Summoner Rework

Summoner's should summon a scaled down versions of the primals because right now the only pet that Summoner's use at endgame is Garuda since Ifrit and Titan are useless and have no affinity with the Summoner. Also the models were already in the game and the mini primals would allow Summoner's to use pets other than Garuda and solve the problem with of new pets being overshadowed by Garuda

No.

10char.

Only if I can ride them as a mount.

Edit: And I'd still only use Garuda cause then you also get the t&a.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3JzbWVDzac

I'm so tired of hearing this.

People need to stop making new topics, put some actual thought into their posts, and post in the actual established topics with discussion.


No where in that post does it say "why" changing the model would make us use others.

If Summoner's get a scaled down version of the primals it would have all t he moves of the original primal and make the pets more situational

I'm all for a rework of the summoner egi's and play style, but this doesn't seem like a productive change.

You want to fix the SMN pets? Okay, simple.

Change 1: Let us macro pet commands.
Change 2: Replace Ifrit's Radiant Shield with his old Crimson Roar buff from FFXI. Grants an AOE buff to himself and anyone nearby that boosts physical attack by 25% for 15 seconds on a 60 second cooldown. Also give him a stat that grants him a Haste buff every time he Criticals.
Change 3: Give Titan a Convalescence type move that gives him a large buff to heals he receives for 30 seconds and shorten the cooldown on his Earthen Ward to 30 seconds.

Titan, useless?

No.

And really Ifrit's only as pathetic as he is because Radiant Shield is trash. Replace that with some type of burn ability based on DoTs on the target (similar to fester). Hey look, interaction between the summoner. Done.

I've got issues with the class's flavor but the class's balance issues are mild at worst.

Eh, personally Athena's suggestion more, because garuda so far has always been more viable then Ifrit and the radiant shield change wouldn't make it all that more viable. However, I do agree that the egi's could be miniaturized versions of themselves. Like in extreme mode, we see titan summon mini-titans. IMO, egi's would be more visually appealing in said way.

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Originally Posted by PriyaJugulataris

However, I do agree that the egi's could be miniaturized versions of themselves. Like in extreme mode, we see titan summon mini-titans. IMO, egi's would be more visually appealing in said way.

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No he doesn't. He summons bigger versions of the Egi's. They just have Titan's color instead of the gold/orange of the Egi.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

If Summoner's get a scaled down version of the primals it would have all t he moves of the original primal and make the pets more situational

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So, Garuda would summon tornadoes that fling enemies across the map? Congratulations, you're making the tank hate life.
So, Titan would encase enemies in stone and make them immune to damage? Congratulations, you're making everyone hate life.
So, Ifrit would Vulcan Burst the enemies across the map? Congratulations, you're making the tank hate life.

Why was this a good idea again?

I have a better idea.

Leave SMN as is and just make Beastmaster the...well master of beasts.

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Originally Posted by Borfin

Titan, useless?

No.

And really Ifrit's only as pathetic as he is because Radiant Shield is trash. Replace that with some type of burn ability based on DoTs on the target (similar to fester). Hey look, interaction between the summoner. Done.

I've got issues with the class's flavor but the class's balance issues are mild at worst.

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Yes, this... right here. But, what am I saying? SE won't do it. Too stubborn to listen to the player base.

To the OP, what did I just read? The post has not suggestions that make sense what so ever...

Garuda Egi already has an ability that flings enemies across the room and the tornados would only be summoned using enkindle
Titan encasing enemies would be useful when your group pulls tons of adds
Ifrits would get plumes and volcano burst which blows up enemies not send them across the map
Of course the damage would be tweak so the summons damage wouldn't be op