Dear Square Enix,
Many players like myself and the members of my free company are starting to go inactive in FF14 due to the lack of things to do solo. Most of us only logs in on Wednesday at 5:30 PM PST to do our Coil run, cap ToM after, then log off the rest of the week.
In our opinion, because you made the game so easy, fast, and catered it so much to the casual players, we have absolutely nothing to do when we've reached a certain point. The only thing challenging and fun for us, Coil of Bahamut, has a lock out timer. We tried spending our extra time to help new players beat Titan Hardmode and leveled all our other jobs to 50, including crafting and gathering classes, but it just doesn't do it for us.
We would like for things to do such as being able to farm normal mobs for rare drops that are worth farming for and will enhance our characters even at end game. You can make mobs drop rare tier IV materia or above. Add bosses in the game that are difficult to get to, but solo-able. An example I would like to use is a very old MMO, Ragnarok Online. In RO, even when you've hit the max level, there is so much more to do such as farming mobs for rare cards that can enhance your equipment and weapons. Solo bosses that drops some of the best gears and cards. Of course to solo these bosses, it's very challenging, but possible.
Basically, please make it so there are other ways of improving our characters through means of solo play and not just a weekly instance such as Coil.
Thank You!
Sincerely,
A true fan of FF14 and Final Fantasy.
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11-30-2013, 07:58 AMTenkuFF14 needs an end game for solo players (suggestions included)
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11-30-2013, 08:07 AMWobi
I dunno, I heard something about an update with new content on say December 17th-ish. But that could have just been a wild flight of fancy on my part.
Truthfully that is the fickle nature of some MMO players, they burn through new content then pretty much go dark between patches. These people also tend to care only about gearing their own character and not helping others in the FC/LS and better the shell as a whole.
As for the others, well it's the holiday season and families, long hours at retail jobs and parties/events tend to get in the way of logging on for extended periods. Your best bet is to sit tight for a bit longer.
Also I'm fairly certain the are aiming to avoid open world NM's everywhere and the trouble that tends to cause, not to mention they would have to change loot distribution entirely for those NM's. -
11-30-2013, 08:15 AMTenkuThe 2.1 update on December 17th is more instance grinding and no open world content. Actually, I'm the leader of an FC and we spend a lot of time trying to help other people because we're all at the weekly Coil stage. I literally dedicate at least 2 to 3 nights a week shouting to see if anybody needs help with Titan HM to combat the sellers. I'm having a difficult time keeping my teammates active because there's nothing else for them to do except wait for Coil. We did not rush through the content. We took our sweet time, but the game is just too incredibly easy and so fast to level up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wobi
It took me 2 days at most (not full days) to get each of my DoW/DoM classes from 30 to 50. It took me 4 days at most to get each of my DoH classes to 50.
As for the open world NM's everywhere comment; they can easily avoid that. Why not make normal monsters drop unique seals. Collect enough of the unique seals and you can spawn an NM that works like the leves where only you can attack. This game is lacking rare items that are WORTH obtaining through solo play like in Final Fantasy 11, Ragnarok Online, Lineage 2. Basically, all these newer MMO and WOW clones lack substance. Final Fantasy 14 is doing great and is wonderful up to a point, but the life span of this game is so short between content updates that I'm afraid subscriptions will drop fast. -
11-30-2013, 08:22 AMBorfin
Oh don't worry, daily quests are coming.
Then you can experience the joy that is running daily after daily after daily to get gear!
PERSONAL GROWTH.
