Buy your Tanking Food Now

Prices will Sky Rocket in 2.1 now that Food will persist even after death. More Demand = Less Raw Mats to make them = Higher Mat Prices = Higher Food Prices.

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All true, but you forgot to subtract out the demand increase that comes with having to re-use food after dying.

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

All true, but you forgot to subtract out the demand increase that comes with having to re-use food after dying.

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With that said, I think the demand will still be higher in 2.1. Unless your loaded with gil, Most people dont buy food because you lost the effect when you die. Essentially burning Thousands in Mins when raiding. A good piece of food is essentially 1-2 accessories, now that it last thru death, its too good to pass up.

You forgot one fact

Why peoples should bother PVP? this game not even PVP based

And if there even reward for getting items in PVP, you can have 6 friends play each others to work this out too

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Originally Posted by Altimis

You forgot one fact

Why peoples should bother PVP? this game not even PVP based

And if there even reward for getting items in PVP, you can have 6 friends play each others to work this out too

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The intent of the post was to advise people to buy food in general, not just for pvp. Also, I wont be surprised if PVP becomes really big part of this game because Yoshi-P is a Fan of PVP

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Originally Posted by OmegaSinX

Yoshi-P is a Fan of PVP

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As a player? Sure he was a damn good Daoc player.
As a developer? I doubt he really takes PVP seriously, it just doesnt fit the FF world.

And regarding food, we really need more apkallu camps!

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Originally Posted by Maqaqa

As a developer? I doubt he really takes PVP seriously, it just doesnt fit the FF world.

And regarding food, we really need more apkallu camps!

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I guess we shall see. I think they can make it work, regardless if it fits story. I love the Player vs Player aspect as it's always unpredictable and adding pvp will expand the games audience and keep people playing longer....I mean how long can you farm Dungeons before you go insane.

We are competitive creatures by nature, and player vs player aspect feeds that nature. That's why Games like Call of Duty, Madden, (Heck even) Pokemon Refuse to Die.


And yea, apkallu might go extinct come patch 2.1 lol

I'm level 50 CUL

And i find that making GIL in this game is pointless.

The main source or worth in this game is TOMES and as long as you can trade TOMES for GEAR that is = to crafted gear then crafted gear holds no value in the end.

The only thing thats ever going to be inflated in the markets is ( MATERIA )

Foods can be had by any NPC selling at random locations. Using the LIBRA app. one should never ever have to buy crafted foods unless your just wanting HQ versions.

With the BONUS to crafting skills added in 2.1 FC Housing. you could prob. level CUL to max in less than 3 days. Given the repeatable LEVE quest items can be purchased instead of crafted.

But man.. what a joke that everyone has the ability to level every craft to 50 within a month. What good will GIL be then ? Everyone can craft their own needs.

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Originally Posted by aray0002

I'm level 50 CUL

And i find that making GIL in this game is pointless.

The main source or worth in this game is TOMES and as long as you can trade TOMES for GEAR that is = to crafted gear then crafted gear holds no value in the end.

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I have a few level 50 DoH and I dont craft for gil, I craft to be the Best. I'm a Min/Maxer type of guy. So if I want to be the best, Im either going to blow millions paying others for food/potions/gear or level crafting classes to be self sufficient. I chose the 2nd.

With that said. i dont think crafting is useless. Some crafted gear is better than the ilvl 90 gear. Take the Grypho skin accessories for example. For a Tank, the lvl 90 accessories only offer VIT PAR and ACC (with some not having ACC or PAR). While the Gypho Can offer VIT STR DEX DET ACC PAR & Skill Speed. I find i do a way better job tanking with those than the lvl90 items while only sacarficing alil bit of hp.

You cant buy the best foods from vendors. Some foods equate to about 2 accessory pieces or 1 ilvl 90 accessory. And in the future, I think Crafting classes will play a even bigger role .

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Originally Posted by Altimis

Why peoples should bother PVP?

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Many people don't need much more reason than "because it's there." Especially when it involves competing against other people.


I can see both view points in regards to food. Some people may buy more, because it will persist through death. Others (that are already buying food) will buy less for the same reason. I'd wager that a large portion of the playerbase still won't bother using CLN crafted food, if any at all.

Culs will loose out due to food lasting after death leading to less stacks of food being bought and most food might remain at the same price lol

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Originally Posted by ish007xx

Culs will loose out due to food lasting after death leading to less stacks of food being bought and most food might remain at the same price lol

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I don't know, most people I know tend to be careful with their food because of the fade on death thing. Like myself I guess they would be more willing to use it if it didn't fade every time we wiped.

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Originally Posted by Grembo

I don't know, most people I know tend to be careful with their food because of the fade on death thing. Like myself I guess they would be more willing to use it if it didn't fade every time we wiped.

