Change Level Sync

I'm extremely disappointed with the level sync system at this current point in time, and no I'm not talking about ilevels. I don't know how many of you have played guild wars 2 but essentially A realm reborn copy pasted guild wars 2 level sync system into this game except with a few changes that are for the worst.

Now when you level sync your character in a dungeon or fate it brings you down to the level of the content so that you can replay content even though you are level 50 which I think is a great idea, I enjoyed it in guild wars but not so much here.

In guild wars 2 everything is level sync'd (but that's not really the point) the point is despite being level sync they only reduce your level and stats to a certain extent. They leave you skills and traits alone.

So if you max out in guild wars 2 then go back to a starter area you will be scaled down but keep your skills and trait points.

Fast forward to our game and when you sync you lose all your skills you have obtained as well as our version of a trait system.

I don't know about you but that is a huge draw back for me. I main a scholar and when I get my new scholar ability and I'm doing main story line quests that are 10 levels behind me and have to enter a dungeon I auto lose all those skills.

I hate it in the purest form of hate possible. Your taking away what people earned and it makes content less fun to play. I have no reason to go back to old maps or dungeons to play content because I detest our current sync system.

And before people start QQ'ing about having skills will make you OP, maybe you should look at people who have ilevel 95 gear can face roll content without gear so that isn't a excuse.

Also Guildwars 2 can have traits and skills and their content is still challenging. Keeping skills and traits won't destroy a dungeon it will make it funner and allow people to actually use the skills they have obtained.

That's my rant I suppose, thanks for reading.

Scholars have it the best since they don't lose Eos which is probably their best ability.
Everyone else losses everything.

Maybe you shouldn't have over-leveled so much.

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

Maybe you shouldn't have over-leveled so much.

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That's really not the point, what if you wanna to replay low level content like dungeon/fates it takes away from the fun to lose all your abilities.

Or it's like in FFXI when they added level sync. Sync down to 20 from 40? You lost a lot of skills. This wasn't made by GW2 makers, but S-E. Almost identical to level sync in FFXI, which I loved btw.

I stopped reading at "toon".

FFXI had it first, it was awesome then and it worked exactly like it does here. Don't know what you are all about.

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Originally Posted by ashikenshin

FFXI had it first, it was awesome then and it worked exactly like it does here. Don't know what you are all about.

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I've never played FFXI so I wouldn't know that they had it first, if that is the case then it's my bad since I've only seen this system before in guildwars. But besides that I still think the way the system operates is bad. If you like it from playing previous game fantastic, I'm happy for you.

I still think it's a bad way to run it.

Not entirely sure what's the problem of losing your high level skills when you sync-down.

If anything they need to change the fact that other classes can use any level cross-class skill at lower levels while the actual class loses them.

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

Not entirely sure what's the problem of losing your high level skills when you sync-down.

If anything they need to change the fact that other classes can use any level cross-class skill at lower leves while the actual class loses them.

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I already said it takes away from the class and fun of the game (at least for me). I leveled up to get those skills and I think I should still be able to use them when level sync'd like in other games.

It would definitely create problems.

If a level 50 PLD sync down to Sastasha, for example, without taking away the skills, then I would not only have Rage of Halone, but also Sword Oath and Shield Oath, Circle of Scorn and Spirits Within. I think it's not too much of an exaggeration to say my enmity ability would be double that of a level 17 Gladiator.

Now consider if a synced DD player gets in Sastasha with a level 17 Gladiator. There would probably be no way the Gladiator can hold aggro on all the enemies. People will be bringing level 50 tactics into a level 15 dungeon, effectively forcing someone who may very well be tackling the holy trinity tank-heal-dd concept for the first time in their lives to instantly adjust to end-game fights.

Imagine a first time tank having to tank against a SMN who spreads DoTs all over. Bards and Dragoons who AoE the heck out of each pack of trash. And having to deal with all that using only half the toolset.

I would rather that things be kept as is, but with each patch add hard modes of each of the leveling dungeons tuned for end-game skill sets.

I think it's fine as is, cept I would like it to be possible to sync a party without having to be in a fate or dungeon. Might give us some options when leveling with friends etc.

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Originally Posted by Battlewrench

I think it's fine as is, cept I would like it to be possible to sync a party without having to be in a fate or dungeon. Might give us some options when leveling with friends etc.

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This is something I wish they kept from FFXI. Loved friends being able to sync to me for dunes grinds.

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Originally Posted by Zfz

It would definitely create problems.

Imagine a first time tank having to tank against a SMN who spreads DoTs all over. Bards and Dragoons who AoE the heck out of each pack of trash. And having to deal with all that using only half the toolset.

I would rather that things be kept as is, but with each patch add hard modes of each of the leveling dungeons tuned for end-game skill sets.

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Good point, I can't really disagree with what you said here, But I still think even so it wouldn't be game breaking, at the very least it would be nice to still be able to keep your skills for fates. Dungeons I can see your point, and with the addition of HM's it would make sense to leave it.

actually i like this better more, more balance for dungeon runs.

I kinda agree. When i help a friend in a dungeon as a black mage i die inside when i lose astral/umbral III and firestarter

Square is the only company I have seen that can take a great idea, Mentoring/level Sync among others and make them suck. Mentoring as seen in Eq2 and most other games simply reduces your stats/level/skill damage or heal amount. This is how it should be. There is no logical reason that I should suddenly forget what I have learned. Do I travel back in time when I go to Sastasha as a lvl 50? Do these lower level dungeons alter my memories? It is silly and it deters me from going into these dungeons as you almost have to relearn your class/job.

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