(On a side note, WELCOME TO MMOs!) -
11-30-2013, 08:37 AMWobiYes but your topic does not fall in line with that, if your FC is bleeding players then adding solo content will not help the matter. It just gives those that do stick around more to do, more group content will be needed to keep people around for fun/camaraderie/etc. They are also very aware this content update has dropped later than they planned but they didn't expect to overhaul server architecture and the like when the game launched so things were pushed back. If you've kept up with the live letters and dev blogs they plan to roll them out on a shorter time frame to keep up with people who are clearing all the content.Quote:
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If we have to wait a bit for the content they produce to work and be balanced, then so be it. Tis better that they put out a decent product then rush out something half-done like 1.0 was at the start. -
11-30-2013, 08:40 AMyukikaze_yanagi
endgame and solo are two word i don't wanna ear together
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11-30-2013, 08:40 AMBabydollThis this so much this!!! Sigh, it seems like we get no response to the communities request for open world end game content...very sad. I hope someday we at least get fraction NM leves back :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenku
Yeah..the whole point of MMO is to play with others, hence the massive multiplayer online aspect of it. We still have solo RPG for those who wanna play alone. >.<Quote:
Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi
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11-30-2013, 08:40 AMTenkuOh god, I hate dailies. I just wish I can tackle bosses solo that has like an extremely rare chance to drop enhancement items. Maybe a rare Materia that has a 5% chance of casting Ultima or something. Have any of you ever played Ragnarok Online? If you have, you'd understand what I mean. Not everybody was skilled enough to solo bosses, but it was possible. Most people would party up to kill the open world bosses, but very skillful players are able to solo them. That's something I really miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Borfin
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11-30-2013, 08:42 AMVactus
You did all that work in a short amount of time... You're literally a player with too much time on their hand and no modern mmo is going to keep you long.
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11-30-2013, 08:43 AMWolf_Gang
You're always going to consume more content faster than they can provide.
Solo or Group doesn't change it.
The only advice I can give is to play less. I put in about 10 hours a week and I'm perfectly content with that. -
11-30-2013, 08:43 AMDoo
This game needs wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more end game group content first. FCS are pretty much chatrooms.
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11-30-2013, 08:45 AMTenkuThe thing is, not everyone can always be on at the same time with each other. Some people just want to do their own things sometimes because we already spend so much time together doing instances. As an FC leader, I put in so much effort and energy to organize events and make sure everyone gets on for Coil that I just want to be able to solo sometimes and not deal with others. The only games I play are MMOs unless a new Final Fantasy console game is out. (I'm waiting for Final Fantasy 15) I also only stick to one MMO because I'm ultra competitive and want to the best I can be in the game I play. (I do the same thing at work)Quote:
Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi
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11-30-2013, 08:45 AMWobiHow do you balance it for different classes? Not every class plays equally and you design bosses for solo content that cannot be solo'd by all classes then people will cry foul. For a PLD most solo bosses would be trivial and any content worth doing should be difficult. This game was built around team play however, it would be better to have a pop item system and limit it to a four man team to take down the monster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenku
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11-30-2013, 08:48 AMTenkuI'm fine with 4 man content like that too. Also, there's no such thing as balance for different classes when anybody can level any class on their character at any time. They can easily make certain bosses have certain properties that only certain jobs can kill. For example, undead boss that can only be killed using holy or heals.Quote:
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-tanked-as-WHM -
11-30-2013, 08:50 AMBabydollYeah LOL my FC mostly hangs out in Team Speak and just talks about random crap...and how there is no end game group content. There isn't enough open world content...Quote:
Originally Posted by Doo
I miss being able to go duo or trio a really though NM or "named" whatever you wanna call it, that normally takes an alliance to do. What happened to those days :( Now everything is carebear easy mode...ugh -
11-30-2013, 08:56 AMDooI miss having a ton of group content to do. Right now it's trying to setup enough for coil raids (can you even call them raids? All you do is just kill bosses pretty much) and running WP with your fc. That's pretty much it. Crafting is solo and boring to me and Fate-zerging even when you're in a group, it feels like solo play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babydoll
I miss fighting big ol hnms dragons with the guild, dynamis, xp party, bcnm party, coffer key party, af quest party, nation mission party, avatar party, Lion ROZ party, etc THE PARTY NEVER ENDS!
p.s Awesome cosplays :) -
11-30-2013, 09:01 AMTenkuYes please and solo content on top of that! We want a complete game full of substance so that we can always work on improving our characters without having to wait a whole week!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doo
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11-30-2013, 09:40 AMSchwerpunktMMORPG =/= Required Multiplayer/Coop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babydoll
Sometimes people just want to do things by themselves. Other times, they want to play with others. Other times still, they may want to just help people out, but not take on the responsibility that comes with joining a group/FC/static/etc..
Working together shouldn't be forced, it should be encouraged. Things would be so much better if that were the case. -
11-30-2013, 01:40 PMMieyCyruuuus
no.
go play singleplayer games