WAR buff worries for PLD

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So can you try and elaborate why you think PLD 'deserves' "the" buff? Or is it because it's your favorite class. Btw, your comment fits perfectly in the other 100 threads on how WAR will probably will be the 'better' tank. Funny how people know already though.

Well done! I didn't see they were adding trolls as a new playable race. That's awesome.

Warriors won't replace Paladin. SE is trying to make it so people choose WAR/PLD (PLD/WAR) over PLD/PLD. Trying to make it so that double stacking classes is not something people do, unless DPS.

Simple due to unique debuffs brought by each class they will not replace each other entirely. Rage of Halone, upcoming Storm Path debuff. I do not know where you got the notion that over a course of a long fight not having 1 damage debuff wins over Warrior slightly advantageous if meticulously timed CD. Aside from that Speedruns will never be a Warrior's thing due to having only 1 dependable non charge up defensive CD, and without Flash blind things do not go a Warrior's way aside from TP starving.

In order to do Speedruns warriors still have to use way more gear than Paladin. As of current state Paladin is capable of Spiritbonding a full Militia armor and Accessories while running Wanderer Speedruns, even after 2.1 Warriors won't be able to achieve that feat. (I'm talking healer and other party members aldo do at least Accessories Spiritbonding while doing Speedrun).

But yeah if you meet some elitist in a one tank content your probably hear Warrior could do this and that come 2.1. But are they gamebreaking? Not really. Unless we're talking 5 Stacks Everybody's Grudge every 20 seconds...

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Originally Posted by Denver_Max

well it deserves it because the tanking classes should be equally as capable to run instances? the reason i am worried is because it is my favorite class. i will be willing to learn another class if i must, but as my pld is the most geared atm i say id rather still be able to do all the lvl 50+ instances.

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I don't know if you noticed but PLD is perfectly capable of running everything in the game right now, Full DL and relic +1 and you're set for everything the game can throw at you (probably in 2.1 too).

War was slightly behind so it needed the bump, wanting to buff PLD for literally no reason apart from it being your favourite class is just :/

As long as paladin remains in their current state.. they will be able to continue tanking raids at a high level.. I wouldn't be worried at all about being out shined by a warrior.

Honestly while warriors are getting buffed.. I still don't believe they will match what a paladin brings to the table.

Like other people have said, SE is probably just attempting to get diversity in raid groups by having ppl bringing more then just Pld/Pld for tanks

I can't believe the poor horse is still getting beaten :( Poor thing. It's dead man, leave her alone!

I'm adding nothing constructive because you think PLD deserve a buff.

"Yay im uber l33t warrior best tank in game soon . " ...

*loads into WP for speed run*

"Im going to run the fastest speed run ever im so uber l33t .. "

*starts moving forward presses sprint button*

"NOOOOO all my TP is gone ... fail!!!!"


*PLD snickers silently in the background*

PLD and WAR complement each other well (e.g. Flash Blind / Storm's Eye). In other words, most of the times there will probably be a 2 PLD grp or a 1/1 (PLD/WAR) grp.

In other words, no worries you wont get unemployed as a PLD in FFXIV :>

The Buff still leave the War as the second class tank only now the gap tiny and not massive and people will want to take a War in to coil and not just double PLD.

WAR and PLD will be roughly equals in tanking, both will be useful.

PLD has a silence, on-demand stun, and a shield for a lot of overall damage mitigation.

WAR gets better burst DPS, slightly better AoE damage, Storms Eye which also increases he PLD dmg on the target by 10%, and a short CD short duration mitigation buff every 20 seconds.

For 8 person groups, 1 WAR and 1 PLD will usually be ideal.

i still don't get the problem that other PLD see. My main class is paladin it doesn't effect me because I have it okay I am glad that Warrior have buff if they need. I love having a Warrior in same party with me

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Originally Posted by Denver_Max

well it deserves it because the tanking classes should be equally as capable to run instances? the reason i am worried is because it is my favorite class. i will be willing to learn another class if i must, but as my pld is the most geared atm i say id rather still be able to do all the lvl 50+ instances.

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I didn't see you complaining when warrior is excluded from party and Paladin is the go-to tank so equally as capable? Please. Paladins are fine. How about we let the changes come through first then decide if Paladin deserves a buff to an already OP class.

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Originally Posted by Denver_Max

well it deserves it because the tanking classes should be equally as capable to run instances? the reason i am worried is because it is my favorite class. i will be willing to learn another class if i must, but as my pld is the most geared atm i say id rather still be able to do all the lvl 50+ instances.

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You´re still not explaining why you think PLD deservers a buff. Its just the usual "OMG WHY DONT MY CLASS GET A BUFF"

Pld is a class already proven to clear any of the current content and buffing the warrior just made them able to clear the content with much ease, and not saying they can't, but of course with difficulty on how much dmg coil bosses do. i personally think that with the buffed warriors on 2.1 would just make them a better combo with the Pld in a party. imagine a 2 warrior set pt and maybe u will see my point.

1st. Paladin won't get replaced. Nor forgotten. Nor will it ever be a useless job to have.

2nd. Warrior needed a buff to be on par with us. Take comfort in knowing that we as PLDs didn't need a buff to make us better. Warriors did, not us. Let them have their weightless glory.

3rd. SE loves Paladins, always have, always will. We aren't going anywhere.

4th. The only thing Paladin needs is some fixes. IE: Awareness blocking Crit Hit Heals. This isn't a "Buff" we need, it's a fix. There's a difference, I am not QQing cause Warrior is getting their buffs. It's broke, it needs fixed. Simple.

Outside of that, Paladin is a very well rounded tank job. Anything that they are doing for Warrior is to make it a more necessary job. It'd be no fun leveling a Warrior just to be told every time that "Nah we need a Paladin." and the same could be said if the roles were reversed. SE wants everyone to be able to play a job, enjoy it, and keep throwing them money.

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Originally Posted by Illivatur

3rd. SE loves Paladins, always have, always will. We aren't going anywhere.

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You... weren't around during the 1.18 Marauder buff, were you.

Ya, going from 1.xx to 2.0 war, was like uh this is war?

Anyways Pld wont be replaced. Expect to see War+Pld set ups vs Pld+Pld only. You can expect some content to still be Pld x2 but some will be War x2, But mostly War+Pld(Depending if war performs well after 2.1).

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Originally Posted by Grailer

"Yay im uber l33t warrior best tank in game soon . " ...

*loads into WP for speed run*

"Im going to run the fastest speed run ever im so uber l33t .. "

*starts moving forward presses sprint button*

"NOOOOO all my TP is gone ... fail!!!!"


*PLD snickers silently in the background*

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LMFAO!!!! It's so true! XXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDD

inb4 8 WAR parties

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Originally Posted by Akirakogami

inb4 8 WAR parties

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1.xx Mog king 6war, 1whm, 1brd.