (There may need to be a wait between these two)


Whispering Dawn:
/ac "Rouse" <me>
/wait 1
/pet "Whispering Dawn" <me> (will this be a <me> macro?)


Anyway these are the only two I can think that I will actually need to make.
What y'all thinking of doing?

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There only needs to be a .5 second wait between physick and embrace. So if you want the most out of your fairy healing your same target at the time you do physick i would stick with the razer program for optimal healing. You can't put in a .5 second on the macros in game

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Originally Posted by toussaint89

There only needs to be a .5 second wait between physick and embrace. So if you want the most out of your fairy healing your same target at the time you do physick i would stick with the razer program for optimal healing. You can't put in a .5 second on the macros in game

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if you do need a wait duration between my healing spell and embrace, I will more than likely take advantage of the fall through nature of the macros. Have adloquium/physik and embrace in a macro with no delay, and just press the button twice

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Originally Posted by Gospellus

if you do need a wait duration between my healing spell and embrace, I will more than likely take advantage of the fall through nature of the macros. Have adloquium/physik and embrace in a macro with no delay, and just press the button twice

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That is what the razer program does for razer mouses and keyboards, so that you only have to press it once. So since he has that i would just stay with the razer macro. It is what i use for sch healing and it is amazing

you will not need a 1 sec wait between physic and embrace. it will work, also in situations your moving and ur pet is stationary you don't want the embrace to delay 1 sec. And please do not reply "but you have to press the button twice!" Do not tell me when you heal in this game you press exactly 1 time on your button for next spell to que up.

Are you guys forgetting that pet actions aren't on GCD? I have Lustrate and Embrace right next to each other, and often hit them both at once with one finger, and they both go off. There's no reason that putting them both in a macro (or Physick, or whatever) without any /wait won't cause them to go off at the same time, without needing additional button presses (but, you know, spamming buttons for good measure never hurts).

Like this:

/ac Lustrate <t>
/pac Embrace <t>

Reading between the lines, I have a feeling Steady will prevent fairies from even auto-healing. If that's the case Selene's silence would actually become reliable, so I'll probably make a <tt>/<f>/whatever macro for that.

well you can now chain

- Fairy Regeneration
/ac Rouse
/pac Fey Illumination
/wait 2
/pac Whispering Dawn

- Fairy Shield
/ac Adloquium <t>
/pac Embrace <t>

- Fairy Heal
/ac Physick <t>
/pac Embrace <t>

- Sacred Fairy Soil
/ac Sacred Soil
/pac Fey Covenant

- Silence
/pac Silent Dawn <tt>
or
/pac Silent Dawn <t>

- Fairy Haste
/pac Fey Glow
/wait 30.5
/pac Fey Illumination
...

those are the ones I can think of for now. Maybe you can chain some other fun things like a Dual heal ( not sure how you can macro a specific party member number ) for heals like
/ac Adloquium <t>
/pac Embrace <me>

Healing while your Fairy takes care of your own hp when many people get attacked as well as yourself

or Healing 2 tanks at once would be something like:

/ac Physick <player 2>
/pac Embrace <player 3>
(not sure how to macro party members so it won't work haha)

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Originally Posted by Shikiseki

- Fairy Haste
/pac Fey Glow
/wait 30.5
/pac Fey Illumination

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This won't work. The first macro is canceled if you use another macro while one is already running, so you'd always interrupt this.

And I'm not 100% sure, but I seem to recall that to target specific positions in the party list, you just use the slot number, like <3> etc.

aw really? I figured since it worked on emotes, it might work on actions too, well that's no biggie, managing the hastes isn't that much of a bother too me since I got used to it lol

I'm just gonna say that macro'ing Embrace with Physick/Adlo is probably a bad idea. Doesn't really save any room on your hotbar because you need Physick, Adlo and Embrace on individual buttons for your A-game.

I often send my fairy off to Embrace another ally while I continue healing the tank, lustrating if need be to match the healing that would be going out with the fairy on him. If your Embrace is put on CD every time you heal someone .. you don't have this luxury .. Also don't forget that Your GCD =/= Embrace CD. It's 2.5s for you vs 3s for the fairy, so it won't be up every time you press it.

The only good change is that now you can maybe do mouseover target macros for your fairy, you don't need to swap targets, and you don't need to keep the tank perpetually targeted so your fairy heals him when you press Embrace.

LOL, i love the wait commands you goons are using. You do realize the fairy does not use the same "GCD" you're using. it's on a completely different setting. You can just macro it in without the wait command just stating the obvious. In addition, you could of macro'd the skill prior to 2.1 just get a keyboard with macro commands or a mouse. gg :>

The way that I interpreted the patch notes etc was that while on steady the fairy will only ever cast embrace " as well she wont come off steady after using an ability" so, you wont need to macro steady.

