Seperate skills for pvp

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12-07-2013, 04:04 AM
Laifon

Seperate skills for pvp

Don't know if anyone actually paid attention to this SS, but there are a lot more skills for pvp than I expected..

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p....png?64f1e93v1
12-07-2013, 04:12 AM
Alhanelem

And different for each company, interesting.

I figured the PvP actions would be mainly supplemental skills created for balance, but it seems like many are pretty standard combat abilities. (Hey look, farshot is back)

It's going to be hard to pick 10 from what seems like such a large selection (though, you do have to unlock them through play)
12-07-2013, 04:20 AM
cotti

FFXIV: A Realm Smogonized.

That'll be interesting.
12-07-2013, 04:20 AM
harkinate

Exciting stuff. I can't wait to see more information on this.
12-07-2013, 04:42 AM
Naunet

I'm not actually sure I like the idea of GC-specific abilities. I really don't wanna be required to rank up in all three Grand Companies just to have access to needed PvP abilities. We really shouldn't have to PvE to access PvP-specific stuff.

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Originally Posted by StarMarmot

Going to go ahead and guess you can only use the abilities of your current GC, probably won't be at a disadvantage if you only have one levelled up.

It will be a disadvantage if the abilities are notably different for each GC. If so, I can almost guarantee you there will be a "required" best GC for one to have if they are a WHM, or a PLD, or a DRG, or whatever else. I hope that's not the case, because I really don't want to be forced into a particular GC just to PvP either.
12-07-2013, 04:45 AM
StarMarmot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naunet

I'm not actually sure I like the idea of GC-specific abilities. I really don't wanna be required to rank up in all three Grand Companies just to have access to needed PvP abilities. We really shouldn't have to PvE to access PvP-specific stuff.

Going to go ahead and guess you can only use the abilities of your current GC, probably won't be at a disadvantage if you only have one levelled up.
12-07-2013, 05:23 AM
LobsterBisque

All I got out of this was manasong for wars. SING MY PRETTIES!
12-07-2013, 05:34 AM
Alhanelem

I don't consider the company issue to be a big deal because you can switch companies now.
12-07-2013, 05:58 AM
Zumi

I hope there is a way to change hotbars from PvE to PvP because having to move everything around when you want to PvP would be troublesome.
12-07-2013, 05:59 AM
Lithera

Note the bottom row of selected abilities. Only 4 abilities are highlighted because those are the 4 WAR abilities. Manasong, along with Farshot are obviously BRD abilities.
12-07-2013, 07:15 AM
Kairgon

Hm interesting, Wonder if we'll get different animation for those in PVP or what, considering two time trailer we see of Wolves Den, we see PVE animation one. Let's hope Dec 14th they'll show some pvp action =x

Thanks for screenshot!

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Originally Posted by Naunet

It will be a disadvantage if the abilities are notably different for each GC. If so, I can almost guarantee you there will be a "required" best GC for one to have if they are a WHM, or a PLD, or a DRG, or whatever else. I hope that's not the case, because I really don't want to be forced into a particular GC just to PvP either.

He got a point. Considering the armor you buy for GC already is better for some certain class.. But let's hope theyre not doing that with PVP.
12-08-2013, 12:05 AM
yuixjfa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naunet

It will be a disadvantage if the abilities are notably different for each GC. If so, I can almost guarantee you there will be a "required" best GC for one to have if they are a WHM, or a PLD, or a DRG, or whatever else. I hope that's not the case, because I really don't want to be forced into a particular GC just to PvP either.

This. If I am unable to maximize my abilities just because I didn't choose the cookie-cutter GC, I'm not going to be particularly happy.
12-08-2013, 12:15 AM
Faedden

Think the pvp skills will be like how it is with armor with the GCs? This grand company specialize in this and the other in that.
12-08-2013, 01:39 AM
Alhanelem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zumi

I hope there is a way to change hotbars from PvE to PvP because having to move everything around when you want to PvP would be troublesome.

Just put them on one of the hotbars you're not already using.

You still have your regular skills too, so you still need your usual hotbars.
12-08-2013, 01:48 AM
Nayto

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuixjfa

This. If I am unable to maximize my abilities just because I didn't choose the cookie-cutter GC, I'm not going to be particularly happy.

As long as it's not Dark Souls level of BS it'll be fine.
Besides the latency is the bigger issue than this. If there's any 'standardized' PvP event, they'll probably consider whatever 'god-tier' skill will be dissallowed (assuming we ever have such an event).
12-08-2013, 07:26 AM
Kairgon

Well, I just asked question about it in Live Letter to Producer for it. We'll see if we got answered for it on Dec 14th.
Here if you want see it.
12-08-2013, 07:49 AM
Mister-Wonderful

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lithera

Note the bottom row of selected abilities. Only 4 abilities are highlighted because those are the 4 WAR abilities. Manasong, along with Farshot are obviously BRD abilities.

He didn't check those off on the boxes, look at the actions again. You are probably right, but he didn't check them off either so can't confirm that.
12-08-2013, 07:51 AM
Nero

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuixjfa

This. If I am unable to maximize my abilities just because I didn't choose the cookie-cutter GC, I'm not going to be particularly happy.

You know that you can change your GC, right?
12-08-2013, 08:08 AM
Momita

Why Manasong? O___O we have already ballad :/
12-08-2013, 08:30 AM
sharazisspecial

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Originally Posted by Momita

Why Manasong? O___O we have already ballad :/

Also people already call out "mana song" when they need mp from ballad XD

And these better be actual PvP abilties. Not some generic skills that are restricted to pvp just for fluff reasons.
12-08-2013, 08:39 AM
Nero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laifon

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p....png?64f1e93v1

My guess would be, if i look at that picture, you will have around 30 PvP Skills. Those are seperated into 10 for each GC. Note that the Character has selected 10, but only 3 seems to be available. So either he have to be on a certain GC to actually get those he selected, OR he have to obtain them via Points from actual PvP Points. Or those "diamonds" refer to the rank in PvP, which will be 30 max. So possible that every couple Ranks, you will obtain more Skills. Or also another possible way would be buying those Skills with GC-Points, since they actually somewhat related.

After all i kind of like what i see.

EDIT: Ermm..nvm, i should have looked closer. He choose the 3 War Abilities, the ones greyed out are different classes. <_<
12-08-2013, 08:55 AM
Naunet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nero

You know that you can change your GC, right?

So? Why should we be forced to pick a particular GC to maximize our performance in PvP?
12-08-2013, 08:59 AM
Nero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naunet

So? Why should we be forced to pick a particular GC to maximize our performance in PvP?

I don't think that is the case. Since people would scream "boo bye" if they could not get similiar Stuff from each GC, the Abilities will be similiar/equal from all 3 GC's. It could be also possible that the GC is just relating to the Jobs from the same City, or that the Symbols are just represent the actual Cities. So Limsa = WAR and that is the place where you will get it. Can be that simple.

And that is why we can't have nice things. How dare SE to actually seperate something, or make something unique under certain circumstances.