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Turn 1-4 can be done with 2 food buffs easy, turn 5 if your still progressing and using food u will burn through quite a few, i usually buy one stack of 10 food buff last me whole week doing coil

Which foods would you recommend? What's a decent poor mans options vs the best?

Said the culinarian. He probably just put out tons of tank food and wants his stuffs to sell quickly :P

I don't use food, and food is not needed once you are at a certain iLvl. Sides during "practice" runs we don't use food, unless you're a 6.3k HP tank needing that extra 200HP boost from food there is no reason to use food.

While not "needed" its pretty dumb to say there is no reason to use food: moar stats!!! is enough of a reason.
Its like renting an additional piece of gear, why wouldnt you do it if you can afford it?
The only reason to NOT use food is being cheap, a totally legit reason btw, since burning 2k gil on every wipe isnt nice and will get you broke soon if you dont have a cook leveled.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

Said the culinarian. He probably just put out tons of tank food and wants his stuffs to sell quickly :P

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I am guilty! But then again what im supposed to do with my cook? >.<

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Originally Posted by Altimis

You forgot one fact

Why peoples should bother PVP? this game not even PVP based

And if there even reward for getting items in PVP, you can have 6 friends play each others to work this out too

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Cuz you scared?

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Originally Posted by OmegaSinX

With that said, I think the demand will still be higher in 2.1. Unless your loaded with gil, Most people dont buy food because you lost the effect when you die. Essentially burning Thousands in Mins when raiding. A good piece of food is essentially 1-2 accessories, now that it last thru death, its too good to pass up.

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man, HQ Finger sandwiches already cost a crap-ton. i could care less about how much more expensive they get.

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Originally Posted by OmegaSinX

Prices will Sky Rocket in 2.1 now that Food will persist even after death. More Demand = Less Raw Mats to make them = Higher Mat Prices = Higher Food Prices.

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Raw mats are not a finite resource, you can farm them indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by SirTaint

Which foods would you recommend? What's a decent poor mans options vs the best?

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I use buttons in a blanket can cost a bit sometimes but most of the time its affordable

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Originally Posted by aray0002

Foods can be had by any NPC selling at random locations. Using the LIBRA app. one should never ever have to buy crafted foods unless your just wanting HQ versions.

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Only food I've seen from vendors is low level stuff that isn't even worth using.

^ This is true. The highest stat bonus on vendor food for tanks is only 5 points. Highest stat on cooked food for Tanks is 27.

http://www.gameskinny.com/9ilc6/ffxi...r-tank-classes

Buttons in a Blanket is the best universal food. You can use it for Tank/DPS/Healer. Tank wise HQ La Noscea Toast is the best choice until you can find ilvl 100 gear. Not sure for for respective Physical/Magical DPS food as I don't use them at all.

Oh just in case peoples still think they must stock up Foods and sell it later for profits (or whatever)

Now truth revealed

"Players will no longer lose the effects of food items upon being incapacitated."
-Patch 2.1

End of tale

If anything, food prices will go down.

Food prices will always end up being relatively close to the cost of the materials. If the price of food starts off being really high, lots of culinarians will flood the market, buy out the materials and undercut until the price is just barely profitable compared to the price of the mats. If the price is too low, then lots of culinarians will leave the market, reducing demand for the mats until the price is at acceptable levels again.

Capitalism.

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Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura

Buttons in a Blanket is the best universal food. You can use it for Tank/DPS/Healer. Tank wise HQ La Noscea Toast is the best choice until you can find ilvl 100 gear. Not sure for for respective Physical/Magical DPS food as I don't use them at all.

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With the current gear selection, it's Deviled Eggs if you need less than 10 accuracy, and HQ Stuffed Cabbage if you need more acc (up to 27). For DPS anyway.

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Originally Posted by ProxyTooMuch

Food prices will always end up being relatively close to the cost of the materials. If the price of food starts off being really high, lots of culinarians will flood the market, buy out the materials and undercut until the price is just barely profitable compared to the price of the mats. If the price is too low, then lots of culinarians will leave the market, reducing demand for the mats until the price is at acceptable levels again.

Capitalism.

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This...

I sold all non-star HQ food for 6500gil + a piece until about a month ago when EVERYONE got on the food bandwagon. There are too many people supplying buttons in a blanket to make it worth my while trying to control that but I own the entire servers supply of eft tail... lol. I'm back to selling Eft steak for 7000gil ea.

I think NQ food is going to essentially vanish from the market since the buff will persist through death.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

I think NQ food is going to essentially vanish from the market since the buff will persist through death.

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Entirely likely. NQ food is most likely going to be the "ooops" sales from crafters who have less than optimal gear or just mess up.