The problem I see is that when you place the fairy she will auto heal in total bliss right, so if you macro her to heal a target, but "HER" cooldown has not reset then the macro will fail, or if she is chain casting heals where lots are targets fit her heal that person criteria. Said that, I think its better to keep it simple and activate embrace manually. Now macroing a DPS rotation while healing with and controlling the fairy is another story. Or combining rouse, and some of the buffs, silence, auto haste button, will be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Jarlax

The way that I interpreted the patch notes etc was that while on steady the fairy will only ever cast embrace " as well she wont come off steady after using an ability" so, you wont need to macro steady.

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The way the Japanese Notes are listed your interpretation is wrong. While on Steady SCH and SMN pets will not use ANY skills. That is amazing for SCHs cause auto-mod Fairy is not the best method even if it is the easiest for some easy dungeons. When on obey and on Guard the pets will use their auto-attack if they have one and their first skill, this would be Embrace for the fairies. If they are on Obey and Steady the obey command pretty much wont do anything different until you turn them to Guard. If you want get to Auto-Embrace then Guard Stance and Obey on your enemies. Eos will no longer blow Whisper Dawn when on Obey. ^^

I was wondering, may be I could have a place & follow command on the same hotkey.

/pet "Follow"
/pet "Place"

At the beginning of a fight, press it and the pet will instantly follows you (which it's already doing) and at the same time have the place icon opened on your mouse icon, then you do the place.

After the fight, click the hot key again for follow and right click your mouse to toggle the place icon.

Both actions are not on the pet's global cooldown so it should act instantly but wtih a choice on the player since Place requires a click command.

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Originally Posted by Maku

The way the Japanese Notes are listed your interpretation is wrong. While on Steady SCH and SMN pets will not use ANY skills. That is amazing for SCHs cause auto-mod Fairy is not the best method even if it is the easiest for some easy dungeons. When on obey and on Guard the pets will use their auto-attack if they have one and their first skill, this would be Embrace for the fairies. If they are on Obey and Steady the obey command pretty much wont do anything different until you turn them to Guard. If you want get to Auto-Embrace then Guard Stance and Obey on your enemies. Eos will no longer blow Whisper Dawn when on Obey. ^^

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Just tested this in-game. The fairy does still auto-cast Embrace while on Obey+Steady. Sorry to burst your bubble.

this is a working macro I just tested in game, put pet on Obey (it stays on obey now)

/macroicon "Physick"
/ac "Physick"
/pac "Embrace"
/ac "Physick" <me>
/pac "Embrace" <me>

will heal u if no one targeted

This, a million times this:
/micon Rouse
/ac Rouse <me>
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/wait 1
/ac Succor <me>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>

gg Tumult

Just a heads up. When creating some macros you don't need <me> If the ability doesn't need a target ...like holy, cleric stance, etc.

Any of you have the micon working to make the macro look like the thing?

Tried combining my heals with Embrace but it just seemed so rigid. Ended up having a /pac Embrace <mo> on it's own which is awesome for healing 2 tanks in something like Garuda EM.

It means extreme micro managing but it works so well!

Use the /ac Rouse followed by fey illumination and whispering dawn which works really well but haven't tried the Fey Covenant with SS which is a really good idea.

Find myself doing a hell of a lot more now but it seems to be working well.

I made a set of macros for dps'ing while my fairy holds down the fort on the tank. By using focus target on the tank, I can target as normal for dps and use <f> to direct embrace into the tank. Looks like this

/pac "Embrace" <f>
/ac "Bio II" <t>

And repeated for every dot and ruin. Keeps the tank topped, and if they aren't taking damage, I switch hotbars so I'm not using the macros and generating overheals. It allows me to stay in cleric stance almost 100% of the time outside of boss fights, and even in average bosses, it's usually sufficient

/pac Obey <t>

(this still have to depend on another player / party member)

Or from 3rd party macro (ex: razer):

1. Tab
2. Press Obey shortcut
3. F1

For me, it's really annoying if I already press Obey then the target is wrong (not enemy). Especially after summoning fairy back in the middle of fight.

