to you Bards.

from lots of DF partys experience.
you guys are the number one job not doing your job almost none of you use ballad on the mages when there getting low, some even argue and wont then rage quit like you jumping on them.

it will make life so much easier for all of us if you just watch the whm's mp. not everyone is a AOE dodging master so mp gets eat up fast.

we got the same thread below.
go complain there ;)

FYI, the bards that actually take the time to read these forums arent the dumb DFs that dont know anything about the game and how it works. Forum goers are actively trying to learn about the game and improve. The guys your complaining about arent really this audience and wont hear your plea.

couldnt agree more

I would prefer my bards to do as much damage as possible. Regular use of Shroud of Saints works for me.

can't wait for vote kick

:D

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Choose you words more carefully. Apparently almost all the bards suck. At least you made a suggestion to make them better. But I think it's gonna get hot in here.

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Originally Posted by Brises

I would prefer my bards to do as much damage as possible. Regular use of Shroud of Saints works for me.

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dead bards dont do damage, they maybe have to cast ballad once a fight. when noobs are the majority of the party.

Wait...bards have songs?

WP is intense man!

If you have to spent unnecessary MP on some player who can't avoid AoE (For example tank or melee dps.),
why don't you complain to them :x

We need justice !!!

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Originally Posted by indira

dead bards dont do damage, they maybe have to cast ballad once a fight. when noobs are the majority of the party.

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It's well known in all of gaming that the best damage mitigator is ending the fight quickly. Early on in the game I found myself running oom frequently and the bard I usually run with was using ballad. But since it reduces her dps, the fights would drag on longer. I eventually realized that a lot of the problem was my own MP miss-management. Basically I learned how to play my roll better so the bard can simply dps, except in more demanding situations where ballad is more useful. But talking about regular df dungeons...? Nah, I don't need it.

EDIT: I have also ran with df bards who used ballad needlessly, like I still have more than 50% mp and shroud of saints will bring it back up. The bard uses ballad anyway and the mp is maxed in seconds. So it goes both ways.

BRD needs to l2foe requiem more

Not really needed for farming tomes. As a whm i never need songs and as a brd we sing on request. Ill sing ballad when I think its needed or when requested but dont just expect me to be singing songs all the time cause im not.

OP are you having issues dodging AoE on DF dungeons and we the bards are the noobs?
/lulz

Whats a song? I'm too busy pew pewing!

Pew pew pew!

The only time I ever use the songs is if it's needed or if someone asks me to do it.

Half the time if there's another bard in my group, they never use the songs and I'm the one who usually ends up turning them on, I think I saw a small number of bards use their songs a few times, but that was only rarely.

But mostly, I just use the songs if the situation calls for it. :D

Ridiculous. I utilize all my songs, except maybe for army's peon since almost no one ever needs it. During WP runs I ALWAYS use swiftwong in between. And with a BLM I always use foe's requim. For I almost never use manasong during speedruns unless requested by the tank for flash. And if a healer needs it I think they need to manage their heals better. I see a lot of healers keep casting even though the tank is almost full, and after a short while complain that their MP is running out.
During boss battles I do check if manasong is needed on my own. Usually use it around 20/30% mana left. Then quickly put it up with battle voice. After 30 sec I drop it again...
IS this hard? No. Do some people whine and should play better themselves so we don't lose dps? YES!

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Originally Posted by indira

from lots of DF partys experience.
you guys are the number one job not doing your job almost none of you use ballad on the mages when there getting low, some even argue and wont then rage quit like you jumping on them.

it will make life so much easier for all of us if you just watch the whm's mp. not everyone is a AOE dodging master so mp gets eat up fast.

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Originally Posted by Izsha

FYI, the bards that actually take the time to read these forums arent the dumb DFs that dont know anything about the game and how it works. Forum goers are actively trying to learn about the game and improve. The guys your complaining about arent really this audience and wont hear your plea.

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Thank you OP for this gem of a thread! It meets all the criteria of 'Forum Gold'

Generalized rage thread ✓
Everyone sucks but me ✓
Not a single like ✓
Duplicate thread a hare's breath away where the same themes mentioned above are present... yet you still posted expecting a different outcome ✓

I only throw a ballad up if its a WP/AK Speed Run where WHM is spamming Holy and PLD is spamming Flash. However, if its a regular run, I wont throw it up. Black Mages do not need MP song =3=. I have yet to run into a SCH or a SMN that runs out of MP. They know how to use their Aetherflow. I do not know how MP Management works for WHM but ive been told in a regular run a WHM shouldnt run out of MP anyways (Ive only seen those who spam Cure II/Medica II run out of MP quick). I mean they manage MP fine when a BRD isn't around right? Many BRDs will turn off their songs at boss(s) for Max DPS cause thats more demanded until they are told to do songs.


If anything Foe's Requiem. And unless im AoEing spam, Army's Peon.

Blms with ballad are disgusting though, B3 > F3 > Flare is the winner!

I am surprised at the lack of people that think they "mastered" their class and don't bother to seek to continually improve their play. So many WHM either forget or refuse to use Shroud for some reason, but it helps out so much in so many situations.