Both/Utility:

Obey and follow me (can remove heel and obey from hotbar, this does both)
/macroicon "Obey" pet Eos
/pac Obey <t>
/pac Obey <tt>
/pac Obey <focus>
/wait 1
/pac Heel

Embrace (1 for each fairy, I have separate hotbar setup for each one)
/macroicon "Embrace" pet Name
/pac Embrace <mo>
/pac Embrace <t>
/pac Embrace <tt>



Eos:

Illumination
/macroicon "Rouse"
/ac "Rouse" <me>
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/wait 1
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>

Magic Shield
/macroicon "Fey Covenant"
/ac "Sacred Soil"
/pac "Fey Covenant" <me>



Selene:

Light/Glow
/macroicon "Fey Glow" pet Selene
/pac "Fey Glow" <me>
/pac "Fey Light" <me>
/wait 30
/echo ~~~ New light ready ~~~

Silence
/macroicon "Silent Dawn" pet Selene
/pac "Silent Dawn" <focus>
/pac "Silent Dawn" <t>
/pac "Silent Dawn" <tt>
/p just silenced it, 40 sec till back up.

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Anything more than that (adding embraces to your own heals, etc. etc.) is not a great idea IMHO. You don't always want the fairy to be healing the same target as you, and you don't always want to be blowing swiftcast/succor when the fairy is putting illumination up. If you need her to heal the same target as you, just hit both buttons. If you need to regen + swift succor, just hit the illumination button, then swiftcast succor yourself.
I like to keep manual control as much as possible.

Also, additional note. The delay on embraces is still there even doing manual embracing. It's a ~1 second delay after the pet GCD ends, kinda like the problem with Ifrit. Really annoying!

I haven't bothered to make macros yet. The macros you guys are talking about just seem like things I just do manually well enough with hotkeys.

I be all like this when I play.

Still, I enjoy reading these ideas.

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Originally Posted by Artair

Selene:

Light/Glow
/macroicon "Fey Glow" pet Selene
/pac "Fey Glow" <me>
/pac "Fey Light" <me>
/wait 30
/echo ~~~ New light ready ~~~

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Thanks!
I am looking for something like that and did not know how to imput
But I want her to do like she does in Sic mode: 30 sec glow, 30 sec ligh so that the team always have something on

The macros are awesome, except I can't get Embrace macro to work with Selene.

I'm playing on the PS3 if that makes any difference.

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Originally Posted by Muzy

The macros are awesome, except I can't get Embrace macro to work with Selene.

I'm playing on the PS3 if that makes any difference.

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It apparently does. Many PS3 users are having issues with not being able to macro Selene to Embrace

I stole this from someone else, but it's the best "Get your faery into Obey/Heel" macro I've used so far...

/tenemy
/pac Obey <t>
/wait 1
/pac Heel <me>

This way you automatically target a nearby enemy and don't have to worry about switching from a group member to an enemy, etc. If there's an enemy around, the macro will work and you will have your pet in the right stance.

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Originally Posted by Maku

It apparently does. Many PS3 users are having issues with not being able to macro Selene to Embrace

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Lovely, just... Lovely >.<

/macroicon "physick"
/pac "Embrace" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <me>
/ac "Physick" <t>
/ac "Physick" <me>

/macroicon "Adloquium"
/pac "Embrace" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <me>
/ac "Adloquium" <t>
/ac "Adloquium" <me>



/macroicon "Sacred Soil"
/pac "Sacred Soil"
/ac "Succor" <me>

/macroicon "Whispering Dawn" pet "Eos"
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>
/ac "Rouse" <me>
incase ur wonderin if u put do the micon like tht it will show pet ability on hotbar

After a lot of screwing around with different Whispering Dawn macros I finally settled on this...

/ac "Rouse" <me>
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>

No Wait command in there. How does it work? You press it twice (or mash it until it goes off.) Everything I've tried with a "wait" command is iffy, and while it always works while standing alone, seems to only go off about half the time in actual practice. This one is solid and always works, assuming you remember to press the button more than once.

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Originally Posted by nocks

After a lot of screwing around with different Whispering Dawn macros I finally settled on this...

/ac "Rouse" <me>
/pac "Fey Illumination" <me>
/pac "Whispering Dawn" <me>

No Wait command in there. How does it work? You press it twice (or mash it until it goes off.) Everything I've tried with a "wait" command is iffy, and while it always works while standing alone, seems to only go off about half the time in actual practice. This one is solid and always works, assuming you remember to press the button more than once.

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I struggle with having a macro like this. I have very limited action bar space because I micromanage my pet 100% of the time. There are times when I want ot use Rouse as my single target healing rotation by spamming embrace in conjunction with adlo/physic (Titan using MB).

There are times when Rouse+Fey+ Whispering Dawn is amazing AOE heal to top everyone off.

The catch 22 with the macro is that it will use Rouse and Fey Illumination with Whispering Dawn EVERY TIME.

I guess the quick soloution is to have this one macro for special occasions and have all the other abilities not macroed... i just need to find a place for these macros.

Gonna need to rework the action bar.